Pharm Tech Minutes 2013.03.18

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10:00 - 10:15 Welcome

  • Call to Order/Roll Call
  • Jürgen Brandstätter
  • Jacqueline Surugue
  • Michael Tan
  • Leonidas Tzimis
  • Simon Lettelier
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Marco Demarmels


  • Review and Approve Agenda
  • Approved with extensions of Jose
  • Approval of minutes of TCon Jan 15, 2013


10:15 - 11:00 Schedule 2012/2013

  • Planning Joint meeting with HL7 and ISO WG6
  • Decisions:
  • Nictiz has space for a joint work item IHE/HL7/WG6 for about up to 40 persons
  • Is also willing to provide supply (coffee, etc.)
  • IHE Pharmacy group is in favor of such a joint working group meeting
  • "Joint day" must be at Wednesday 12th
  • because Nictiz hosts HL7 Pharmacy day at 13th and 14th, but in another location
  • Nictiz offers that ISO WG6 is hosted also at Thursday 13th, if WG6 prefers to do so (in Den Haag)
  • Proposal for schedule:
  • (1) 2 days IHE Pharmacy only: Monday 10th/Tuesday 11th / Joint: Wednesday 12th
  • (2) 1 day IHE Pharmacy only: Tuesday 11th / Joint: Wednesday 12th
  • Next steps
  • Jürgen: Contact HL7 and ISO WG6 about our decisions and drive the process forward


11:00 - 11:30 Events

  • CAT NA 2013 Review
  • CAT EU 2013 Status
  • IHE International World Summit


11:30 - 12:30 Call for proposals

  • Jürgen: New work item "Pharmacy Administration (ADM)"
  • Proposal has been reviewed
  • Changes have been requested and the proposal has been extended:
  • Michael: New work item "IHE profile for hospital admission and discharge"
  • Proposal has been introduced by powerpoint slides
  • Relates to:
  • Current work on "Unreconsiled medication list"
  • Populating the medication sections of discharge summary:
  • Medication at admission
  • Hospital Medication (during stay)
  • Discharge Medication
  • Decision:
  • The proposal for a profile will be converted in a proposal for a whitepaper
  • There is already a chapter (10) in the existing Pharmacy Whitepaper, so this chapter will be extended
  • The workflow steps of admission and discharge shall be analysed, based on:
  • the current content of chapter 10
  • the existing whitepaper "Hospital & Community use-cases"
  • content of Micheals's slides
  • Goal of the whitepaper: Be the basis for creating a workflow-profile
  • Action items
  • Work-item: "Extending Pharmacy Whitepaper: Admission/Discharge", Lead: Michael
  • Action item: "Extending Pharmacy Whitepaper: Admission/Discharge, first draft" (Michael)

12:30 - 13:30 --- Lunch ---

13:30 - 14:30 Action item status

Work- and Action-items list

  • Strategic
  • Jürgen: "Slide with the statement, will be shaped between the co-chairs until suitable"
  • Not started yet
  • Jürgen: "Invite HL7 Pharmacy to joint meetings"
  • Completed


  • Hospital Pharmacy
  • Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Simon, Jose)
  • Simon: "New version of the whitepaper will be published at the FTP followed by a TCon"
  • Completed
  • Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)
  • Marc: "Extends use-cases, Incorporating the use-cases in the whitepaper and adding the sequence diagrams, New version of the whitepaper will be published"


  • Community Pharmacy
  • CMPD Exceptional cases and Refinement CMPD workflows (?)
  • Owner needed
  • XDW at CPM (?)
  • Owner needed, on hold until "CMPD Exceptional cases" is finished
  • Separation of CMPD actors into "Content Creator" and "Transport" actors (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: "First check and evaluation"
  • Completed
  • Evaluate the creation of a CMPD.b profile which shall consider topologies without central repository (?)
  • Owner needed, On hold until "Separation of CMPD actors" is finished


  • Pharmacy Administration (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: Create "Draft profile"
  • Completed
  • Introduce ADM into CMPD Profile (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: Create "Change proposal on CMPD introducing a Administration actor"
  • Completed


  • General
  • Use-case/CPs: Community – Hospital (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: "Contact several parties explicit for feedback"
  • Since the decision has been taken to merge that whitepaper to chapter 10 of the Pharmacy Whitepaper, this action-item will be postponed until chapter 10 is finished
  • Validation of profile coverage of use-cases (Jacqueline)
  • Jose: "Analyze, if Jacquelines use-case is sufficient for validation of coverage"
  • No news, postponed to May 2nd, 2013


  • Cross-domain
  • Medication Documentation
  • Part 1: Hierarchy/Definitions (Stephen)
  • Jacqueline, Stephen, Melva, Leonidas will provide use-cases, Michael reviews
  • Postponed until "Medication Management Related Concepts and Definitions" is completed
  • Create document "Medication Management Related Concepts and Definitions" (Stephen)
  • Ongoing
  • Part 2: Data-sources and the according nature of the data (Jose)
  • Jose: First draft
  • Ongoing
  • Jürgen: Start proposal for a "Unreconsiled Medication List" profile
  • Ongoing
  • Glossary work item (Marco)
  • Marco: "Maintaining glossary"
  • Ongoing
  • Owner needed: Contributing our terms to SKMT


  • Joint work-item with HL7: Standardized content (Jürgen, Tom)
  • Michael: "Mapping of HL7 Pharmacy Message Types information elements to suitable CDA R2 information elements"
  • ongoing
  • Monitoring and Syncing with PCD: (Perfusion administration)
  • Owner needed


14:30 - 15:30 Joint work-item with HL7: Standardized content

  • Michael: Mapping of HL7 Pharmacy Message Types information elements to suitable CDA R2 information elements
  • Samples:
  • IHE: Received a PRE and DIS sample
  • HL7: Normative Edition 2012
  • Mapping was done by a self-made XSLT
  • Experiment: Convert a PRE into a HL7v3 "Order fulfillment message" (PORX_IN011070UV01)
  • Outcome:
  • Successful conversion of PRE to HL7v3 "Order fulfillment message" so far (about 80%)
  • Some elements could not have been converted, because they are related to a "document" and therefore there is no element in a message
  • The core of the information was successfully converted so far
  • Conclusion
  • We suppose that the content PRE to messaging is equivalent -> Part 1 of evaluation of a CMPD.b (Message based CMPD) is completed
  • Work-item "Eval_CMPD.b" new leader: Michael
  • Action-item: "Part 2 of evaluation: Architecture, Actors, Transactions" (Michael)
  • (1) Actor-diagram, (2) Sequence-diagram, (3) Transactions


15:30 - 16:00 --- Break ---

16:00 - 16:30 HMW Change proposals (Jose)

  • CP has been reviewed. Some changes have been requested
  • Jose will incorporate the changes and send it to the group soon
  • CP will be put on agenda for TCon at May 2th, 2013 for approval


16:30 - 17:00 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Simon, Jose)

  • Review of current version of Simon's document



17:30 - 18:00 Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)

  • Work on work item