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::* IHE 2014 Publication Schedule [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AikOXWdaC-LkdEkzckVTMktZenRkdWJBN1dsZHJpbnc&authkey=CPq93OUP&hl=en_US%23gid%3D6#gid=6] | ::* IHE 2014 Publication Schedule [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AikOXWdaC-LkdEkzckVTMktZenRkdWJBN1dsZHJpbnc&authkey=CPq93OUP&hl=en_US%23gid%3D6#gid=6] | ||
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:* 11:00 > Break (15 minutes) | :* 11:00 > Break (15 minutes) | ||
:* 11:15 > FDA UDI and how to integrate into PCD messages (Monroe P) | :* 11:15 > FDA UDI and how to integrate into PCD messages (Monroe P) | ||
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::* ACM next steps | ::* ACM next steps | ||
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+ | ::- expansion to other domains, advisories (Monroe P) | ||
::* PCIM and EMR DB storage confirmation (Todd C/Chris C) | ::* PCIM and EMR DB storage confirmation (Todd C/Chris C) | ||
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Revision as of 09:14, 5 October 2013
Page is a Work in Process at this time
Meeting Objectives
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- These face-to-face meetings have a number of objectives depending on the committees involved:
- Planning Committee: Review, plan and initiate PCD activities; contribute to planning of the HIMSS Interoperability Showcase and other Showcases and events; recruit vendors and users.
- Technical Committee: Review and adopt brief profile proposals; contribute to Connectathon test tools, tests, and procedures.
Location & General Schedule
- Location:
- Philips IntelliSpace Event Management
- 8051 Congress Ave
- Suite 400 (fourth floor)
- Boca Raton, FL 33487
- Tel: 561.886.3108
- Meeting in the Training Room
- Monroe suggests flying into/out of Fort Lauderdale (FLL); the alternative is Palm Beach International (PBI).
- Hilton Garden Inn
- 8201 Congress Avenue
- Boca Raton, FL 33487
- 561-988-6110
- Reservations On Line Look for Email or Contact Manny
- Reserve by Sept. 21 for the special rate.
- Dates - October 8 - 11, 2013
- Daily Schedule - Placeholder
- 08:00 - 08:30 Meet at Philips
- Meetings will start promptly at 08:30 Eastern on Tues, Wed, & Fri.
- Pump Group Meeting will start promptly at 08:15 Eastern on Thurs.
- 08:00 - 08:30 Meet at Philips
- 08:30 - 10:30 Session #1
- 11:00 - 12:30 Session #2
- 12:30 - 13:30 Lunch (location to be announced)
- 13:30 - 15:00 Session #3
- 15:30 - 17:00 Session #4
- Friday the meetings will end close to noon
Agenda Suggestions
Please submit suggestions for agenda topics here or through emails to the committee co-chairs.
- - MSH-5: Change from RE to R (Monroe)
- - Standards Coordination (Paul, 30 min.)
- - North American Connectathon
- o Update on tests.
- o Update on NIST tools.
- o Update on registration
- - HIMSS14 Interoperability Showcase Early Th pm
- - Connectathon Celina
- - Certification Update Late Th PM
- - AAMI Exhibit Hall Demo
- - Brief Profile Proposal Ballot and the Proposals; Detailed Proposal Ballot
- - FDA UDI ruling and IHE impacts (UDI in PCD messages? MEM?)
From Fall 2012 F2F:
- - NIST Test Tool Tutorial Scheduled (Garguilo)
- - Rosetta for Events and Alarms and which are associated with parameters(Schluter, Rhoads, Pattillo)
- - More consistent time for devices (Rhoads, Garguilo, Schluter)
- - WCM harmonization?
- - Does the roadmap need revision? How are we doing on the roadmap?
- - Infusion pump specialization
- - Physiological monitor specialization
- - Ventilator specialization
- - Discussion on "visionary stuff" - what next big things should be on the roadmap?
- - MDC Codes: Proposed by Terry Bettis, Others (Paul Schluter)
From the PC Action Items PCD Planning Committee Action Items:
- 71. Recruit Clinicians
- 78. Stakeholder Survey
From the TC Action Items: PCD Technical Committee Action Items:
- 82. PCD OIDs & URNs (Also see # 153)
- 93. Managing Document Versions
- 109. Messages Without Patient Demographics
- 110. WCM Attributes
- 117. IDCO Time Stamp WP
- 118. Implementation Guide
- 123. IPEC Trigger Event and MDCx terms
- 126. RTM/RTMMS: Address Missing Descriptions
- 132. Conformance Profiles (XML)
- 135. ACM Recruiting
- 136. WCM Parameter List
- 137. PIV: User Approval to Initiate Infusion
- 140. Assemble the Baseline Set of Standards for Easy Reference
- 141. Create Matrix Matching Profiles to Standards
- 143. Describe HL7 Version Implications
- 146. VA Participation in Connectathon, Showcase
- 147. Edit IPEC
- 148. Document ACM in an Implementation Guide
- 150. Seek null flavors in HL7 2.9
- 151. Supportive Testing
- 152. Improve FTP Site
- 153. OID Concept Definition (Also see #82)
- 155. Propose Automating Connectathon Documentation
- 157. POI Issues
- 158. POI CPs
- 159. POI Rosetta Terms
- 160. CPs from F2F: Discuss and Ballot
- 161. Connectathon Loss of Connectivity Test
- 162. Data Capture Indicator
- 163. Error Codes
- 164. Increase Testing Rigor
- 165. Traceability of NIST test tool and the TF/Profile
- 166. Enhancing Pre-Connectathon Testing
- 167. Versioning and Archiving
- 168. Documentation and Testing of Additional Risks
- 169. Improving Integration Statements
- 170. Convert IPEC to EC
Attachments / Materials
Documents related to the meeting when available will be found at ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/FaceToFaceMeetings/2013-October-Boca_Raton-F2F/ unless otherwise noted. Documents are available without a password.
PCD Schedule/Deadline Information: http://tinyurl.com/PCD-Publication-Deadlines, Schedule/Deadlines: Patient Care Device and Domain Milestones
PCD PC Action Items PCD Planning Committee Action Items. Significant changes, other than dates, will be in bold.
PCD TC Action Items PCD Technical Committee Action Items. Significant changes, other than dates, will be in bold.
Detailed Schedule & Agenda
Tuesday
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Date Hours Committees Topics
Tuesday Morning 2013 October 8
08:30 - 12:30 PCD Planning Committee (PC) - 08:30 > Introduction
- - Greeting & Introductions (20 minutes)
- - Review & Approve PC Agenda (10 minutes)
- - IHE IP Management Process (5 minutes)
- - Review Discussion Summary Last PC Meeting PC&TC Oct. 10, 2013 PCD PC&TC 2013-10-02 Webex
- 09:00 > Review Current PCD Program (statuses only, details during TC sessions):
- - ACM (Monroe P)
- - DEC (updated PCD TF) (John R)
- - IDCO
- - PIV (Jeff R)
- - IPEC (Todd C)
- - EC (John R)
- - WCM (Ken F)
- - OMS (Ken F)
- - ADQ
- - PCIM (Todd C)
- - MEM DMC (Monroe P)
- - MEM LS (Monroe P)
- 10:30 > Specializations (statuses only, details during TC sessions):
- - Pulse Oximetry (Todd C)
- - Pump (Jeff R)
- - Physio mon (John R)
- - Vent (Paul Schluter)
- 11:00 > Integration Statement (Monroe P)
- 11:15 > Commercial Products (Manny F)
- 11:30 > Break (15 minutes)
- 11:45 > Cybersecurity update (Axel W)
- 12:30 LUNCH
Tuesday Afternoon 2013 April 16
13:30 - 17:00 PCD Planning Committee (PC) - 13:30 > Cycle 9 Workitems
- - MEM DMC (Monroe P)
- - MEM LS (Monroe P)
- 14:30 > AAMI Exhibit hall demo (Manny F)
- 15:15 > Break (15 minutes)
- 15:30 > Review PC action items (Monre P)
- 16:30 > PCD involvement
- - IHE memberships
- - Clinicians (Monroe P/Manny F)
- - ACM AC actors (Monroe P)
- - Stakeholder survey (Manny F)
- 17:00 > Adjourn
Wednesday
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Date Hours Committees Topics
Wednesday Morning 2013-10-09
08:30 - 12:30 Joint PCD Planning and Technical Committees - 08:30 > IHE IP Management Process
- 08:35 > Introductions and Agenda Review
- 08:45 > Location, Dates of the PCD 2014 Spring F2F
- 09:00 > Review IHE Milestones from now until end of HIMSS Showcase
- PCD Key Dates (Cycle 9)
- IHE 2014 Publication Schedule [1]
- 09:15 > Review PCD Calendar - visionary stuff
- 10:30 > Standards coordination (Paul Schluter)
- 11:00 > Break (15 minutes)
- 11:15 > FDA UDI and how to integrate into PCD messages (Monroe P)
- October PC, TC Meeting Schedule (Manny F)
- 12:15 > Adjourn Planning Committee
- 12:30 > LUNCH
Wednesday Afternoon 2013-04-17
13:30 - 17:00 PCD Technical Committee (TC) - IHE IP Management Process
- TC Welcome and Agenda Review (Jeff M)(10 mins)
- 13:30 Review Discussion Summary Last TC Meeting
- - Review Discussion Summary Last PC Meeting PC&TC Oct. 10, 2013 PCD PC&TC 2013-10-02 Webex
- 13:45 Administrative issues (?)
- 14:00 CP Practices (?)
- 14:15 2014 NA Connectathon (PCD activities) (Manny F/Paul Sherman)
- Update on tests
- Update on NIST tools
- Update on registration
- Supportive Testing
- Pre-Connectathon testing (FYI - no Showcase dress rehearsal)
- Loss of connectivity test
- VA participation
- 15:15 Break (15 minutes)
- 15:30 Profile revisioning
- 16:00 Review of ongoing work
- ACM next steps
- - TF CP for values, NIST tool updates, ACM/RTM alerts & events worksheet,
- - expansion to other domains, advisories (Monroe P)
- PCIM and EMR DB storage confirmation (Todd C/Chris C)
- ADQ
- Pulse Oximetry (Todd C)
- WCM (Ken F)
- OME (Ken F)
- MEM DMC (Whitepaper, call for sample messages, and Profile) (Monroe P)
- MEM LS (Whitepaper. call for sample messages, and Profile) (Monroe P)
- 18:00 Adjourn (or later as needed)
Thursday
Date Hours Committees Topics Thursday Morning 2013-10-10
08:15 - 12:30 Pump WG meeting - 8:15 IHE IP Management Process
- 8:30 - Pump WG meeting (see details from Jeff R)
- 12:30 Lunch
Thursday Afternoon 2013-10-10
13:30 - 17:00 PCD Technical Committee (TC) - IHE IP Management Process
- 13:30 PCD Events
- HIMSS and Showcase (Sandy V)
- NA Connnectathon 14&15 (Celina R)
- IHE-USA/ICSA Labs Certification Testing (Vinny S)
- 15:15 Break (15 minutes)
- 15:30 Location, Dates of the PCD 2014 Spring F2F
- 16:00 MSH-5 and Connectathon (Monroe P)
Friday
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Date Hours Committees Topics
Friday Morning 2013-10-11
08:30 - 12:30 PCD Technical Committee (TC) Placeholder - 08:30 IHE IP Management Process
- 08:45 More consistent time (Paul Schluter)
- 09:15 WCM harmoniization (Paul Schluter)
- 09:45 MDC Codes: Proposed by Terry Bettis, Others (Paul Schluter)
- 10:30 Seek null flavors in HL7 2.9 (John R)
- 11:00 Break (15 minutes)
- 11:15 Improve IHE sites (WWW, Wiki, FTP)
- 11:30 Messages without patient demographics (John R)
Friday Afternoon 2013-10-11
13:30 - 15:00 PCD Technical Committee (TC)
- Note: Additional evening working sessions may be scheduled as needed.
- Note: Time slot TBD: IDCO
Webex Support
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All F2F Webex Meetings
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PCD F2F Tuesday Oct 8 Morning
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 8 Morning
- Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013
- Time: 7:15 am, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 923 504 819
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PCD F2F Tuesday Oct 8 Afternoon
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 8 Afternoon
- Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013
- Time: 12:00 pm, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 927 332 646
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PCD F2F Wednesday Oct 9 Morning
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 9 Morning
- LDate: Wednesday, October 9, 2013
- Time: 7:15 am, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 922 133 394
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PCD F2F Wednesday Oct 9 Afternoon
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 9 Afternoon
- Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013
- Time: 12:00 pm, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 922 359 486
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PCD F2F Thursday Oct 10 Morning
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 10 Morning
- Date: Thursday, October 10, 2013
- Time: 7:15 am, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 926 967 589
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PCD F2F Thursday Oct 10 Afternoon
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 10 Afternoon
- Date: Thursday, October 10, 2013
- Time: 12:00 pm, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 923 448 154
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PCD F2F Friday Oct 11 Morning
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 11 Morning
- Date: Friday, October 11, 2013
- Time: 7:15 am, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 926 328 647
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PCD F2F Friday Oct 11 Afternoon
- Topic: PCD F2F Oct 11 Afternoon
- Date: Friday, October 11, 2013
- Time: 12:00 pm, Central Daylight Time (Chicago, GMT-05:00)
- Meeting Number: 920 002 916
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Participants
PC Tuesday
Joint PC, TC Wednesday Morning
TC Wednesday Afternoon
TC Thursday
TC Friday
Discussion
Discussion Summaries do not require formal approval, while minutes of meetings where votes are taken do. Participants are encouraged to review and bring up significant issues with discussion summaries of previous meetings. Votes will be taken to approve meetings where votes took place; these may be email ballots.
Monday
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Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved Placeholder
Action(s):
2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - - Accepted: Planning Committee November 14 Placeholder
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
- Standards CoordinationStatus/Discussion:
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
4 ___ Status/Discussion: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_Proposals_Cycle_8#Cycle_8_WorkItem_Candidates
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
Tuesday Morning
Placeholder
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved Placeholder
Action(s):
2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - - Accepted: Planning Committee November 14 Placeholder
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
- Standards CoordinationStatus/Discussion:
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
4 ___ Status/Discussion: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_Proposals_Cycle_8#Cycle_8_WorkItem_Candidates
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
Tuesday Afternoon
Placeholder
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved Placeholder
Action(s):
2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - - Accepted: Planning Committee November 14 Placeholder
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
- Standards CoordinationStatus/Discussion:
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
4 ___ Status/Discussion: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_Proposals_Cycle_8#Cycle_8_WorkItem_Candidates
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
Wednesday
Placeholder
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved Placeholder
Action(s):
2 ____________
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - -
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion:
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
4 ___ Status/Discussion: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_Proposals_Cycle_8#Cycle_8_WorkItem_Candidates
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
Thursday
Placeholder
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved Placeholder
Action(s):
2 ____________
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - -
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion:
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
4 ___ Status/Discussion: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_Proposals_Cycle_8#Cycle_8_WorkItem_Candidates
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Action(s):
Friday
Placeholder
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved Placeholder
Action(s):
2 ____________
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - -
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion:
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
4 ___ Status/Discussion: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_Proposals_Cycle_8#Cycle_8_WorkItem_Candidates
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Action(s):
Action Items - PC
The Action Items that follow and approved in subsequent committee meetings will be added to the committee Action Item page.
Action Items - TC and WGs
The Action Items that follow and approved in subsequent committee meetings will be added to the committee Action Item page.
Next Meetings
Joint Planning and Technical Committee: PC and TC __ PCD PC&TC 2013-04-24 Webex
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TC _____
PC _______