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** (Anecdotal evidence is in the range of 100-400 US$)
** (Anecdotal evidence is in the range of 100-400 US$)
** TODO: Find out what others charge for the exam and certification, with a size / scope similar to the ICP Foundation
** TODO: Find out what others charge for the exam and certification, with a size / scope similar to the ICP Foundation
** TODO: What is the cost for providing the exam?




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* Process for developing the exam
 
** collect questions
* Agreement: Process for verifying the test
** have experts take the test (IHE workgroup members, CAT monitors, )
** have experts and non-experts take the test (IHE workgroup members, CAT monitors, )
*** provide an incentive to them  
*** provide an incentive to them  
** collect feedback from those experts
** collect feedback from those experts


* Agreement: We need an "exam committee"
** identifies areas for certifications (e.g. ICP Foundation and on the ICP Document Sharing)
** finds someome to write the exam questions
*** these need some benefit (e.g being listed as "Official IHE training providers"?? Being the "exam provider"??)
** verifies the questions as described above
** gets approval from domain committe (if appropriate) and then the international board
* We need an exam provider
** TODO: How do others (e.g. HL7, DICOM, HIMSS) provide exams?
** Translations may be necessary.
*** This may be something for GDC / regional / national deployment committes to organise





Revision as of 10:35, 13 April 2015

Preliminary!!!! Copy of Agenda


Will be used to capture the discussion during the call


9am Welcome

  • Participants and introduction round
    • Stèphane Spahni (IHE user, university hospital, pharmacy expert, Switzerland)
    • Rene Spronk (training provider, IHE expert, Netherlands)
    • Stefan Sauermann (training provider, IHE expert, Austria)

Status: What has happened so far

See Google drive

Review of ICP drafts

  • CP IHE Foundation Level [1], CP IHE Document Sharing [2]
  • What are the "most important" IHE profiles?
  • Decision: There are 3 categories:
    • the profiles you must be able to discuss actors and transactions, on Vol 1 level
      • Rank 1-20 on the "global" list of 143
    • the profiles you only know a bit about, like what do they adress
      • Rank 21-30 on the "global" list
    • the profiles you can look up in IHE documents in case you need them.
      • all the rest

Methods for testing the skills

  • A first list of exam questions has been collected
    • It contains "open text" questions
      • These may be published so that candidates can prepare for the exam
    • It contains single choice questions
      • These will be used for the exam
      • They will therefore remain "secret"
      • They may be published in the future, if there are so many that the sheer mass will assure a fair exam.
  • Discuss!!
    • This method was sucessfully used in IHE related training in Vienna.
    • Similar methods are used by others.
    • Does this make sense?
  • Decision:
    • This method is a useful way to go forward
    • the available list provides useful examples but definitely needs more work

Management Issues

  • Which organisational structure is neccessary to design, implement and run the ICP scheme
  • Business model
  • HL7 has outsourced the actual remote testing to [3]


  • the IHE board will need a recommendation on the exam charge
    • (Anecdotal evidence is in the range of 100-400 US$)
    • TODO: Find out what others charge for the exam and certification, with a size / scope similar to the ICP Foundation
    • TODO: What is the cost for providing the exam?


  • The IHE board will need an estimation of how many certifications are expected?


  • Agreement: Professional / expert review of the exam questions is necessary
    • this needs to be independent from those who develop the questions / take the exams
    • The test must be reviewed to be:
      • correct
      • not too easy / too hard


  • Agreement: Process for verifying the test
    • have experts and non-experts take the test (IHE workgroup members, CAT monitors, )
      • provide an incentive to them
    • collect feedback from those experts


  • Agreement: We need an "exam committee"
    • identifies areas for certifications (e.g. ICP Foundation and on the ICP Document Sharing)
    • finds someome to write the exam questions
      • these need some benefit (e.g being listed as "Official IHE training providers"?? Being the "exam provider"??)
    • verifies the questions as described above
    • gets approval from domain committe (if appropriate) and then the international board


  • We need an exam provider
    • TODO: How do others (e.g. HL7, DICOM, HIMSS) provide exams?
    • Translations may be necessary.
      • This may be something for GDC / regional / national deployment committes to organise



Education_Workgroup

Global Deployment Coordination Committee