DEV Domain F2F Oct 2020 Webex
Paul Sherman, PCD TPM
Meeting Objectives
- These face-to-face meetings have a number of objectives depending on the committees involved:
- DEV Domain level Discussions
- DEV PCD Program Discussion
- Planning Committee: Review, plan and initiate PCD activities; contribute to planning of the HIMSS Interoperability Showcase and other Showcases and events; recruit vendors and users.
- Technical Committee: Review and adopt brief profile proposals;Adjourn Joint PC&TC meeting. contribute to Connectathon test tools, tests, and procedures.
Location & General Schedule
- Location:
- - Virtual via Webex (Info below)
- Dates
- - To assist European participants, all meetings will be morning meetings, with a meeting on Friday.
- the times will be 9AM EDT - 1PM EDT
- Monday : Pump Working Group
- Tuesday : Joint DEV Domain meeting (PCD+DPi+PCH), PCD Planning Committee
- Wednesday : PCD Planning and Technical Committees
- Thursday, : PCD Technical Committee
- Friday, : PCD Technical Committee
- The schedule is proposed; actual meeting times may change during the week.
- Daily Schedule - All times Eastern Daylight Time (US)
- 09:00 - 11:00 Session #1
- 11:15 - 13:00 Session #2
Agenda Suggestions
Please submit suggestions for agenda topics here or through emails to the committee co-chairs.
From the DEV PCD PC Action Items PCD Planning Committee Action Items:
- No current open Action Items
From the DEV PCD TC Action Items: PCD Technical Committee Action Items:
- 196 Add PCD specific values to HL7 table 78
- 200 MDS and VMD Requirements
- 201 Pump utilization - publicizing
- 202 MEMDMC CP to make PID and PV1 segments optional
Webex Support
Because of COVID-19, these meetings will be held via Webex. The links will are provided below.
Reminders: the IP agreement is in force, and participation counts toward voting rights.
Please note: the log in and phone number for each meeting is the same as for our WG meetings. The password is included in the email sent to participants. These are not provided here for security reasons (this is a public Wiki page).
The IHE Webex page is [IHE Webex]
- DEV PCD Meetings
- - Monday, October 5: DEV PCD Pump WG: Meeting Number: 145 575 8268
- - Tuesday, Oct 6: DEV Domain joint, followed by DEV PCD PC: Meeting Number: 145 230 3641
- - Wednesday Oct 7: Joint DEV PCD PC&TC and TC: Meeting Number: 145 257 7058
- - Thursday Oct 8: DEV PCD TC: Meeting Number: 145 546 3377
- - Friday, Oct 9: DEV PCD TC: Meeting Number: 145 767 6035
- PCH Meetings:
- - Tuesday, Oct 6: DEV Domain joint: Meeting Number: 145 230 3641
- DPi Meetings:
- - Tuesday, Oct 6: DEV Domain joint: Meeting Number: 145 230 3641
Updated 8/10/2020 PRS
Attachments / Materials
Documents related to the meeting when available will be found at the [Devices Google Drive] unless otherwise noted. Documents are available without a password.
Schedule/Deadlines: Patient Care Device and Domain Milestones
PCD PC Action Items PCD Planning Committee Action Items. Significant changes, other than dates, will be in bold.
PCD TC Action Items PCD Technical Committee Action Items. Significant changes, other than dates, will be in bold.
Detailed Schedule & Agenda
Monday, October 5 (PCD Pump Workgroup)
Date Hours Committees Topics
Monday 09:00 - 1:00 PCD Pump workgroup - Morning (09:00-1:00)
- Introductions - Kurt
- Agenda review - Kurt
- IHE IP Management Process - Kurt
- 9:15
- Pump Terms containment model update - 1.5hr
- Are all terms correct and unambiguous?
- Identify any missing comments/descriptions for terms.
- Identify any deprecated/withdrawn terms.
- Decision on readiness of terms for IEEE 10101b
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- Break (10:45-11:00)
- PCD-10 question
-
- 1:00 > Meeting Adjournment
Tuesday Oct 6, 2020
Date Hours Committees Topics
Tuesday Pt. 1 09:00 - 11:00 Joint IHE Devices (DEV) Meeting - 09:00 > IHE IP Management Process (Kurt)
- 09:05 > Introductions and Agenda Review (Kurt and Thom)
- 09:20 > Welcome (15 minutes)
- 09:30 > Program Reports (20 minutes each)
- 09:30 PCD
- 09:50 PCH
- 10:10 DPI
- IHE International Board - Update & Feedback (Todd)
- Review 2020/2021 Milestones - [1]
- Domain Discussions
- Domain vs. Program decisions (Profiles, CPs, etc.) (Paul Sherman)
Break 11:00 - 11:15 AM Tuesday Pt. 2 11:15 AM - 1:00 PM Joint IHE Devices (DEV) Meeting Continued - 11:15 >
- New Proposals
- - DPI - Medical Device Interoperability Reference Architecture (MDIRA)
- PCH- PCH D2C Work-item Brief Proposal [2]
- DEV PC Action Items: DEV PC Action Items
- - 002 Board Review
- - 003 Wiki Web Updates
- - 004 Finalize the DEV Cochair Leadership (PCD vs DEV TC & PC) - Call for Domain Cochairs. Put forth 2 names for the DEV Ballot
- Ballot currently open - results or finish vote (Michael)
- Proposed schedule for Spring 2021 F2F
- - If Virtual
- Tuesday AM Pump WG
- Wed AM PC and Joint PC/TC
- Thurs AM TC
- Friday AM Joint DEV
- - If Live
- Tuesday Pump WG
- Wed AM PC and Joint PC/TC
- Wed PM and Thurs AM TC
- Thurs PM Joint DEV
- 12:45 > Next steps and wrap up
- 13:00 > Adjourn Joint DEV Meeting
updated 10/02/2020
Wednesday Oct 7, 2020
Quarter Time Lead Agenda Items Wednesday Pt. 1 09:00 - 11:15 AM - 09:00 > Joint DEV PCD PC/TC meeting
- Introduction
- - IHE IP Management Process (5 minutes)(Kurt)
- - Review & Approve Joint PC&TC Agenda (Kurt)
- Five year plan
- No current plan
- - 2017 Roadmap
- - and 2011 Plan Notes
- Cochair Action item - 106 - Activities Promoting PCD.
- Location, Dates of the DEV PCD 2021 Spring F2F
- Adjourn Joint DEV PCD PC&TC meeting.
Break 11:15 - 11:30 AM Thursday Pt. 2 11:30 AM - 1:00 PM DEV PCD Technical Committee (TC) - 11:30 > Start DEV PCD PC meeting
- Introduction
- - IHE IP Management Process (5 minutes)(Kurt)
- - Review & Approve PC Agenda (Kurt)
- General PCD Work Program Review (statuses, plans only, details during TC sessions):
- - ACM (Rob W for Monroe P)
- - MEM DMC (Rob W for Monroe P)
- - MEM LS (Rob W for Monroe P)
- - WCM (Paul Schluter)
- - IDCO (Paul Schluter)
- - RTM (Paul Schluter)
- - Vent (Paul Schluter)
- - PIV (Kurt)
- - IPEC (Kurt)
- - Pump (Kurt)
- - PCIM (John R)
- - Physio monitor (John R)
- - DEC
- General update PCD TF) (John R)
- DEC OPTION: FHIR (Todd C)
- - EC (John R)
- - DCM Pulse Oximetry
- Currently waiting for someone to take it to FT.
- - Review current Action Item: PCD Planning Committee Action Items:
- None as of 9/30/2020
- Adjourn Planning Committee meeting
Updated 10/02/2020 PRS
Thursday Oct 8, 2020
Quarter Time Lead Agenda Items Thursday Pt. 1 09:00 - 11:00 AM - 09:00 > COpen DEV PCD Technical Committee (TC)
- TC Welcome and Agenda Review (Tom Kowalczyk)
- Announcement – Decision Making meeting (TC Co-Chairs)
- DEV PCD Program review:
- ACM (Monroe P)
- MEM DMC (Monroe P)
- MEM LS (Monroe P)
- DEC (John R)
- EC (John R)
- PIV (Kurt)
- IPEC (Kurt)
- Pump (Kurt)
- DPI (John R)
- Physio monitor (John R)
- PCIM (John R)
- Vent (Paul Schluter)
- IDCO (Alexander Kraus)
- RTM (Paul Schluter)
- Quiet Hospital
Break 11:00 - 11:15 AM Thursday, Pt. 2 11:15 AM - 1:00 PM DEV PCD Technical Committee (TC) - 11:15 > Continued topic discussions
- PCD TC Action item review
- 196 Add PCD specific values to HL7 table 78
- 200 MDS and VMD Requirements
- 201 Pump utilization - publicizing
- 202 MEMDMC CP to make PID and PV1 segments optional
updated 10/02/2020 PRS
Friday, Oct 9, 2020
Quarter Time Lead Agenda Items Friday Pt. 1 09:00 - 11:00 AM - 09:00 > Continue DEV PCD TC Meeting
Break 11:00 - 11:15 AM Friday, Pt. 2 11:15 AM - 1:00 PM DEV PCD Technical Committee (TC) - 11:15 > Continued topic discussions
- F2F Action Review (from this week)
- - DEV - PCD Program
- If approved, schedules for Spring 2021 F2F
- - If Virtual
- Tuesday AM Pump WG
- Wed AM PC and Joint PC/TC
- Thurs AM TC
- Friday AM Joint DEV
- - If Virtual
- - If Live
- Tuesday Pump WG
- Wed AM PC and Joint PC/TC
- Wed PM and Thurs AM TC
- Thurs PM Joint DEV
- - If Live
- PC
- PC&TC
- TC
- > TC Meeting Wrap up and Adjournment (Fournier)
updated 10/02/2020 PRS
- Note: Time slot TBD: IDCO
Participants
Monday Oct 5
- Chair: Kurt Elliason (Smiths Medical)
- Participants: Al Engelbert (BBraun), Ali Nakoulima (Cerner), Brian Witkowski (BBraun), Christophe Fournier (Fresenius), Jeff Rinda (Interoperability Solutions), Marufur Rahmen (ICU), Paul Schluter (CMI), Tom Kowalczyk (BBraun)
Tuesday, Oct 6
Wednesday, Oct 7
Thursday, Oct 8
Friday, Oct 9
Discussion
Discussion Summaries do not require formal approval, while minutes of meetings where votes are taken do. Participants are encouraged to review and bring up significant issues with discussion summaries of previous meetings. Votes will be taken to approve meetings where votes took place; these may be email ballots.
Monday Pump WG Meeting
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - Reviewed IHE IP Management Process
Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved
Action(s):
2 Pump Terms containment model update
Status/Discussion: - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rN5x8Uhlj6s8qIoExzaS1EyfrpgfvCZt/edit
- Comments added to Review Comments tab in spreadsheet
- Identified some missing terms/descriptions.
- Deprecated/to be withdrawn terms have been removed from Model already, Brian has a list that has been added to spreadsheet as new tab
- Deprecated terms needs to be reviewed by everyone, need to add replacement terms for each deprecated term.
- Decision on readiness of terms for IEEE 10101b - getting closer, still need to finish a few updates based on questions/comments.
3 PCD-10 question Flush event
Status/Discussion: - PCD-10 question on Flush event, MDC_EVT_STAT_LINE_FLUSH.
- IPEC has very specific events defined, this could be a PCD-01 event but would not be a PCD-10 event.
5 Next meeting
Status/Discussion: - Decided to hold next pump WG meeting on Oct 26th, will cancel Oct 12th.
- Brian working on FHIR based approach to programming pumps - will add to agenda for discussion on the 26th
- Christophe will prepare some examples of messages using the Model for review on the 26th.
- Pump WG F2F meeting adjourned at 10:30
Action(s): See above
Tuesday DEV Domain Meeting Summary
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - Kurt Elliason reviewed the IHE IP Management Process
- Introductions and Agenda Review
Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved
Action(s):
2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - PCD
- - Quiet Hospital (Rob)
- Constant progress, discussing some changes, esp with ACM. Some changes underway. Lot of Definition progress. Word is getting out very well via a HIMSS video. Pla to have presentations witrh SDPi and ACM included at the HIMSS Showcase.
- - Pumps (Brian)
- Terminology updating underway. Formalizing new termss and cleaning up existing terms. New spreadsheet with containment model hierarchy. Michael Faughn asking a lot of good questions. Hope to get it out for review and then inclusion in 10101b.
- PCH (Thom)
- - Slide deck on Google Drive.
- - Promotional Activities – Blog series came out. Participated in FHIR Dev Days, will join the November session as well. IHE Webinar, video on Youtube. Participated in HIMSS Europe 2020.
- - Preparing Program Value proposition for customers.
- - Working with IEEE-PHD to simplify the information model. Working on 2nd draft – will have BT info to develop a generic sensor profile. Close to BARB (Bluetooth Architecture Review Board) review.
- - D2C constrained Implementation (Brief Proposal prepared to vote on today)
- - Mobile Health Apps – styill in queue
- - Test and Tools – Gazelles, POU Profiles and Remote Testing capabilities.
- - Project Gemini Participation – Info in slides.
- - PCHA Code report – Goal to connect any medical devices to any EMR.
- - Surveyed builders – Got to 300-400 people, will wrap up in a couple of weeks.
- 10:10 DPI (Ken)
- - Had about 2-3 meetings focused on Brief Profile Proposal. Still getting organized and moving forward.
- Review 2020/2021 Milestones - [3]
- 2020 – TF in final stages, will be published soon
- 2021 – Looking format similar to ITI, rather than hard dates, would make us more nimble. Monroe – need to check with Mary on how it will affect her workload. DEV Cochairs will take this forward as an ‘’’Action Item’’’
- Domain Discussions
- Domain vs. Program decisions (Profiles, CPs, etc.) (Paul Sherman)
- - Thom – Do things at the program level as much as possible. Rob – CPs at program level, but communicate at Domain level. Quiet Hospital is a good example PCD work that affects DPi is a good example. Unless it’s at the governance level, we may not need Domain action. Rob will assemble some notes for review at DEV Cochairs ’’’Action Item’’’
- New Proposals
- - DPI - Medical Device Interoperability Reference Architecture (MDIRA) (Todd)
- Been circulated within Dpi and DEV for review. A 10 year journey to get here.
- How to leverage existing standards to create a DEV Porofile (Add transactions and Actors). MDIRA leverages existing ICE work.
- Talk about data logger – how will we get the data out of the logger? No guidance on that yet. Dialysis is using the HL7 v2 ‘Batch’ function – it works very well. There is a lot of work available that can help.
- Are there actual devices that are using or planning on using this? Yes, it’s a DoD funded project; there is a pump and couple of monitors that are using it. 2-3 pump companies are preparing to implement it. The plan is to have it open source. Big question – is this addressing problems already solved? It is focused on solutions that provide value.
- Todd displayed MDIRA website and link. Discussed process, monetization and open source nature of the product.
- Motion proposed (Christophe), Second (Rob) – approved.
- - PCH D2C Work-item Brief Proposal [4] (Thom and Michael)
- Figure out to have a small device send info in a low coverage area without the battery running down fast. Touches on a number of standards for leverage.
- Proposal voted on and approved.
- Discussion of process for detailed proposal. Can be close to TI or just a bit more detailed. Other members will help with that work.
- - PCH D2C Work-item Brief Proposal [4] (Thom and Michael)
- - Motions will be posted on the meeting folder and the current cycle folder.
- DEV PC Action Items: DEV PC Action Items
- - 002 Board Review
- - 003 Wiki Web Updates
- Todd has some more to do yet, re-open and set to Oct 27
- - 004 Finalize the DEV Cochair Leadership (PCD vs DEV TC & PC) - Call for Domain Cochairs. Put forth 2 names for the DEV Ballot.
- Closed, slate approved
- Paul and Michael will formalize IHE notification.
- Proposed schedule for Spring 2021 F2F
- - Propose April for meeting month. Not week of
- - Discussion regarding virtual vs. F2F, a lot depends on HIMSS support commitment. Concerns about HIMSS support coordination.
- - Will
- - If Virtual
- Monday Pump WG
- Tues PCD PC
- Wed Joint PC/TC and TC
- Thurs TC
- Friday Joint DEV
- - If Live
- Tuesday Pump WG
- Wed AM PC and Joint PC/TC
- Wed PM and Thurs AM TC
- Thurs PM Joint DEV
- Discussion of HIMSS conference and Use Case presentations.
- - Rob discussed their recent experience with the virtual showcase. Discussion on process and plans for the August HIMSS conference Showcase.
- IHE International Board - Update & Feedback (Todd)
- - January – update on Global Consortium at ONC conference. HL7, HIMSS, PCH Alliance and IHE pledge to cooperate. Consortium formed and will start to leverage strength. May hear some noise about IHE and FHIR ‘taking over the world’; not the case, taking advantage our work and support it. Work and coordination, specs, testing happens in IHE (Gemini Project), Consortium is interested in promoting and encouraging work forward and creating publicity and awareness. Is it all about FHIR? There was a lot of discussion. HL7 is highly focused on FHIR, though most work is in V2.
- - Membership is strong, a lot due to DEV.
- - IHE Europe Connectathon is virtualized (early November) Cost is about the same due to platform work. Plugathon coming up as well. Plan to leverage this work for the NA Connectathon. NA Connectathon is rescheduled for March now. Showcase will be part of August HIMSS conference.
Any details on when we’ll get info on the NA Connectathon? Likely nothing until after the European Connectathon.
- - Discussion of Showcase presentations and virtual vs. live. Cost estimates? Tom: Took 5 months to prep, physical device expenses, software costs were minimal. May be an advantage to prep for virtual; live conversion costs wouldn’t be overwhelming. Getinge sponsored a lot of the work, so those expenses were minimized. More support from HIMSS would help this a lot. It’s easier to pivot from virtual to F2F vs. the other direction. Do we, or can we assemble a ‘lesson learned’ document to take back to IHE and HIMSS – Tom and Todd will work on it. ‘’’DEV Action Item’’’ Review at DEV Leadership call Oct 27.
- - Role of IHE with other orgs – Making slow but consistent progress. Seems to be at a good pace. Project Gemini components are easier to understand than prior efforts. Confluence helps, Rob recommends we adopt it. ONC funded project to get IHE published same level as HL7, making progress, though still heavily FHIR focused.
- Github discussion: Make sure which CPs need integrated to Github. John R – Cps
- Draft 2020 TF prep. Make a DEV Committee ‘’’Action Item’’’, due Oct 28.
- Next steps and wrap up
- Milestone process review
- Proposals distributed as needed to proceed, plus confirm Milestones dates.
- Spring meeting – assume virtual, select April dates after week of 5th.
- Send final list of Cochairs to IHE.
- DEV Cochairs – virtual vs. live Showcase
- Github update
- > Adjourn Joint DEV Meeting
Decisions/Issues:
- New Proposals
- DPI - Medical Device Interoperability Reference Architecture (MDIRA)
- Approved
- PCH D2C Work-item Brief Proposal [5]
- Approved
Action(s):
- Milestone process review
- Proposals distributed as needed to proceed, plus confirm Milestones dates.
- Spring meeting – assume virtual, select April dates after week of 5th.
- Send final list of Cochairs to IHE.
- DEV Cochairs – virtual vs. live Showcase
- Github update
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion:
- 09:05 > Introductions and Agenda Review (Kurt and Thom)
- Program Reports
- Presentations will be on the Google Driver.
- PCD -
- -
- - POU
- DPI
- -
- Next steps and wrap up
Adjourn Joint DEV Committee (PC)
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
Wednesday DEV PCD PC Meeting Summary
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - Kurt Elliason reviewed the IHE IP Management Process
- Introductions and Agenda Review
Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved
Action(s):
2 Discussion Summary or Approval of Minutes
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - Minutes approved
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion: - General PCD Work Program Review (statuses, plans only, details during TC sessions):
- - ACM (Rob W for Monroe P)
- - MEM DMC (Rob W for Monroe P)
- - MEM LS (Rob W for Monroe P)
- - WCM (Paul Schluter)
- - IDCO (Paul Schluter)
- - RTM (Paul Schluter)
- - Vent (Paul Schluter)
- - PIV (Jeff R)
- - Pump (Kurt, Jeff R.)
- - IPEC (Kurt)
- - PCIM (John R)
- - Physio monitor (John R)
- - DEC
- General update PCD TF) (John R)
- DEC OPTION: FHIR (Todd C)
- - EC (John R)
- - DCM Pulse Oximetry
- Currently waiting for someone to take it to FT.
- - Review current Action Item: PCD Planning Committee Action Items:
- None as of 8/10/2020
Adjourn PCD Planning Committee (PC)
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
Wednesday Joint PCD PC&TC Meeting Summary
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Action(s):
2 Discussion Summary
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - -
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion:
Joint PC&TC Meeting Adjourned
Decisions/Issues:Action(s):
- Cochair Action item - 106 - Activities Promoting PCD.
- Close, refer to Tiger Team and start as a DEV Action Item.
- Fall F2F
- DEV decision refer to Tiger Team
Thursday/Friday PCD TC Meeting Summary
- Action(s):
Item Topic Discussion 1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- ChairStatus/Discussion: Decisions/Issues:
- Agenda approved
- IHE IP Management Process
- Announcements –
- - Decision Making meeting (TC Co-Chairs)
Action(s):2 Discussion Summary
- ChairStatus/Discussion: - -
Decisions/Issues:
Action(s):
3 Agenda Items
-Status/Discussion: PCD Program review:
- F2F Action Review (from this week)
- PC
- PC&TC
.
- Spring F2F
- TC
- No Follow-up action for TC, most relevant are at DEV level.
TC Meeting Wrap up and Adjournment (Kowalczyk)
TC Meeting Adjourned
Decisions/Issues:
Action Items - PCD PC
The Action Items that follow and approved in subsequent committee meetings will be added to the committee Action Item page.
Action Items - PCD TC and WGs
The Action Items that follow and approved in subsequent committee meetings will be added to the committee Action Item page.
Next Meetings
DEV Domain Meeting:
Technical Committee:
Planning Committee: