Pharm Tech Minutes 2013.03.18

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10:00 - 10:15 Welcome

  • Call to Order/Roll Call
  • Jürgen Brandstätter
  • Jacqueline Surugue
  • Michael Tan
  • Leonidas Tzimis
  • Simon Letellier
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Marco Demarmels


  • Review and Approve Agenda
  • Approved with extensions of Jose
  • Approval of minutes of TCon Jan 15, 2013


10:15 - 11:00 Schedule 2012/2013

  • Planning Joint meeting with HL7 and ISO WG6
  • Decisions:
  • Nictiz has space for a joint work item IHE/HL7/WG6 for about up to 40 persons
  • Is also willing to provide supply (coffee, etc.)
  • IHE Pharmacy group is in favor of such a joint working group meeting
  • "Joint day" must be at Wednesday 12th
  • because Nictiz hosts HL7 Pharmacy day at 13th and 14th, but in another location
  • Nictiz offers that ISO WG6 is hosted also at Thursday 13th, if WG6 prefers to do so (in Den Haag)
  • Proposal for schedule:
  • (1) 2 days IHE Pharmacy only: Monday 10th/Tuesday 11th / Joint: Wednesday 12th
  • (2) 1 day IHE Pharmacy only: Tuesday 11th / Joint: Wednesday 12th
  • Next steps
  • Jürgen: Contact HL7 and ISO WG6 about our decisions and drive the process forward


11:00 - 11:30 Events

  • CAT NA 2013 Review
  • CAT EU 2013 Status
  • IHE International World Summit


11:30 - 12:30 Call for proposals

  • Jürgen: New work item "Pharmacy Administration (ADM)"
  • Proposal has been reviewed
  • Changes have been requested and the proposal has been extended:
  • Michael: New work item "IHE profile for hospital admission and discharge"
  • Proposal has been introduced by powerpoint slides
  • Relates to:
  • Current work on "Unreconsiled medication list"
  • Populating the medication sections of discharge summary:
  • Medication at admission
  • Hospital Medication (during stay)
  • Discharge Medication
  • Decision:
  • The proposal for a profile will be converted in a proposal for a whitepaper
  • There is already a chapter (10) in the existing Pharmacy Whitepaper, so this chapter will be extended
  • The workflow steps of admission and discharge shall be analysed, based on:
  • the current content of chapter 10
  • the existing whitepaper "Hospital & Community use-cases"
  • content of Micheals's slides
  • Goal of the whitepaper: Be the basis for creating a workflow-profile
  • Action items
  • Work-item: "Extending Pharmacy Whitepaper: Admission/Discharge", Lead: Michael
  • Action item: "Extending Pharmacy Whitepaper: Admission/Discharge, first draft" (Michael)

12:30 - 13:30 --- Lunch ---

13:30 - 14:30 Action item status

Work- and Action-items list

  • Strategic
  • Jürgen: "Slide with the statement, will be shaped between the co-chairs until suitable"
  • Not started yet
  • Jürgen: "Invite HL7 Pharmacy to joint meetings"
  • Completed


  • Hospital Pharmacy
  • Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Simon, Jose)
  • Simon: "New version of the whitepaper will be published at the FTP followed by a TCon"
  • Completed
  • Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)
  • Marc: "Extends use-cases, Incorporating the use-cases in the whitepaper and adding the sequence diagrams, New version of the whitepaper will be published"


  • Community Pharmacy
  • CMPD Exceptional cases and Refinement CMPD workflows (?)
  • Owner needed
  • XDW at CPM (?)
  • Owner needed, on hold until "CMPD Exceptional cases" is finished
  • Separation of CMPD actors into "Content Creator" and "Transport" actors (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: "First check and evaluation"
  • Completed
  • Evaluate the creation of a CMPD.b profile which shall consider topologies without central repository (?)
  • Owner needed, On hold until "Separation of CMPD actors" is finished


  • Pharmacy Administration (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: Create "Draft profile"
  • Completed
  • Introduce ADM into CMPD Profile (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: Create "Change proposal on CMPD introducing a Administration actor"
  • Completed


  • General
  • Use-case/CPs: Community – Hospital (Jürgen)
  • Jürgen: "Contact several parties explicit for feedback"
  • Since the decision has been taken to merge that whitepaper to chapter 10 of the Pharmacy Whitepaper, this action-item will be postponed until chapter 10 is finished
  • Validation of profile coverage of use-cases (Jacqueline)
  • Jose: "Analyze, if Jacquelines use-case is sufficient for validation of coverage"
  • No news, postponed to May 2nd, 2013


  • Cross-domain
  • Medication Documentation
  • Part 1: Hierarchy/Definitions (Stephen)
  • Jacqueline, Stephen, Melva, Leonidas will provide use-cases, Michael reviews
  • Postponed until "Medication Management Related Concepts and Definitions" is completed
  • Create document "Medication Management Related Concepts and Definitions" (Stephen)
  • Ongoing
  • Part 2: Data-sources and the according nature of the data (Jose)
  • Jose: First draft
  • Ongoing
  • Jürgen: Start proposal for a "Unreconsiled Medication List" profile
  • Ongoing
  • Glossary work item (Marco)
  • Marco: "Maintaining glossary"
  • Ongoing
  • Owner needed: Contributing our terms to SKMT


  • Joint work-item with HL7: Standardized content (Jürgen, Tom)
  • Michael: "Mapping of HL7 Pharmacy Message Types information elements to suitable CDA R2 information elements"
  • ongoing
  • Monitoring and Syncing with PCD: (Perfusion administration)
  • Owner needed


14:30 - 15:30 Joint work-item with HL7: Standardized content

  • Michael: Mapping of HL7 Pharmacy Message Types information elements to suitable CDA R2 information elements
  • Samples:
  • IHE: Received a PRE and DIS sample
  • HL7: Normative Edition 2012
  • Mapping was done by a self-made XSLT
  • Experiment: Convert a PRE into a HL7v3 "Order fulfillment message" (PORX_IN011070UV01)
  • Outcome:
  • Successful conversion of PRE to HL7v3 "Order fulfillment message" so far (about 80%)
  • Some elements could not have been converted, because they are related to a "document" and therefore there is no element in a message
  • The core of the information was successfully converted so far
  • Conclusion
  • We suppose that the content PRE to messaging is equivalent -> Part 1 of evaluation of a CMPD.b (Message based CMPD) is completed
  • Work-item "Eval_CMPD.b" new leader: Michael
  • Action-item: "Part 2 of evaluation: Architecture, Actors, Transactions" (Michael)
  • (1) Actor-diagram, (2) Sequence-diagram, (3) Transactions


15:30 - 16:00 --- Break ---

16:00 - 16:30 HMW Change proposals (Jose)

  • CP has been reviewed. Some changes have been requested
  • Jose will incorporate the changes and send it to the group soon
  • CP will be put on agenda for TCon at May 2th, 2013 for approval


16:30 - 17:00 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Simon, Jose)

  • Review of current version of Simon's document
  • A whitepaper has been written by Simon and Jose. Jacqueline and Leonidas have volunteered to review the document and propose new use cases. Simon will extend the current work with substitution formulary.


17:30 - 18:00 Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)

  • The material for distribution and supply has been gathered, but need to be sorted out. Marc will sum up the material and we will discuss the material in the next session.

Pharmacy Technical Committee