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:3 TC121/SC4 Meeting Update (Dain)
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:4 Rosetta Update Report (Schluter) '''''[ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx New Release posted (3f 2009.06.14)]'''''  [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/HRosetta.3f.doc Document]  [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/VCV_data_and_graph_for_ROSETTA.xls Excel Tables]
:4 Rosetta Update Report (Schluter) '''''[ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx New Release posted (3f 2009.06.14)]'''''  [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/HRosetta.3f.doc Document]  [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/VCV_data_and_graph_for_ROSETTA.xls Excel Tables]
:5 Review proposed [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/VCV_data_and_graph_for_ROSETTA_r2.xls template for breath mode example] (Isaza)
:5 Review proposed Template for pamphlet(Isaza): [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/VCV_data_and_graph_for_ROSETTA_2.xls Example (v2)]
 
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:6 Agenda for Next Meeting


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:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx Meeting Attachments are on the IHE PCD FTP site...]
:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx Meeting Attachments are on the IHE PCD FTP site...]


== Minutes ==
== Discussion Notes ==
 
=== Participants ===


:'''Chair/Host:'''  Todd Cooper (Breakthrough Solutions Foundry)
:'''Chair/Host:'''  Todd Cooper (Breakthrough Solutions Foundry)


: ''TBD''
: Maria Cherkaoui (NIST), Steven Dain (ISO TC121/SC4), Robert Flanders (GE), Fernando Isaza (Philips/Respironics), Ken Marks (GE), John Rhoads (Philips), Paul Schluter (GE)
 
=== Discussion ===




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| '''Status/Discussion:'''
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'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
 
:* Agenda reviewed & approved without modification


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
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'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
:* [[PCD_RTM_2009-06-03_WebEx | 2009.06.03 Discussion Notes]] reviewed and approved


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
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| align="center" | 3
| align="center" | 3
| '''...''' <br>- TBD
| '''Rosetta Update''' <br>- Schluter
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* Paul provided an overview of the updated Rosetta work items that he published for review earlier in the day.
:* A set of 40 different rules were applied to correct various rules (e.g.,, deleting units that have been voted off, etc.)  All rules are documented in another spreadsheet in the Excel spreadsheet.
:* See [[PCD_TC_2009-06-17_Webex#Discussion | related notes from previous TC meeting]]
:* Major Review next week in the RTM discussion
:* (Dain) Is there a electro physiology group that specifies these MDC_EEG_PWG_SPEC_TOT?  Rhoads:  Yes, American Clinical Neurophysiology Society
:* Question:  How to handle the <Rules> going forward?  In NIST DB tool? (probably not)  The typical will be to version against last release.  Might have a “rules checking capability”, with rules tied for getting from Ver X to Ver Y
:* Discussion re. MDC_VOL_MINUTE_ & UOM … flow or volume?!
:* Given the "minute volume" UOM discussion, Paul may add an "urgency" or priority column, to ensure major issues are addressed first.


'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
 
:* '''ACTION:'''  (Group) Review tables, esp. vent related terms and rules - ''provide written comments''
:* '''ACTION:'''  (Cooper/Rhoads) Communicate comment process and schedule to the group.
|-
|-
| align="center" | 4
| align="center" | 4
| '''...''' <br>- TBD
| '''TC121 Sweden Meetings Update''' <br>- Dain
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* Neither Dr. Dain nor Fernando Isaza were able to attend the ISO TC121 meetings last week.


'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
:* '''ACTION:'''  (Dain) The meeting notes / summary will be forwarded to the group once received by Dr. Dain - typically within a month of the meeting.


|-
|-
| align="center" | 5
| align="center" | 5
| '''Waveform Template Example Review''' <br>- Isaza
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* Fernando reviewed the [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090617_WebEx/VCV_data_and_graph_for_ROSETTA_2.xls breath waveform template Excel file] for the proposed pamphlet.
:* Started with the "VCV Traces for Rosetta" spreadsheet, then Flow Volume, Pressure-Volume graphs.
This was followed by a general discussion / review:
:* P/V Graph:  Ken Marks noted that typically the X axis is Volume & pressure on Y axis, etc. … should use “standard” way of looking at P/V loops; but Steven noted that this is a North American “standard” - it is displayed as shown here in other regions.
:* Paul:  could have two presentations, both formats, but same information
:* 3-graphs (vs. 1) – printing in black & white may drive it one way or the other…(see cc_loops_book_en.pdf page 13); are we constrained to that with IHE publications ?
:* Could also use “layers” to show various information (e.g., Visio);  Dain – can import layers from Visio into Acrobat PDF … can you use the normal Reader to view different overlays.
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Action(s):'''
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| '''Next Meeting''' <br>- Chair
| '''Next Meeting''' <br>- Chair
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
:* Next meeting '''''''TBD 2009-xx-xx Vent WebEx Session'''''''
:* Next meeting [[PCD_RTM_2009-07-01_WebEx | 2009-07-01 Vent WebEx Session]]


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
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=== Next Meeting ===
=== Next Meeting ===
:''TBD 2009-xx-xx Vent WebEx Session''
:''[[PCD_RTM_2009-07-01_WebEx | 2009-07-01 Vent WebEx Session]]''




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Latest revision as of 14:56, 17 May 2010

(Vent TG Main Page)

Meeting Purpose

IHE PCD Rosetta Terminology Mapping (RTM) Ventilator Task Group regular discussion meeting. See the Proposed Agenda below for specific topics.

WebEx Information

Topic: IHE PCD RTM Vent TG

Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009

Time: 12:00 pm, Eastern Time (GMT -05:00, New York)

Duration: 120 Minutes


Note: Specific web & phone informaiton will be provided via e-mail to group members.

Contact Manny Furst for more information.

Proposed Agenda

1 Review & Approve Agenda
2 Review 2009.06.03 Discussion Notes
3 TC121/SC4 Meeting Update (Dain)
4 Rosetta Update Report (Schluter) New Release posted (3f 2009.06.14) Document Excel Tables
5 Review proposed Template for pamphlet(Isaza): Example (v2)
6 Agenda for Next Meeting

Attachments / Materials

Discussion Notes

Chair/Host: Todd Cooper (Breakthrough Solutions Foundry)
Maria Cherkaoui (NIST), Steven Dain (ISO TC121/SC4), Robert Flanders (GE), Fernando Isaza (Philips/Respironics), Ken Marks (GE), John Rhoads (Philips), Paul Schluter (GE)


Item Topic Discussion
1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- Chair
Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues:

  • Agenda reviewed & approved without modification

Action(s):

2 Discussion Summary Review
- Chair
Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

3 Rosetta Update
- Schluter
Status/Discussion:
  • Paul provided an overview of the updated Rosetta work items that he published for review earlier in the day.
  • A set of 40 different rules were applied to correct various rules (e.g.,, deleting units that have been voted off, etc.) All rules are documented in another spreadsheet in the Excel spreadsheet.
  • See related notes from previous TC meeting
  • Major Review next week in the RTM discussion
  • (Dain) Is there a electro physiology group that specifies these MDC_EEG_PWG_SPEC_TOT? Rhoads: Yes, American Clinical Neurophysiology Society
  • Question: How to handle the <Rules> going forward? In NIST DB tool? (probably not) The typical will be to version against last release. Might have a “rules checking capability”, with rules tied for getting from Ver X to Ver Y
  • Discussion re. MDC_VOL_MINUTE_ & UOM … flow or volume?!
  • Given the "minute volume" UOM discussion, Paul may add an "urgency" or priority column, to ensure major issues are addressed first.

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

  • ACTION: (Group) Review tables, esp. vent related terms and rules - provide written comments
  • ACTION: (Cooper/Rhoads) Communicate comment process and schedule to the group.
4 TC121 Sweden Meetings Update
- Dain
Status/Discussion:
  • Neither Dr. Dain nor Fernando Isaza were able to attend the ISO TC121 meetings last week.

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

  • ACTION: (Dain) The meeting notes / summary will be forwarded to the group once received by Dr. Dain - typically within a month of the meeting.
5 Waveform Template Example Review
- Isaza
Status/Discussion:
  • Fernando reviewed the breath waveform template Excel file for the proposed pamphlet.
  • Started with the "VCV Traces for Rosetta" spreadsheet, then Flow Volume, Pressure-Volume graphs.

This was followed by a general discussion / review:

  • P/V Graph: Ken Marks noted that typically the X axis is Volume & pressure on Y axis, etc. … should use “standard” way of looking at P/V loops; but Steven noted that this is a North American “standard” - it is displayed as shown here in other regions.
  • Paul: could have two presentations, both formats, but same information
  • 3-graphs (vs. 1) – printing in black & white may drive it one way or the other…(see cc_loops_book_en.pdf page 13); are we constrained to that with IHE publications ?
  • Could also use “layers” to show various information (e.g., Visio); Dain – can import layers from Visio into Acrobat PDF … can you use the normal Reader to view different overlays.

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

6 Next Meeting
- Chair
Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

Next Meeting

2009-07-01 Vent WebEx Session



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