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== Proposed Agenda ==  
== Proposed Agenda ==  
:1 Review Status
:1 Review Status
:2 Open Discussion
:2 Term Definition Model Update
:3 Modes Discussion Update
:4 Open Discussion


== Attachments / Materials ==
== Attachments / Materials ==


...
:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090401_WebEx/Breath_mode_taxonomy-SIMV.xls Breath Mode Discussion Spreadsheet from Respironics / Philips F2F workshops]


== Minutes ==
== Minutes ==
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:'''Chair/Host:'''  Todd Cooper (Breakthrough Solutions Foundry)
:'''Chair/Host:'''  Todd Cooper (Breakthrough Solutions Foundry)


: ''TBD''
: '''Participants:'''  Dr. Dain (ISO TC121/SC4), Pete Goulding (Cardinal/VIASYS), Fernando Isaza (Philips/Respironics), Ken Marks (GE), John Rhoads (Philips), Paul Schluter (GE), Jan Wittenber (Philips)


=== Discussion ===  
=== Discussion ===  
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| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
 
:* Agenda reviewed & approved


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
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| '''Discussion Summary Review''' <br>- Chair
| '''Discussion Summary Review''' <br>- Chair
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* No discussion summaries reviewed during this session


'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
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|-
| align="center" | 3
| align="center" | 3
| '''...''' <br>- TBD
| '''Term Definition Update''' <br>- Group
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* Jan has been mapping & correlating the terms from marks/Schluter + the Modes Discussion
:* May End up with both a MindMap + a spreadsheet
:* Focus will be on a spreadsheet representation
:: Jan will have separate worksheets for each area and then a summarization sheet that shows how they tie together.
:* Spreadsheet sections (or worksheets):
:::- Numerics
:::- Events / Alarms
:::- Modes


'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
:* '''ACTION:''' (Jan) Present Jan's Updated Spreadsheet @ next meeting 2009.04.15


|-
|-
| align="center" | 4
| align="center" | 4
| '''...''' <br>- TBD
| '''Mode Discussions Update''' <br>- Group
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* Reviewed the :* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/RTM/Vent/20090401_WebEx/Breath_mode_taxonomy-SIMV.xls Breath Mode Discussion Spreadsheet from Respironics / Philips].
:* General Discussion:
:::- (Dain) Some "modes" allow various types of breaths, and you cannot truly know the breath type until '''''after''''' delivery.
:::- Question:  '''''Should the group focus on Rows 12 day vs. 11 & up?'''''  IOW - There was a concern that the group not get sidetracked on yet another mode discussion, but use this to drive to a concrete deliverable.
:::- Need to allow for '''''generalization/specialization'''''; need to be able to specify at a high level of abstraction and then add detail as needed.
:::- NOTE:  Focus of this exercise was the clinician's perspective / clinical intent
:::- (Schluter) We should recognize that there are '''''multiple "levels" of describing''''' respiratory rhythm / control / mode.  Waveforms with BTB annotations & monitored parameters + model & control settings will capture this.
:::- Moving this toward a '''''"graphical paradigm" (e.g., full disclosure picture)''''' along the lines of what was done in cardiology for ECG data would be beneficial.
:::- Graphic representation could be a series of waveform snippets, each with annotations (symbols, colors, etc)
:::- Need to break into concurrent states (machine states & patient states & therapeutic objectives)
:::- Could also include control parameter changes as annotations (e.g., as an event to the waveform)


'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
:* '''''ACTION:''''' (Pete & Fernando) Meet again to update the document reviewed above, focusing on p;articular breath types (vs. mode names), column naming (pure mechanical - machine controled, pure spontaneous - patient controlled, & other), fill in more of the cells.  If there is time, also address maneuvers.
:* '''''ACTION:''''' (Jan) Add concurrent content to the spreadsheet; add in real data for graphing examples.


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| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
:* Next meeting '''''''TBD 2009-xx-xx Vent WebEx Session'''''''
:* Next meeting '''''''TBD 2009-04-15 Vent WebEx Session'''''''


'''Action(s):'''
'''Action(s):'''
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=== Next Meeting ===
=== Next Meeting ===
:''TBD 2009-xx-xx Vent WebEx Session''
:''TBD 2009-04-15 Vent WebEx Session''




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Latest revision as of 14:55, 17 May 2010

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Meeting Purpose

IHE PCD Rosetta Terminology Mapping (RTM) Ventilator Task Group regular discussion meeting. See the Proposed Agenda below for specific topics.

WebEx Information

Topic: IHE PCD RTM Vent TG

Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Time: 12:00 pm, Eastern Time (GMT -05:00, New York)

Duration: 120 Minutes


Note: Specific web & phone informaiton will be provided via e-mail to group members.

Contact Manny Furst for more information.

Proposed Agenda

1 Review Status
2 Term Definition Model Update
3 Modes Discussion Update
4 Open Discussion

Attachments / Materials

Minutes

Participants

Chair/Host: Todd Cooper (Breakthrough Solutions Foundry)
Participants: Dr. Dain (ISO TC121/SC4), Pete Goulding (Cardinal/VIASYS), Fernando Isaza (Philips/Respironics), Ken Marks (GE), John Rhoads (Philips), Paul Schluter (GE), Jan Wittenber (Philips)

Discussion

Item Topic Discussion
1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- Chair
Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues:

  • Agenda reviewed & approved

Action(s):

2 Discussion Summary Review
- Chair
Status/Discussion:
  • No discussion summaries reviewed during this session

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

3 Term Definition Update
- Group
Status/Discussion:
  • Jan has been mapping & correlating the terms from marks/Schluter + the Modes Discussion
  • May End up with both a MindMap + a spreadsheet
  • Focus will be on a spreadsheet representation
Jan will have separate worksheets for each area and then a summarization sheet that shows how they tie together.
  • Spreadsheet sections (or worksheets):
- Numerics
- Events / Alarms
- Modes

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

  • ACTION: (Jan) Present Jan's Updated Spreadsheet @ next meeting 2009.04.15
4 Mode Discussions Update
- Group
Status/Discussion:
- (Dain) Some "modes" allow various types of breaths, and you cannot truly know the breath type until after delivery.
- Question: Should the group focus on Rows 12 day vs. 11 & up? IOW - There was a concern that the group not get sidetracked on yet another mode discussion, but use this to drive to a concrete deliverable.
- Need to allow for generalization/specialization; need to be able to specify at a high level of abstraction and then add detail as needed.
- NOTE: Focus of this exercise was the clinician's perspective / clinical intent
- (Schluter) We should recognize that there are multiple "levels" of describing respiratory rhythm / control / mode. Waveforms with BTB annotations & monitored parameters + model & control settings will capture this.
- Moving this toward a "graphical paradigm" (e.g., full disclosure picture) along the lines of what was done in cardiology for ECG data would be beneficial.
- Graphic representation could be a series of waveform snippets, each with annotations (symbols, colors, etc)
- Need to break into concurrent states (machine states & patient states & therapeutic objectives)
- Could also include control parameter changes as annotations (e.g., as an event to the waveform)

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

  • ACTION: (Pete & Fernando) Meet again to update the document reviewed above, focusing on p;articular breath types (vs. mode names), column naming (pure mechanical - machine controled, pure spontaneous - patient controlled, & other), fill in more of the cells. If there is time, also address maneuvers.
  • ACTION: (Jan) Add concurrent content to the spreadsheet; add in real data for graphing examples.
5 Next Meeting
- Chair
Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues:

  • Next meeting ''TBD 2009-04-15 Vent WebEx Session''

Action(s):

Next Meeting

TBD 2009-04-15 Vent WebEx Session



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