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== 12:30 - 13:30 --- Lunch --- ==
== 12:30 - 13:30 --- Lunch --- ==
== 13:30 - 15:30 Pharmacy Medication List (PML) and alongside CPs ==
* Pharmacy Medication List (PML)
:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/IHE_Pharmacy_Suppl_PML_PC_2013-10-23.doc ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/IHE_Pharmacy_Suppl_PML_PC_2013-10-23.doc]
::* Latest change: Pharmaceutical Advice Entries can now also be included in the list
:* Prepare for Public Comment
:* New version created (with minor changes)
::* []
* Alongside CPs to PML
:* Introduce PML into CMPD
::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/CP-PHARM-056v4.doc ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/CP-PHARM-056v4.doc]
:* Further discussion
:* New version created (with minor changes)
::* []
* New alongside CPs to PML
:* Introduce or change meaning of <author> and <performer> elements in PRE, DIS and PADV in conjunction with PML
::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/CP-PHARM-060.doc ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/CP-PHARM-060.doc]
:* New version created (with minor changes)
::* []
:* Extend glossary with PML terms
::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/CP-PHARM-061.doc ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr5_2013-2014/Technical_Committee/Profiles/MedicationList/CP-PHARM-061.doc]
* Discussion
:* Michael Tan asks why not a message based approach has been chosen for Medication list
::* Netherlands, Canada, UK are message-based
:* Jürgen Brandstätter answers that this concept fits into the overal document based approach of CMPD and its content profiles (PRE, DIS, PADV)
::* Transactions and the on-demand document concept fit into IHE landscape perfectly
:* Solution
::* The already targeted second approach for CMPD (message-based, named CMPD.b) should be used for a consistent way to resolve that issue
::*
::* Problem: Lack of manpower in the group to work on CMPD.b
::* Problem does span over to PCC too, shall be discussed with PCC at joint meeting in Vienna 2014
* Decision for whole package
:* Put the whole package to Public Comment
:* Proactively try to get comments on that by peer to peer announcement
:* Wait for response to decide further proceeding





Revision as of 11:01, 30 October 2013

10:15 - 10:30 Welcome

  • Participants
  • Jürgen Brandstätter
  • Michael Tan
  • Leonidas Tzimis
  • Simon Letellier

By WebEx

  • Stephen Chu
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Marco Demarmels


  • Review and Approve Agenda
  • Agenda approved
  • Approval of minutes of TCon Oct 03, 2013
  • Approval of minutes of TCon Oct 10, 2013

10:30 - 11:00 Administrative tasks

  • Past season 2012/2013
  • Status of profile publishing
  • Published versions at []
  • Review Board Report
  • Report reviewed and approved. Will be submitted to DCC
  • []
  • Schedule 2013/2014


11:00 - 12:30 Medication Management

  • Work on document "Medication Management: Related Concepts and Definitions"
  • Discussion
  • Michael Tan: HL7 Pharmacy group seems to question this document. No contribution so far.
  • Jürgen Brandstätter: This work item requires a dedicated champion surrounded by a contributing team
  • Simon Letellier: External resource: "Medication and Standards Overview" of American Systems and Services LLC
  • []
  • Jose Costa Teixeira: Next step after "Medication Management" is the thinking of what to do with that.
  • Stephen Chu: Our work divides into the following three components:
  • 1) What concepts are relevant to constitute Medication Management
  • 2) What are the data and where does it come from
  • 3) How the data can and should be used
  • Decisions
  • IHE Pharmacy takes the lead on this document
  • Structured approach, working out of chapters will be distributed to contributors with deadlines
  • Working group
  • Leader: Michael Tan
  • Contributors: Stephen Chu, Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Followers: Leonidas Tzimis, Simon Letellier, Jürgen Brandstätter
  • HL7 will be asked for review and contribution at next HL7 Pharmacy meeting in Texas, Jan 2014

12:30 - 13:30 --- Lunch ---

13:30 - 15:30 Pharmacy Medication List (PML) and alongside CPs

  • Pharmacy Medication List (PML)
  • Latest change: Pharmaceutical Advice Entries can now also be included in the list
  • Prepare for Public Comment
  • New version created (with minor changes)
  • []


  • Alongside CPs to PML
  • Introduce PML into CMPD
  • Further discussion
  • New version created (with minor changes)
  • []


  • New alongside CPs to PML
  • Introduce or change meaning of <author> and <performer> elements in PRE, DIS and PADV in conjunction with PML
  • New version created (with minor changes)
  • []


  • Extend glossary with PML terms


  • Discussion
  • Michael Tan asks why not a message based approach has been chosen for Medication list
  • Netherlands, Canada, UK are message-based
  • Jürgen Brandstätter answers that this concept fits into the overal document based approach of CMPD and its content profiles (PRE, DIS, PADV)
  • Transactions and the on-demand document concept fit into IHE landscape perfectly
  • Solution
  • The already targeted second approach for CMPD (message-based, named CMPD.b) should be used for a consistent way to resolve that issue
  • Problem: Lack of manpower in the group to work on CMPD.b
  • Problem does span over to PCC too, shall be discussed with PCC at joint meeting in Vienna 2014
  • Decision for whole package
  • Put the whole package to Public Comment
  • Proactively try to get comments on that by peer to peer announcement
  • Wait for response to decide further proceeding



Pharmacy Technical Committee