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== Agenda ==  
== Agenda ==  


'''Placeholder'''


:1. Agenda Approval
:1. Agenda Approval
:2. Review Discussion Summary [[PCD TC 2014-03-19 Webex]]  
:2. Review Discussion Summary [[PCD TC 2014-03-19 Webex]] and [[PCD PC&TC 2014-04-09 Webex]] and [[PCD PC&TC 2014 April 1-4 F2F]]
continued at Thursday morning
:3. Announcements
:3. Announcements
:4. Status: TF, Supplement, Other Documents
:4. Status: TF, Supplement, Other Documents
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:-  New items from F2F
:-  New items from F2F
:6. Additional Business
:6. Additional Business
:- AAMI showcase
:- New CPs  [http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_CP_grid  PCD CP Grid ]
:- IHE Columbia follow up
:- IHE Columbia follow up
:-  MEM DMC
::o MEM DMC/LS observation msg segs per PCD-01, event msg segs per PCD-04 – EMR proc impact
::o MEM DMC/LS single message contains single observation or single event, additional attrs ok
::o FDA battery status expectations (avoid mass migration home to hospital during disaster)
:7. Next Meetings:
:7. Next Meetings:
::- PC April 23 [[PCD PC 2014-04-23 Webex]]
::- PC April 23 [[PCD PC 2014-04-23 Webex]]
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:'''Chair:''' John Garguilo
:'''Chair:''' Monroe Patillo
: Chris Courville, Al Engelbert, Kurt Elliason, Barrett Franklin, John Garguilo, Tom Kowalczyk, Jon Lachman, Jeff McGeath, John Rhoads, Jeff Rinda, Paul Schluter, Paul Sherman, Greg Staudenmaier, Manny Furst, Lura Daussat, Carolyn Mahoney, Ken Pool, Didi Davis, Lisa Nelson
: Al Engelbert, Tom Kowalczyk, Jeff McGeath, John Rhoads, Paul Schluter, Paul Sherman, Greg Staudenmaier, Manny Furst.


== Discussion ==
== Discussion ==
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'''Decisions/Issues:'''  '''Placeholder'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''  '''Placeholder'''
: Agenda approved 
: 1. Agenda Approved with addition of Observations in MEM DMC: if there is an observation that changes over time, if there are PCD-01 and PCD-04 to EMRs and CMMSs, … He referred to the distinguishing trigger for PCD-04. If the same server is supporting both an EMR and CMMS then only MSH-21 for PCD-01. Monroe will ask the EMRs whether a new trigger is required – and R41 could be used if available (ORU^R41_^R40). The message structure would then be the same. This affects MEM DMC and EMRs only.
: 2. Paul Schluter added that start and end should be the same in different messages.
'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''


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| '''Status/Discussion:'''  
| '''Status/Discussion:'''  
: Discussion Summary of previous meeting(s):  
: Discussion Summary of previous meeting(s):  
:  Review Discussion Summary [[PCD PC&TC 2014-03-19 Webex]] - Accepted
:  Review Discussion Summary [[PCD TC 2014-03-19 Webex]]  
:- John G and Jeff McGeath will meet Friday, hope to have a rough F2F TC agenda.  Monroe and Greg are meeting as well
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
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:3. Announcements
:3. Announcements
:- IHE Columbia follow up after HIMSS14
::o  Will have a Webex on Tuesday before CN meeting.  Vladimir is interested in tutorials ands guidance on what's needed to get started.  If interested, Manny will send info, they could use volunteers.
:- F2F – Manny has menu list out, please review and give him info.  Also, Metro has line into downtown, costs a few dollars, drops you off 5 minutes from hotel.
:- Lynn sent post-CN email to participants; included CP template.  If you have those items for F2F please send them in for the agenda. 


:4. Status: TF, Supplement, Other Documents
:4. Status: TF, Supplement, Other Documents
:- DMC, LS – MEM LS – TI document on ftp site, ready for review (not ballot).  In process on DMC document.  Will review both this Friday at joint DMC/LS meeting.
:- Rosetta call today


:5. Action Item Review  (Last reviewed Jan - through 118, Feb - through 159, Aug - through 164, rest not reviewed)  
:5. Action Item Review  (Last reviewed Jan - through 118, Feb - through 159, Aug - through 164, rest not reviewed)  
:– Not reviewed, cochairs will prioritize for F2F.


:6. Additional Business
:6. Additional Business
:- Helping QRPH define/review a content module based on PCD-01 (ORU^R01) for an infant hearing/screening device.
::o Have defined an implementation guide and trial use, Have some cases where PCD-01 need enhanced and changed, and have questions on 11073 containment. 
::o Ken Pool provided overview; 3 major pieces – rosetta resolution, hl7 message , put it in PCD world, have needs for excluded items, looking for alternatives.  Nature of containment tree and profile relevance.  Seems designed for different case.  They have a simple device – unsure what to do.
::o Tree:  Simple device, what is role of tree?  Defines how you describe device John G provided overview.  Paul Schluter explained how to apply – don't need to use all fields, need to use one of the two top levels, those that don't apply don't need to be used.  John Rhoads – can express complex or simple device, primarily for more complex devices, but can be simple for this hearing screening equipment.  Can be abstract or specific to a device.  Paul S – this model can handle a wide range of devices.  Is there a device available to use as a model?  Terms are defined in 11073, you can use those terms to load the fields.  More important is capturing metrics.  From one term code, can have relationships to more specific terms.  Some explanation of specific terms in infusion pumps and how that model can be used for hearing equipment. 
::o Differences between what they need vs. whats in PCD-01.  They will list those and send to PCD to help resolve. 
::o- John G – Believes data is there, and can work through the discrepancies as identified.  Can go over those on another TC call or QRPH call, most likely on a TC call.
:- AAMI showcase -
:- AAMI showcase -
::o  Shelley working on graphics, please provide input.   
:- New CPs  [http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_CP_grid  PCD CP Grid ]
::o  Can post existing CPs for ballot today.  Manny and Paul will post. Any others? 
::o Only expected, but not seen is the alert list (Todd mentioned). 
::o One to address EUI/DNS issues. Jeff M will draft, send to John R, then post for balloting by tomorrow. 
::o Al:  Some additions to CP100, contact Jeff R for the details.  Some discussion, may need a different CP to address “_X” messages because of wider impact (Paul Sc).  Approach?  Allow either/or for _X.  Ideally, allow both.  Does this need to go to ballot and address it in comments.  Al raised the question of _X and Paul Schluter strongly recommended that this conflicts with Rosetta, noting that the absence of this for units for five years is a significant issue with existing systems. He requested a CP for this issue across profiles rather than address the pump profile alone. He noted that Continua does not include the _X. The CP will go forward as is, and the general CP will be addressed later. Paul noted that UCUM is not an issue. Paul further suggested that allowing both (with and without _X) is the most friendly and a separate CP be developed. Include John G in conversation.   


:-  MEM DMC
::o MEM DMC/LS observation msg segs per PCD-01, event msg segs per PCD-04 – EMR proc impact
::o MEM DMC/LS single message contains single observation or single event, additional attrs ok
::o FDA battery status expectations (avoid mass migration home to hospital during disaster)
Discussion of pluses, minuses and alternatives.  Is this an ACM issue?  Not really, MEM decided it was best for the TC overall.  Best approach:  If R41 is available, that would be best, transaction meant for CMS, not EMR.  Paul Sc – Recommend short document outlining idea.  Needs to be done quickly, as it's holding up MEM Items.  Can it go out for ballot now, with these changes later?  Yes. 


'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
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== Next Meetings ==
== Next Meetings ==
May need three meetings in May.
''The next meetings are: ''
''The next meetings are: ''


::- TC April 30 [[PCD TC 2014-04-30 Webex]]  
:- TC April 30 [[PCD TC 2014-04-30 Webex]]  
 
:- PC April 23 [[PCD PC 2014-04-23 Webex]]


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Latest revision as of 15:17, 3 November 2014

Patient Care Device Domain

Meeting Purpose

TC Regularly Scheduled Meeting

WebEx Information

Topic: PCD Technical Committee

Regularly Scheduled Meeting Time

Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Time (New York)

Duration: 60 Minutes

Agenda

1. Agenda Approval
2. Review Discussion Summary PCD TC 2014-03-19 Webex and PCD PC&TC 2014-04-09 Webex and PCD PC&TC 2014 April 1-4 F2F

continued at Thursday morning

3. Announcements
4. Status: TF, Supplement, Other Documents
- DMC, LS
5. Action Item Review (Last reviewed Jan - through 118, Feb - through 159, Aug - through 164, rest not reviewed)
- New items from F2F
6. Additional Business
- AAMI showcase
- New CPs PCD CP Grid
- IHE Columbia follow up
- MEM DMC
o MEM DMC/LS observation msg segs per PCD-01, event msg segs per PCD-04 – EMR proc impact
o MEM DMC/LS single message contains single observation or single event, additional attrs ok
o FDA battery status expectations (avoid mass migration home to hospital during disaster)
7. Next Meetings:
- PC April 23 PCD PC 2014-04-23 Webex
- TC April 30 PCD TC 2014-04-30 Webex

Action Items from Previous Meetings

See PCD Technical Committee Action Items.

Significant changes, other than dates, will be in bold.

References

  • Published and Draft Versions of the TF, Supplements, Other Documents:
- The PCD ftp site has draft versions.
- Published (and possibly in the process of being replaced with new versions):
o http://ihe.net/Technical_Framework/index.cfm#pcd
- and there is a list of CPs, which may, at any given time, affect a published document. The list is at

http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=PCD_CP_grid

  • Not Yet Published:
o ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/

Participants

Chair: Monroe Patillo
Al Engelbert, Tom Kowalczyk, Jeff McGeath, John Rhoads, Paul Schluter, Paul Sherman, Greg Staudenmaier, Manny Furst.

Discussion

Discussion Summaries do not require formal approval, while minutes of meetings where votes are taken do. Participants are encouraged to review and bring up significant issues with discussion summaries of previous meetings. Votes will be taken to approve meetings where votes took place; these may be email ballots.

Item Topic Discussion
1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- Chair
Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues: Placeholder

1. Agenda Approved with addition of Observations in MEM DMC: if there is an observation that changes over time, if there are PCD-01 and PCD-04 to EMRs and CMMSs, … He referred to the distinguishing trigger for PCD-04. If the same server is supporting both an EMR and CMMS then only MSH-21 for PCD-01. Monroe will ask the EMRs whether a new trigger is required – and R41 could be used if available (ORU^R41_^R40). The message structure would then be the same. This affects MEM DMC and EMRs only.
2. Paul Schluter added that start and end should be the same in different messages.

Action(s):

2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- Chair
Status/Discussion:
Discussion Summary of previous meeting(s):
Review Discussion Summary PCD TC 2014-03-19 Webex

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

3 Agenda Items
- As Noted
Status/Discussion:

Placeholder

3. Announcements
4. Status: TF, Supplement, Other Documents
5. Action Item Review (Last reviewed Jan - through 118, Feb - through 159, Aug - through 164, rest not reviewed)
6. Additional Business
- AAMI showcase -
- New CPs PCD CP Grid
o Can post existing CPs for ballot today. Manny and Paul will post. Any others?
o Only expected, but not seen is the alert list (Todd mentioned).
o One to address EUI/DNS issues. Jeff M will draft, send to John R, then post for balloting by tomorrow.
o Al: Some additions to CP100, contact Jeff R for the details. Some discussion, may need a different CP to address “_X” messages because of wider impact (Paul Sc). Approach? Allow either/or for _X. Ideally, allow both. Does this need to go to ballot and address it in comments. Al raised the question of _X and Paul Schluter strongly recommended that this conflicts with Rosetta, noting that the absence of this for units for five years is a significant issue with existing systems. He requested a CP for this issue across profiles rather than address the pump profile alone. He noted that Continua does not include the _X. The CP will go forward as is, and the general CP will be addressed later. Paul noted that UCUM is not an issue. Paul further suggested that allowing both (with and without _X) is the most friendly and a separate CP be developed. Include John G in conversation.
- MEM DMC
o MEM DMC/LS observation msg segs per PCD-01, event msg segs per PCD-04 – EMR proc impact
o MEM DMC/LS single message contains single observation or single event, additional attrs ok
o FDA battery status expectations (avoid mass migration home to hospital during disaster)

Discussion of pluses, minuses and alternatives. Is this an ACM issue? Not really, MEM decided it was best for the TC overall. Best approach: If R41 is available, that would be best, transaction meant for CMS, not EMR. Paul Sc – Recommend short document outlining idea. Needs to be done quickly, as it's holding up MEM Items. Can it go out for ballot now, with these changes later? Yes.

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):


Next Meetings

May need three meetings in May.

The next meetings are:

- TC April 30 PCD TC 2014-04-30 Webex
- PC April 23 PCD PC 2014-04-23 Webex

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