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:* '''Action item: Fill the document with all use-cases already defined (Jose)'''
 
:* '''Action item: Fill the document with all use-cases already defined (Jose)'''
 
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* Proposal
 
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* Presentation of project "MonDossierMedical.ch" / Geneve region / Switzerland (Stephane)
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* Presentation of project "Medikationsplan" in North Rhine Westfalia / Germany (Kai)
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* Vision of the work ahead (Jürgen, Stephane)
 
* Vision of the work ahead (Jürgen, Stephane)
 
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* Discussion
 
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:* Shaped, how this work fits into the landscape (slide 3)
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* '''Formal approval of the new work-item proposal'''
 
* '''Formal approval of the new work-item proposal'''
* Defining next steps
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:* Approve
  
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* Team
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:* Work-item lead: Stephane
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:* Members: Jürgen, Michael, Stephen, Kai, Jose, Jacqueline, Leonidas
  
=10:45 - 11:00 Break=
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* Defining next steps
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:* Learn profile template and how to write use-case stories (derive from e.g. CMPD) and insert description of the use-case into it (Stephane)
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::* '''Action item: Trigger our group when finished with this work (Stephane)'''
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:* After that, choose data-elements, codes for sections, etc. based on PRE specification
  
  
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=11:30 - 12:30 Pharmacy Administration=
 
* Current work:
 
* Current work:
 
:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Profiles/PharmacyAdministration ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Profiles/PharmacyAdministration]
 
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* Wrapping up work done so far, open issues and how to continue (Jürgen)
 
* Wrapping up work done so far, open issues and how to continue (Jürgen)
 
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:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Profiles/PharmacyAdministration/Administration%20Issues%20and%20Thoughts%2020141023.pptx ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Profiles/PharmacyAdministration/Administration%20Issues%20and%20Thoughts%2020141023.pptx]
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* Discussion
 
* Discussion
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:* Group discovered that the names of the Community Content Profiles are kind of misleading. A rename should be considered:
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::* Pharmacy Prescription -> Medication Prescription
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::* Pharmacy Dispense -> Medication Dispense
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::* Pharmacy Pharmaceutical Advice -> Pharmaceutical Advice
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::* Pharmacy Medication List -> Medication List
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:::* Problem: Acronym is PML -> simply let is like it is
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::* Pharmacy Administration -> Medication Administration
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::* Decision: These changes are decided
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* Defining next steps
 
* Defining next steps
  

Revision as of 06:50, 29 October 2014

08:00 - 08:15 Welcome

  • Participants
  • Jürgen Brandstätter
  • Leonidas Tzimis
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Michael Tan
  • Jacqueline Surugue
  • Marc Robberecht
  • Stephane Spahni
  • Simon Lettelier
  • Kai Heitmann
  • Angela Merzweiler
  • Christof Gessner
  • Stephen Chu
  • Review and Approve Agenda
  • Approved with changes in order


08:15 - 08:30 Schedule

  • Current version:
  • Open issues:
  • Status of IHE Joint meeting with ITI, PCC and QRPH: 24-25 February 2015, ASIP Santé Offices, Paris, France (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen has contacted Nancy and Celina, but hasn't received an answer yet.
  • Action item: Do a follow-up (Jürgen)
  • IHE Joint meeting with SIG HL7 Pharmacy : 15 May 2015, Paris, France (Jacqueline)
  • Expected person count: 17
  • Jacqueline has contacted Francois Macary, he said that he will check, but hasn't received an answer yet
  • Action item: Do a follow-up (Jacqueline)
  • Alternatives: Marc can ask at the AGFA office in Ivry / Paris
  • Action item: Ask AGFA about the size of available meeting rooms
  • Regular IHE F2F meeting : 18-19 June 2015, Chania (Crete), Greece
  • Leonidas has 3 found opportunities for meeting place
  • 1) Inside Leonidas' hospital of Chania
  • 2) Building of the Private Pharmacists association of Chanis
  • 3) Meeting room in the City hall. Major of the city has been contacted (best option)
  • Leonidas will send out information for travel and accommodation


08:30 - 09:00 Hospital-Community Use Cases Whitepaper

  • Current version
  • Discussion
  • Can it be published? Open issues?
  • Still needs some review/addition
  • Decision: The Whitepaper will NOT be published itself, but will be inserted into the Common Pharmacy Whitepaper
  • Project Management and Todos
  • 1. Use-case in document "Collaboration between connected Hospital Pharmacies" will be merged into the Cross-Domain WP
  • 2. Cross-domain WP + chapter 10 of Common Pharmacy WP will be reviewed
  • Action item: Stephane & colleagues
  • 3. Cross-domain WP will be merged into chapter 10 of Common Pharmacy WP. Cross-domain WP will be abandoned.
  • 4. Overwork Information Model of Common Pharmacy WP
  • 5. Publish new version of Common Pharmacy WP


  • A "Use-case overview" document has been created and will be maintained from now on
  • CMPD, HMW, Hospital&Community WP, Supply chain WP, General Pharmacy WP, etc.


09:15 - 10:45 Medication Treatment

  • Proposal
  • Presentation of project "MonDossierMedical.ch" / Geneve region / Switzerland (Stephane)
  • []
  • Presentation of project "Medikationsplan" in North Rhine Westfalia / Germany (Kai)
  • []
  • Vision of the work ahead (Jürgen, Stephane)
  • Discussion
  • New version of slides created during meeting
  • []
  • Agreed on the working title "Medication Therapy Plan Item"
  • Shaped, how this work fits into the landscape (slide 3)
  • Formal approval of the new work-item proposal
  • Approve
  • Team
  • Work-item lead: Stephane
  • Members: Jürgen, Michael, Stephen, Kai, Jose, Jacqueline, Leonidas
  • Defining next steps
  • Learn profile template and how to write use-case stories (derive from e.g. CMPD) and insert description of the use-case into it (Stephane)
  • Action item: Trigger our group when finished with this work (Stephane)
  • After that, choose data-elements, codes for sections, etc. based on PRE specification


11:30 - 12:30 Pharmacy Administration

  • Current work:
  • Wrapping up work done so far, open issues and how to continue (Jürgen)
  • Discussion
  • Group discovered that the names of the Community Content Profiles are kind of misleading. A rename should be considered:
  • Pharmacy Prescription -> Medication Prescription
  • Pharmacy Dispense -> Medication Dispense
  • Pharmacy Pharmaceutical Advice -> Pharmaceutical Advice
  • Pharmacy Medication List -> Medication List
  • Problem: Acronym is PML -> simply let is like it is
  • Pharmacy Administration -> Medication Administration
  • Decision: These changes are decided
  • Action item: Determine how profile name changes are performed (Jürgen)



  • Defining next steps


12:30 - 13:30 Lunch

13:30 - 14:00 Several Community Pharmacy related issues

  • PADV issue: Deep analysis of code "CHANGE" revealed that it actually means "CHANGE + OK" (= implies the OK too). Related to that, the state "OK" actually means "(Unchanged) OK"
  • Question: Do we need a simple "CHANGE" which does not also imply the OK? Not needed for A, SA and CH -> at the moment it is an academic discussion
  • DIS issue: The Dispenser also needs Profession and Specialty
  • Proposal: Exchange <performer> by <author> for the Dispenser. Change <author> by a second <author> for a possible prescriber of the underlying prescription
  • PADV issue: Requirement of CH: Providing comments to PRE or DIS items (e.g. The patient has problems swallowing the pill because it's too big).
  • Possible solution: Extend PADV by a new code "COMMENT", which has no effect on the workflow, but just provides commenting information, e.g. as concern
  • PRE issue: Precondition is often used to describe dosage related information (e.g. "Take on demand")
  • Question: Shall it be moved under "Dosage instructions"?
  • PADV, PML issue: The issue appears only, when a PRE entry is referenced in a PADV or embedded in a PML + this entry contains an internal reference in the "Reason" element (e.g. to a diagnosis expressed in an Active Problems section)
  • Current solution in PADV: The section referenced is not included and instructions are given how to break the internal reference
  • Proposed solution: CP on PADV and PML to allow 0..* additional sections to be added in order not to break the internal references. Those section do NOT belong to the PADV/PML document itself, but are just inserted to fulfill the internal reference
  • PML issue: CH brought up that the PML might be used for "feeding" a medication plan
  • Discussion: Currently PML is intended as a "read-only", on-demand document. Shall that be changed? Should we add a note somewhere to clarify?


14:00 - 15:15 ISO liaison

  • Report on ISO meeting in Berlin (Jürgen)
  • Commenting on ISO/DIS 17523 "Requirements for electronic prescriptions"
  • ISO DTS 19293 "Requirements for the record of Dispense Medicinal Products"
  • Discussion
  • Defining next steps
  • ISO/DTS 17251, "Business requirements for the exchange of structured dose instructions for medicinal products"
  • Discussion
  • Defining next steps


15:15 - 15:30 Break

17:00 Adjourn

Pharmacy Planning Committee