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:1. Agenda Approval
:1. Agenda Approval


:2. Review Discussion Summary: [[DEV Joint 2020-08-26 Webex]]
:2. Review Discussion Summary: [[DEV Joint 2020-10-28 Webex]]


:3. Standards Coordination
:3. Standards Coordination


:4. Ballots - None currently
:4. Ballots  
::- CP Ballot for ACM due today, Nov. 18th.
::- Voting at the Program level and the Domain level - generally agreed that CP Ballots will go out to all the Domain (not just the Program).


:5. Marketing DEV, IHE
:5. Marketing DEV, IHE
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:6. Calendar http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Domain_Milestone_Dates
:6. Calendar http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Domain_Milestone_Dates
::- Status of Adopted Workitem Proposals  [[DEV_Proposals: Cycle 15]]
::- Status of Adopted Workitem Proposals  [[DEV_Proposals: Cycle 15]]
:: Quiet Hospital
:: New Profiles


:7. DEV Action Item Review  
:7. DEV Action Item Review  
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:8. Programs activities  
:8. Programs activities  
::- PCD
::- PCD
:::- Quiet Hospital
:::- Christophe Fournier, TC Cochair, passed away
::- PCH
::- PCH
:::- Detailed Proposal - Direct-to-Cloud-Constrained Devices [https://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/Direct-to-Cloud-Constrained_Devices_-_Detailed_Proposal]
:::- Question regarding Actors and their naming?
:::- Question regarding Trial Implementation (need rough draft)?
::- DPi
::- DPi


:9.  Other Business
:9.  Other Business
::- Virtual F2F (October)
::- Domain Board Report
::- Domain Board Report
::- PCD Comments Google Group (Action to revisit this in November)


:10. Next and Recent Meetings  
:10. Next and Recent Meetings  
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::- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020  [[DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex]]
::- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020  [[DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex]]
::- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.
::- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.
::- DEV Cochairs January 26th, 2021 [[DEV Cochairs 2021-01-26]]
::- DEV Joint January 27th, 2021 [[DEV Joint 2021-01-27]]


== Action Items from Previous Meetings ==
== Action Items from Previous Meetings ==
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Cochairs: Kurt Elliason, Thom Erickson, Javier Espina, Todd Cooper, Rob Wilder
Cochairs: Kurt Elliason, Thom Erickson, Javier Espina, Todd Cooper, Rob Wilder
Kurt chaired today's meeting.
Technical Project Manager: Michael J. Kirwan
Technical Project Manager: Michael J. Kirwan
Chair: Kurt Elliason
Chair: Kurt Elliason
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| '''Agenda Items''' <br>- Standards Coordination
| '''Agenda Items''' <br>- Standards Coordination
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
::- Kurt led today's discussion. No further additions to the agenda noted, the agenda was approved.
::-  
::- Reviewed discussion/meeting summary from last month. 


'''Placeholder'''
'''Placeholder'''
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  :3. Standards Coordination
  :3. Standards Coordination


::- Javier noted that the IEEE -10206. Bluetooth Generic Health Sensor service and profile functional requirements document was submitted to BARB. Once approved the spec development will start, likely around December time-frame. Additionally, HL7 working on publication of the IG, referenced by the PCH POU profile. It’s currently only referenced but never published.
::- Kurt noted that Paul Schluter couldn't attend however they are making good progress on all fronts (with the infusion pump and ventillator mode, and dialysis machine.  
::- Ken noted that for the 11073 PoCD side, they are now more active with SDC. There have been three standards approved over last 3 years. They are now working on higher levels where a subgroup has been created. The subgroup has now met twice so they’re just getting started. Also, there is an additional nomenclature PAR -10101V related to SDC.  
 
::- Michael noted that the IEEE 11073 PHD group will start discussions on Spriomety on November 5th. This will be to draft the PAR. They do expect to need nomenclature codes but have already looked at this in the past. Currently assessing how the device specialization will work with their new -10206 ACOM work.


  :4. Ballots - None currently
  :4. Ballots  
::- CP Ballot for ACM. Michael noted a few abstains but all other votes have approved the CP.


  :5. Marketing DEV, IHE
  :5. Marketing DEV, IHE


::- Quiet hospital: Tom noted that we have completed this and it’s been out there awhile. We’d like to know what we can improve. Todd will take our experiences to the Board. The big thing is the overall feeling that HIMSS did not support us. More important, now having gone through this, we’re not feeling that we were getting support from HIMSS. Would like to make this more accessible and advertised. Monroe agrees here but notes that HIMSS can’t show too much favoritism, so he never expected too much. Suggests to find out how to get on TV commercials (i.e., Masimo). Ken suggests that HIMSS set up a Webinar. Monroe noted that HIMSS typically would not showcase one vignette against others. There’s no special promotion beyond what the package offers. Tom notes that anything else outside of HIMSS. Monroe suggests promoter MD Expo, what would it cost to promote. Michael suggested to reach out to Amit (via Adam Bazer).  
::- John Donnelly noted that Todd has been making arrangements with the IHE Marcomm group (on the agenda).  


  :6. Calendar http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Domain_Milestone_Dates
  :6. Calendar http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Domain_Milestone_Dates


::- Calendar has been updated by Kurt making it more flexible for publication deadlines. We need to narrow down the dates. Ken noted that things are a bit out of sync as the events have changed (timing and virtual). Virual EU Connectathon is going through the first virtual event and may be a technical challenge. Monroe noted that they are offloading infrastructure and unfortunately large corporations don’t like testing on their corporate networks (related to IP addresses and qualified public/private domain names). They are asking corporations to whitelist within their firewall. It’s likely that participation will shrink. Ideally they should hold a trial run with three vendors plus gazelle (for DEV they could choose PIV and ACM as if these are successful then most everything else would be straight forward).
::- Reviewed the calendar. Going forward we will consider any proposals monthly so new dates are flexible.  
 
::- Detailed proposal December time-frame for submission.  


  :7. DEV Action Item Review  
  :7. DEV Action Item Review  


::- Finishing the Board report still open (Todd working on it). In number 7 it has seven items. Add update to say all the above is done but the report.  
::- Reviewed actions.
:::- Status of TF on GitHub: John noted it's coming along and working with Todd on cleaning this up.  


  :8. Programs activities  
  :8. Programs activities  


:- PCD
:- PCD
::- Monroe noted that they are working through CPs for ACM for ballot. A few more to go this year. Not all will make the TF but they should make it for the March Connectathon.  
::- Quiet Hospital: Rob noted all is moving along and that there are number of updates to ACM (1 is currently being balloted, another is out for comment and another coming after this).  
::- Tom commented that there was nothing more for quite hospital. See above.  
::- There is currently discussions going on to move PCD from HL7 v2.6 to v2.8.2 (looking at what it will take). Noted that DEC uses UDI, ACM uses a couple (trigger, etc). There are a number of features that others would like to use in HL7 v2.8.2.
::- Monroe commented that the SDC effort for co-location recognition of location for security and interoperability of devices is starting. How they do this will be interesting. Crossover is expected.  
::- Very sad news this week regarding the death of Christophe Fournier, TC Cochair. PCD will discuss further in a future meeting (December).


:- PCH
:- PCH
::- Javier noted that PCH will not provide a presentation at FHIR Developer Days (their proposal was not selected). They will have a virtual booth where their work will be mentioned and available for attendees to review.


:- Dpi
::- Thom presented a set of slides.
::- Ken noted that there was not much on DPi and that the next two meetings dates may change due to holidays.  
:::- Promotional activities:
::::- We will be participating in FHIR DevDays in a virtual booth and will provide videos on the new IEEE 11073-10206 and the Bluetooth LE Generic Health Sensor spec.
::::- HIMSS Engagement: Thom noted that they are working to mainstream stakeholder language for remote patient monitoring. Additionally the Value Proposition Development work is still underway.
::::- IEEE 11073-10206 Abstract Information Model (a.k.a, ACOM and Simplified DIM). Also working with the Bluetooth SIG on the Generic Health Sensor. It is currently in the BARB and to be sent out today for the 2nd round. Other work with the D2C Constrained Implementation to be discussed next. Thom noted that they have completed CTT and Gazelle integration and that the POU Profile Test Case Package is also now completed within the CTT. The Remote Test Capability proposal has been received and now seeking funding (to be used for Connectathons). John G questioned how the integration of Gazelle would work and suggested a demo be provided after the work is completed. Agreed that we should do this once the work is completed inside of Gazelle TM.


:9. Other Business
::- Michael presented the draft Detailed Proposal for D2C Constrained noting the changes since last month's approval of the brief proposal. Thom questioned the process to approve this proposal. Kurt suggested sending an email to allow the committee to approve and to do like a CP in December. This would goto Domain level (both PC and TC). Michael to work with Thom and Javier on this but the request should come from a chair. Michael can initiate and manage the ballot. Noted that detailed proposals are more formal so like a ballot. Will go in 3 steps, send out for review then ballot after that, we will send an email for review then start the ballot.  


:- Resolve Webex Meetings for DEV PC & TC (Clarify the invites)
:::- Discussion regarding the Actors: Questioned what should the architecture names be? Monroe noted that each profile has unique names. Can we stay with the generic name or make them more elaborate? Monroe noted that Gazelle requires unique actor names that must be unique to all others in IHE as this is for the search list. Is it unique or a re-used actor. We can use 4 characters for actors. John G questioned if the devices coupled with something like a gateway. Thom noted that it would look the same at the receiver, so the architecture does map to -10206 and would happen in the cloud. Monroe noted that the DEC profile does not require a gateway and that there are sampling devices that do send HL7 data directly. Tim noted that for low end sensors the translation is in the cloud. John D noted that there will be a lot of innovation in the future here so he likes the idea of using DDOR. Javier noted that the POU uses DOR and DOC. Tim questioned that if the detail is beyond that level does this constitute a change in the name of the actor if it's high level. John G noted that the actor is a black box in/out and he agrees (so you don't even need the 'D' in front of DOR). A variation here makes sense. We just need a mapping to a name that fits in the global name space. Determined that we list this as an open issue in the profile noting it will have to be mapped to unique name (profile, transaction and actor names all need to be unique) before implementing within Gazelle for a Connectathon.
::- Currently they are set for each week. Questioned if we want to delete those meetings. Due to holiday schedule, having them as they currently are, we will keep them as they are.  
:::- Do we have a template for Trial Implementation? Kurt recommended speaking to John Rhoads on this.
:- Classify Change Proposal to Programs and Domain (Action item from F2F)
::- Discussion started noting that PCD is a program, not a domain; however, it up to us to decide. Paul is inclined to have this as a program bucket. Questioned where the list of CP’s were kept and how the numbers were assigned. Paul noted that the list is really just a bunch of abstentions and a few votes. Noted that the Domains have to point to the IHE Governance, and a Domain consists of all programs.  


::- Regarding quorum, it was questioned if it important that a CP goes out to all and how a ballot is calculated (is it a percentage of everything)? Noted that if it is at the Domain level then quorum is based on the Domain eligible members. Quorum must be over half of the eligible members (maintained attendance). Paul noted that typically, people not attending a Program aren’t prepared to vote, so they, must abstain. Noted that the activity to maintain eligibility across programs is difficult. Ken commented that the process is similar to the IEEE where most people vote and participate. Also questioned if the Program level was a Committee as the governance document note “decisions taken by a committee”. There was consensus that if someone wants to vote, that’s OK, but it’s not required. And, it’s acceptable for CP Ballots to go out at the program level so we will send them out to all going forward. 
:- Dpi


:- Domain Board Report
::- Ken noted that they are focusing on a Trial Implementation for the SDPi profile. They are working weekly and all is going well but a number of things need to be clarified. currently developing use-cases.
::- See above action items discussion note.  


:- PCD Comments Google Group
:9. Other Business
::- We generally agreed that what Paul wrote in email was good. We decided to defer to next meeting.  


:- Meeting schedule in November and December
:- PCD Comments Google Group (Action to revisit in November): Questioned what we should do with this? Currently you can submit comments individually and also via the group template excel file if several comments. Decided to just go with the online form for submitting comments forward but go through and respond to the comments. Once that is done then have Mary remove the group. Noted that Todd is not in the google group so he likely hasn't seen the comments. Michael to send out the list noting we will remove the list, just forward to Todd then shut down the group.  
::- Discussed November Cochair and Joint meetings. Currently they are slated during the week of Thanksgiving and may not be well attended. December is the same. We decided to cancel December’s meetings and, for November, we will meet the week before assuming Javier is able to adjust the PCH meetings that conflict with November 17th. Javier will work with Thom and advise the group.  


:-10. Next and Recent Meetings
:- Domain Board Report
::- DEV Cochairs November 17th, 2020, [[DEV Cochairs 2020-11-17 Webex]]
::- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020  [[DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex]]
::- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.


== Next Meetings ==
== Next Meetings ==
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::- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020  [[DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex]]
::- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020  [[DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex]]
::- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.
::- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.
::- DEV Cochairs January 26th, 2021 [[DEV Cochairs 2021-01-26]]
::- DEV Joint January 27th, 2021 [[DEV Joint 2021-01-27]]


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[[Category:DEV Meeting Archive 2020]]
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[[Category:PCD Meeting Archive 2020]]

Latest revision as of 17:14, 18 October 2021

Patient Care Device Domain

Meeting Purpose

Joint DEV Domain Meeting (PCD, PCH, DPi): At the Regularly Scheduled Meeting Time

WebEx Information

Topic: Joint DEV Domain Meeting

Regularly Scheduled Meeting Time

- Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Time (New York)
- Duration: 60 Minutes

Proposed Agenda

1. Agenda Approval
2. Review Discussion Summary: DEV Joint 2020-10-28 Webex
3. Standards Coordination
4. Ballots
- CP Ballot for ACM due today, Nov. 18th.
- Voting at the Program level and the Domain level - generally agreed that CP Ballots will go out to all the Domain (not just the Program).
5. Marketing DEV, IHE
6. Calendar http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Domain_Milestone_Dates
- Status of Adopted Workitem Proposals DEV_Proposals: Cycle 15
7. DEV Action Item Review
- Link to Action Items: https://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/DEV_Planning_Committee_Action_Items#Action_Items_001-009
- Link to DEV Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bASbQ802YbXVr--1kCiAGeyKCk6Om6Tv
8. Programs activities
- PCD
- Quiet Hospital
- Christophe Fournier, TC Cochair, passed away
- PCH
- Detailed Proposal - Direct-to-Cloud-Constrained Devices [1]
- Question regarding Actors and their naming?
- Question regarding Trial Implementation (need rough draft)?
- DPi
9. Other Business
- Domain Board Report
- PCD Comments Google Group (Action to revisit this in November)
10. Next and Recent Meetings
- DEV Cochairs November 17th, 2020, DEV Cochairs 2020-11-17 Webex
- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020 DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex
- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.
- DEV Cochairs January 26th, 2021 DEV Cochairs 2021-01-26
- DEV Joint January 27th, 2021 DEV Joint 2021-01-27

Action Items from Previous Meetings

None currently

See DEV Planning Committee Action Items and DEV Technical Committee Action Items

Significant changes, other than dates, will be in bold.

References

  • Published and Draft Versions of the TF, Supplements, Other Documents:
- The PCD ftp site has draft versions.
- Published (and possibly in the process of being replaced with new versions):
o http://ihe.net/Technical_Framework/index.cfm#pcd
  • Not Yet Published:
o ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Devices/Profiles/

Participants

Cochairs: Kurt Elliason, Thom Erickson, Javier Espina, Todd Cooper, Rob Wilder

Kurt chaired today's meeting.

Technical Project Manager: Michael J. Kirwan Chair: Kurt Elliason Guests: John Garguillo, Monroe Pattillo, Paul Schluter, Christophe FOURNIE, Ken Fuchs, John Garguilo, Tom Kowalczyk, Monroe Pattillo, John Rhoads, Paul Schluter, Paul Sherman, and Rob Wilder.

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Todd Cooper, Kurt Elliason, Al Engelbert, Thom Erickson, Javier Espina, Christophe Fournier, Ken Fuchs, John Garguilo, Tom Kowalczyk, Monroe Pattillo, Dalibor Pokrajac, John Rhoads, Jeff Rinda, Paul Schluter, Paul Sherman, Rob Wilder, Brian Witkowski, Robert Canfield, James Jacobson, Tobias Klotz, Per Johansson, Kerin Klagges-Kingsbury, Peter Verstandig, , Jeanne Kraimer, David G, Erik Myklebust, Luke Goodwin, John Krupka, Victoria Tower, Peter Kranich, Matt Picinich, Stefan Schlicting, Ujjawal Kumar, Dan Lee, Steve Eberly, John Donnely, Michael Faughn, Neil Henry, David Pitts, Charles Perriot, Robert Smigielski
Chair: Thom Erickson

Discussion

Discussion Summaries do not require formal approval, while minutes of meetings where votes are taken do. Participants are encouraged to review and bring up significant issues with discussion summaries of previous meetings. Votes will be taken to approve meetings where votes took place; these may be email ballots.

Item Topic Discussion
1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- Chair 		Status/Discussion:

Decisions/Issues:

Agenda approved

Action(s):

2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- Chair 		Status/Discussion:
- Accepted

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

3 Agenda Items
- Standards Coordination 		Status/Discussion:
-

Placeholder 

:3. Standards Coordination
- Kurt noted that Paul Schluter couldn't attend however they are making good progress on all fronts (with the infusion pump and ventillator mode, and dialysis machine.


:4. Ballots
- CP Ballot for ACM. Michael noted a few abstains but all other votes have approved the CP.
:5. Marketing DEV, IHE
- John Donnelly noted that Todd has been making arrangements with the IHE Marcomm group (on the agenda).
:6. Calendar http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Domain_Milestone_Dates
- Reviewed the calendar. Going forward we will consider any proposals monthly so new dates are flexible.
:7. DEV Action Item Review
- Reviewed actions.
- Status of TF on GitHub: John noted it's coming along and working with Todd on cleaning this up.
:8. Programs activities
- PCD
- Quiet Hospital: Rob noted all is moving along and that there are number of updates to ACM (1 is currently being balloted, another is out for comment and another coming after this).
- There is currently discussions going on to move PCD from HL7 v2.6 to v2.8.2 (looking at what it will take). Noted that DEC uses UDI, ACM uses a couple (trigger, etc). There are a number of features that others would like to use in HL7 v2.8.2.
- Very sad news this week regarding the death of Christophe Fournier, TC Cochair. PCD will discuss further in a future meeting (December).
- PCH
- Thom presented a set of slides.
- Promotional activities:
- We will be participating in FHIR DevDays in a virtual booth and will provide videos on the new IEEE 11073-10206 and the Bluetooth LE Generic Health Sensor spec.
- HIMSS Engagement: Thom noted that they are working to mainstream stakeholder language for remote patient monitoring. Additionally the Value Proposition Development work is still underway.
- IEEE 11073-10206 Abstract Information Model (a.k.a, ACOM and Simplified DIM). Also working with the Bluetooth SIG on the Generic Health Sensor. It is currently in the BARB and to be sent out today for the 2nd round. Other work with the D2C Constrained Implementation to be discussed next. Thom noted that they have completed CTT and Gazelle integration and that the POU Profile Test Case Package is also now completed within the CTT. The Remote Test Capability proposal has been received and now seeking funding (to be used for Connectathons). John G questioned how the integration of Gazelle would work and suggested a demo be provided after the work is completed. Agreed that we should do this once the work is completed inside of Gazelle TM.
- Michael presented the draft Detailed Proposal for D2C Constrained noting the changes since last month's approval of the brief proposal. Thom questioned the process to approve this proposal. Kurt suggested sending an email to allow the committee to approve and to do like a CP in December. This would goto Domain level (both PC and TC). Michael to work with Thom and Javier on this but the request should come from a chair. Michael can initiate and manage the ballot. Noted that detailed proposals are more formal so like a ballot. Will go in 3 steps, send out for review then ballot after that, we will send an email for review then start the ballot.
- Discussion regarding the Actors: Questioned what should the architecture names be? Monroe noted that each profile has unique names. Can we stay with the generic name or make them more elaborate? Monroe noted that Gazelle requires unique actor names that must be unique to all others in IHE as this is for the search list. Is it unique or a re-used actor. We can use 4 characters for actors. John G questioned if the devices coupled with something like a gateway. Thom noted that it would look the same at the receiver, so the architecture does map to -10206 and would happen in the cloud. Monroe noted that the DEC profile does not require a gateway and that there are sampling devices that do send HL7 data directly. Tim noted that for low end sensors the translation is in the cloud. John D noted that there will be a lot of innovation in the future here so he likes the idea of using DDOR. Javier noted that the POU uses DOR and DOC. Tim questioned that if the detail is beyond that level does this constitute a change in the name of the actor if it's high level. John G noted that the actor is a black box in/out and he agrees (so you don't even need the 'D' in front of DOR). A variation here makes sense. We just need a mapping to a name that fits in the global name space. Determined that we list this as an open issue in the profile noting it will have to be mapped to unique name (profile, transaction and actor names all need to be unique) before implementing within Gazelle for a Connectathon.
- Do we have a template for Trial Implementation? Kurt recommended speaking to John Rhoads on this.
- Dpi
- Ken noted that they are focusing on a Trial Implementation for the SDPi profile. They are working weekly and all is going well but a number of things need to be clarified. currently developing use-cases.
:9.  Other Business
- PCD Comments Google Group (Action to revisit in November): Questioned what we should do with this? Currently you can submit comments individually and also via the group template excel file if several comments. Decided to just go with the online form for submitting comments forward but go through and respond to the comments. Once that is done then have Mary remove the group. Noted that Todd is not in the google group so he likely hasn't seen the comments. Michael to send out the list noting we will remove the list, just forward to Todd then shut down the group.
- Domain Board Report

Next Meetings

The next meetings are:

- DEV Cochairs November 17th, 2020, DEV Cochairs 2020-11-17 Webex
- DEV Domain (Joint) November 18th, 2020 DEV Joint 2020-11-18 Webex
- DEV Cochair and Joint meetings for December are cancelled.
- DEV Cochairs January 26th, 2021 DEV Cochairs 2021-01-26
- DEV Joint January 27th, 2021 DEV Joint 2021-01-27

PCD Home

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