Rad Tech Minutes 2024-04-15-19

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• Agenda for this meeting is: https://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/Rad_Tech_Agenda_2024-04-15-19#Tuesday.2C_April_16.2C_2024
• Working folder for IHE RAD Tech 2023-24 cycle: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17pOz-x3bSePfhfIyN9Zlyt0YPE0414o-

Monday, April 15, 2024

Attendees: Andrei Leontiev (Visage), Kinson Ho (Tempus), Sean Doyle (Hyperfine), Shiokawa (Salt) Yasunari (JAHIS, IHE-J), David Kwan (IHE Canada, Insygnia), Wim Corbijn (Philips), Khaled Younis (SIIM), Antje Schroeder (Siemens), Kevin O'Donnell (Canon), Steve Nichols (GE), John Paulett, Jason Malobicky (Rad AI), Jaime Dulkowski, TeRhonda McGee, Chris Carr (RSNA), Lynn Felhofer (IHE RAD TPM)

• A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
  • Agenda Review - agenda will be modified in the afternoon. Takeaway: create a first draft of the next meeting agenda at the end of this one.
• S1: 9:00am-11:00am: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Goal for this week is to prepare IDR for public comment publication
  • Public comment resolution is planned for an 'extra' RAD Tech meet during the Trieste Connectathon June 3-7 (perhaps half days)
  • Kevin walked through Vol 1 content to lay a roadmap for this week's discussions
  • Begin review of Vol 3 report content encoding specification
• S2: 11:15am-12:15pm: Maintenance
  • CP Ballot 2024A comment resolution
    • 2024A CPs were reviewed, updated based on comments, and moved to Final Text status. The comment sheet is in the folder linked here.
    • The 4 CPs in Ballot 2024A are now Final Text status.
• A2: 1:00pm-1:30pm: Administrative Time - agenda updated
• S3: 1:30pm-3:00pm: Reject Analysis (RAM)
  • Progress on resolving public comments in Vol 1 content
• S4: 3:15pm-5:00pm: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue Vol 3 discussion, with focus on Impressions

Tuesday, April 16, 2024

Attendees: Ana Kostadinovska (Philips), Kevin O, David K, Wim C, Antje S, Khaled Y, Andrei L, Kinson H, Steve N, TeRhonda M, Jamie D, Chris C, Lynn F (also members of DICOM WG20 for morning discussion of IDR issues)

• S1: 9:00-11:00am: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue review of IDR; gather topics for discussion with WG20
• 10:00-11:00am - Joint Session with DICOM WG20
  • Discussion of FHIR-related open issues to seek guidance from members of WG20
• S2: 11:15am-12:15pm: Reject Analysis (RAM)
  • Continue resolving public comments
• S3: 1:30pm-3:00pm: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue fleshing out Vol 3 content, with focus on impressions, recommendations.
• S4: 3:15pm-4:45pm: Maintenance
  • Finish evaluation of candidate profiles for promotion & deprecation: See rows 16-25 of the 2024 republication plan
    • Antje's profile evaluation forms for SMI, CXCAD, and MAWF are in this folder in google drive
    • Steve's BIR profile eval form for FT
    • Steve's NMI Card eval form for FT
    • Kinson will draft eval forms for WIA and WIC before the end of the week
  • Assign editors & dates in 2024 Republication Planning
  • Joint RAD Tech/Planning meeting needed to approve moving proposed profiles to Final Text and Retired status. Proposed date of April 30 -- Jamie to organize and confirm. Lynn agreed to draft an agenda containing a pointer to the list of profiles and associated evaluation forms.
  • Discussion of Retired vs Deprecated profile status
    • Retired = Stale technology. The profile is no longer maintained by IHE. Could be applied to TI or FT profiles.
    • Deprecated = Do not implement this. The profile is removed from the TF publication; remains in the archive. Could be applied to TI or FT profiles.
  • CP-RAD_473 (Final Text) will be moved to Cancelled status when MAWF is approved for retirement.
• A3: 4:45pm-5:00pm: Administrative Time

Wednesday, April 17, 2024

Attendees: Bas van den Heuvel, Chris Melo (Philips), Jason M, Kevin O, David K, Khaled Y, Wim C, Ana K, Salt, Antje S, Andrei L, John P, Kinson H, Steve N, Jamie, D, Chris C, TeRhonda M, Lynn F

Clinical Consult participants: Andrei Morariu, Namita Gandhi, Kathy Kent, Cree Gaskin, Adam Flanders, Chris Roth, Pete O'Toole

• A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
  • Brief overview of registration for RAD profiles at the Trieste Connectathon
• S1: 9:00am-10:30am: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue developing use case content in Vol 1
• S2: 10:45am-12:15pm: Reject Analysis (RAM)
  • Continue public comment resolution
  • We agreed to move refactoring updates to RAD-29 and RAD-66 into CP-RAD-535. These changes were reviewed as part of RAM public comment. RAD Tech agreed to move this CP to Final Text and integrate it into the TF in 2024.
• S3: 1:15pm-2:45pm: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue refining content specification, including Provenance
• C1: 3:00pm-4:00pm: Clinical Consult
  • Clinical input received based on questions from Kevin. See list of participants above.
• S4: 4:15pm-5:00pm: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue refining content specification

Thursday, April 18, 2024

Attendees: Andrei L, Antje S, Chris M, Salt, Sean D, Kevin O, Wim C, Ana K, Khaled Y, Kinson H, Steve N, David K, TeRhonda M, Lynn F

• S1: 9:00am-10:30am: Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
  • Continue processing TCQs
• S2: 10:45am-12:15pm: Maintenance
  • Review and finalize Profile Evaluation forms for WIA and WIC . RAD Tech confirmed that these should be moved to Final Text
  • Process newly Submitted CPs (includes one for WIA)
    • New CP-RAD-536 - Add missing audit triggers for RAD-129, -107 - Assigned to Lynn
  • CP-related discussion topics for committee deliberation
    • CP-RAD-513 - SWF.b: Clarify Intermittently Modality behavior in RAD-10 Storage Commitment (Steve, Sean) - reviewed Steve's update to the CP. It is ready for ballot; move to status "Completed"
    • CP-RAD-501-FT - approved small update to WIA FT CP
• S3: 1:30pm-3:00pm: Reject Analysis (RAM)
  • Continue addressing TCQs
• S4: 3:15-4:45pm Imaging Diagnostic Report (IDR)
• A3: 4:45pm-5:00pm: Administrative Time

Annex: RAM TI-Prep Closing Assessment

• Did we line-by-line the entire document

No. Will circulate for review before tcon.

• How ready is it to go out for TI: Completely, Almost, Soonish, Hmmm

Almost. Pretty good shape.

• How did the work fit in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)

Just Right.

• Review the evaluation. Which complexity/uncertainty/effort points missed the mark?

Pretty much on target. IOCM interactions were simpler than expected. 29 vs 66 was a bit more discussion than expected. Code "hierarchies"

• Or alternatively, estimate how many points you went over and assign the overage effort/complexity/uncertainty to the appropriate points.

n/a

• Are all the open issues closed?

Yes

• What significant debates in TI-prep were not anticipated in the Kickoff or PC-Prep

None really.

• Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?

Basically. yes.

• What residual risks are worth noting

Coverage/usability for Non-xray still a bit murky but that is peripheral use case.

• Does it feel we've met all the use cases

Yes.

• Did the promised resources manifest

Mostly. Kevin L had a job move, wasn't able to join as much as hoped.

• What vendors are engaged (for each actor)

Note Creator/Modality - Canon, SHS, Philips Archive - Canon, Visage, Philips, SHS, Reporter/Analyzer - ??

• Who should specifically be targeted for TI notification (implementors & advocates)

AAPM, EFOMP and DICOM WGs, Kevin(s) will forward the notice

• When will we have sample data/objects

Not hard to make.

• Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the TI meeting, if not what was the gap

Mostly. Would have been nice to have gotten more comment issues into draft text. Also fewer gaps in the other modality code tables would have been nice but maybe that just reflects the current lack of interest in the field there. It was about leaving the door open for the scope rather than covering that scope in detail. "Conditional Scope"

• Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the TI meeting, if not what was the gap

Mostly. Should have had time for line-by-line/page-by-page

• Do you need any tcons between now and TI Publication

Yes. One tcon to do a page-by-page and review any bits that turn out to be tricky in the final edit.

Maintenance topics for the week

Link to RAD CP Tracking sheet

Link to RAD TF Maintenance folder in google drive

Maintenance topics:

• Review / update Assessment of RAD profiles for promotion or deprecation
  • Candidates for promotion & deprecation: See rows 16-25 of the 2024 republication plan
    • See Antje's profile evaluation forms here and her deprecation CPs in Submitted and
    • Profile deprecation process

• Complete TF republication plan for 2024; assign editors & dates

• Process newly Submitted CPs

• CP-related discussion topics for committee deliberation
  • CP-RAD-513-02 SWF.b: Clarify Intermittently Modality behavior in RAD-10 Storage Commitment (Steve, Sean) - Reworked as discussed.
  • CP-RAD-423 Add specificity to IOCM (unreject) (Steve)
  • CP-RAD-501- FT - review small update to this WIA FT CP, suggested by Lynn

• Other CPs ready for committee review:
  • CP-RAD-463 - Add RDSR Display option in REM (Kevin)
  • CP-RAD-496-01 - Missing arrow in in SWF.b actor/transaction diagram (Lynn)
  • CP-RAD-478-01 - Remove out-of-date references to DICOM and supplement (Lynn)
  • CP-RAD-515-01 - Vol 2x: Fully integrate SWF.b into Appendix D (Lynn) -- cmte input needed
  • CP-RAD-483-00 - Deprecate PWF transactions (Lynn) -- get go-ahead from RAD Tech to do this
  • CP-RAD-305-02 - Revise profile dependencies (grouping) in Vol 1) (Lynn) -- cmte input needed; do it, or kill it...
  • CP-RAD-436-02 - Fix inconsistencies in IOCM actor / transaction and grouping requirements (Lynn) -- cmte input needed
  • CP-RAD-410-03 - XCA-I is out of date for Async (Lynn)
  • CP-RAD-491-01 - Code Mapping WP update (Lynn)

• Review / update Top Ten CP list
  • Finalize content and timing of next CP ballot