EduWG Minutes 2015-04-13
Preliminary!!!! Copy of Agenda
Will be used to capture the discussion during the call
9am Welcome
- Participants and introduction round
- Stèphane Spahni (IHE user, university hospital, pharmacy expert, Switzerland)
- Rene Spronk (training provider, IHE expert, Netherlands)
- Stefan Sauermann (training provider, IHE expert, Austria)
Status: What has happened so far
See Google drive
Review of ICP drafts
- CP IHE Foundation Level [1], CP IHE Document Sharing [2]
- What are the "most important" IHE profiles?
- See Ranking list of profiles by CAT testing frequency
- The "Top 20" are coloured dark green
- Ranks 21-30 are coloured light green
- The first 30 profiles (top 20%) may be considered to be "important"
- There are regional differences!
- Decision: There are 3 categories:
- the profiles you must be able to discuss actors and transactions, on Vol 1 level
- Rank 1-20 on the "global" list of 143
- the profiles you only know a bit about, like what do they adress
- Rank 21-30 on the "global" list
- the profiles you can look up in IHE documents in case you need them.
- all the rest
- the profiles you must be able to discuss actors and transactions, on Vol 1 level
Methods for testing the skills
- A first list of exam questions has been collected
- It contains "open text" questions
- These may be published so that candidates can prepare for the exam
- It contains single choice questions
- These will be used for the exam
- They will therefore remain "secret"
- They may be published in the future, if there are so many that the sheer mass will assure a fair exam.
- It contains "open text" questions
- Discuss!!
- This method was sucessfully used in IHE related training in Vienna.
- Similar methods are used by others.
- Does this make sense?
- Decision:
- This method is a useful way to go forward
- the available list provides useful examples but definitely needs more work
Management Issues
- Which organisational structure is neccessary to design, implement and run the ICP scheme
- Business model
- HL7 has outsourced the actual remote testing to [3]
- the IHE board will need a recommendation on the exam charge
- (Anecdotal evidence is in the range of 100-400 US$)
- TODO: Find out what others charge for the exam and certification, with a size / scope similar to the ICP Foundation
- TODO: What is the cost for providing the exam?
- The IHE board will need an estimation of how many certifications are expected?
- Agreement: Professional / expert review of the exam questions is necessary
- this needs to be independent from those who develop the questions / take the exams
- The test must be reviewed to be:
- correct
- not too easy / too hard
- Agreement: Process for verifying the test
- have experts and non-experts take the test (IHE workgroup members, CAT monitors, )
- provide an incentive to them
- collect feedback from those experts
- have experts and non-experts take the test (IHE workgroup members, CAT monitors, )
- Agreement: We need an "exam committee"
- identifies areas for certifications (e.g. ICP Foundation and on the ICP Document Sharing)
- finds someome to write the exam questions
- these need some benefit (e.g being listed as "Official IHE training providers"?? Being the "exam provider"??)
- verifies the questions as described above
- gets approval from domain committe (if appropriate) and then the international board
- We need an exam provider
- TODO: How do others (e.g. HL7, DICOM, HIMSS) provide exams?
- Translations may be necessary.
- This may be something for GDC / regional / national deployment committes to organise