Lab AP Conf Minutes 2015-Sept-08

 

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Carolyn Knapik	CAP
Francois Macary	<tbody> </tbody> ASIP Sante
Riki Merrick	APHL
John Hopson	Abbott
Naomi Ishii	JAHIS
Ed Heierman	Abbott
Dmytro Rudd	Roche
Benoit Denisselle
Christel Daniel	AP-HP
Joanna Selinsky	Beckman Coulter
James Harrison	CAP
Raj Dash, MD, FCAP	CAP
Alessandro Sulis	CRS4
Charles Parisot
Laurent Lardin	BioMerieux

Minutes

Joint activities

• Agenda Review:
• Timeslot for AP report progression:

• Still organizing getting together with the German colleagues – will aim for second hour of next month’s call or will send doodle– Note: October is the F2F visit in Tokyo
• German team has started to migrate the current revisions of APSR into Art Décor using a single AP observation template
• Ongoing effort to define top list of codes (for now PathLex codes to be migrated into LOINC) that can be used in CDA document – organ specific and general
• Next steps:
  • Working on PSR document – have not managed to meet with the art décor team to create the new = this is a little ahead of current
  • Take last release of APSR and migrate is as into Art Décor
  • Update the next update of APSR based on the agreed CP for now
• The choice of the committee is to first migrate the current APSR specification into Art Décor, and then evaluate the output. Second, a distinct project (introduced through the regular “supplement proposal” process of IHE) will be to reuse this base material to build the “PSR” project, in the scope of the merged domain.

• Update on Merger Voting (Carolyn Knapik)

• Tally from last Thursday: 8 yes, 1 no – voting ends 9/16, so please vote, if you haven’t done so already
• Quorum for just IHE Lab was 4 – Carolyn will get quorum requirements from Chris Carr, might be hard to figure out which domain some folks belong to, as they belong to both, but get only 1 vote

• Update on LCC (James Harrison)

• Nothing new to report

• Managing distributed review and editing within Art Décor

• Easy to represent the entry templates, but unsure about how to build  the larger value sets from SNOMED CT or LOINC – not specifically an issue for APSR, as the template has simple structure, but how to better represent the LOINC observation codes
• How far can we include SCT for value set generation – technical question:

• Building valuesets is possible in Art Décor – can be used to build from any reference terminology already loaded into the tool = ICD-10, LOINC, SCT (latest version of international)

• Would have to load PathLex into the tool, before we could use it to build out value sets based on PathLex
• Verify with German team
• Validate platform on clear scope of APSR first, then expand to PSR

• Prepare question(s) for Mary and Riki to present to board (Riki Merrick)

• Using Art décor as a publishing tool – what are the rules for changes and publication etc.
• How will Art Décor be connected to Gazelle tool for schematron – Eric has been working on a procedure to take the output of Art Décor and translate/ import into Gazelle tool (object checker – there is MOU between IHE Europe and Art Décor team)
• Where is the official instance of Art Décor for IHE?
  • US is using an instance of Art Décor for a profile and Gazelle team is using that same instance
  • Invite Eric to a next call to present the status of migration, possibly during the next face to face.
• Governance of Art Décor content?
• Feedback from DICOM Pathology meeting (Charles Parisot):
  • Reviewed the proposed merger between AP and Lab – interested in tracking that – DICOM AP is supportive of this process and will monitor
  • Plan for interoperability showcase(DICOM/IHE sponsored – working through the admin side of that) at May meeting of European College of Pathology in Berlin – workflow / including use of IHE profile – with possible repeat at CAP ‘16 in October – need more coordination
  • Review of scenarios for the interoperability showcase – will have to create multiple, more complex scenarios that will use more IHE content in the long run

• F2F meeting logistics (Naomi Ishii)

• 9/19 – 21 – 3 full days – 9 AM– 5 PM local time
• Recommended hotels – Naomi to send on September 9
• Have meeting venue at JAHIS at Shinbashi station

• LAW (Ed Heierman)
  • Status update:

• In progress on working with CLSI on creating the standard based on LAW – first draft due this month
• In process of collecting and creating final CPs prior to NA so that it can then be in TF (straightforward so far):
  • Handling of profile option identifier
  • Profile that should be optional on analyzer
  • LAB-28 message structure choices
  • OBX-4 usage
  • Pooling of specimen
  • Updatable / truncatable length
  • Tracing inventory segments to one or more OBXs
  • Minor edits to document
• LAW will be spotlighted for NA, also IICC will help with publicizing the NA connectathon t make this major testing event for LAW
• Gathering vendors for NA connectathon end of January 2016 in Cleveland
• For F2F hope to have all CPs reviewed and approved at end of the F2F in preparation for NA. We’ll allocate two time slots for this CP review during F2F.

• Technical Discussions
  • LSH (John Hopson)
    • Status

• Should have supplement for first use case by F2F
• 2 time slots reserved for LSH at F2F, on two separate days.

• So just 1 use case per Trial Implementation release - we have 1 year for testing and use case 1 MUST have enough interest of vendors to get proper testing – at least at NA, Europe and Japan connectathons

• Transactions

• Discuss HL7 Carrier/Tray Status Messages

• Message Structure
  • Have 3 specific transactions
  • Reviewing command and response:
• SAC segment where device identifies the specimen can be omitted – so changed usage in LSH.3 to RE
• Reviewing Chapter 13 – how do you communicate carrier and tray status to the automation manager – have specimen status and container status SAC-8 - can identify the tray / container, but nothing specifically to the status of the carrier / tray – ask Andrzej Knafel, main author of Chapter 13
• Type of statuses: complete processing, etc – Dmytro will draft suggestion for these new fields – John will provide the detail Dmytro would need to write up a CR for OO
• OO usually meets on Thursday 1 PM ET – Riki will let him know when it is on the agenda
• F2F meeting needs: 3-4 hours – may a 3 hour block plus 1 hour next day for follow up work?
• Who will attend October F2F in person?
• Dmytro via webex
• Alessandro in person
• Riki via webex only most likely
• Will send out draft agenda and an RSVP request to the list

Call adjourned  10:50 AM EDT