Pharm Tech Minutes 2012.02.02-03

Thursday, February 02.

Attendees

• Brandstätter, Jürgen (CodeWerk Software Services and Development GmbH, co-chair IHE)
• Cocchiglia, Arianna (Arsenal.IT)
• Demarmels, Marco (Lake Griffin, LLC)
• Géraud, Thierry (CareFusion)
• Hay, Christian (GS1, IHE Suisse)
• Letellier, Simon (EAHP)
• Robberecht, Marc (Agfa Healthcare)
• Surugue, Jacqueline (EAHP)
• Zalunardo, Luca (Arsenal.IT)
• Bourquard, Karima (IN-SYSTEM)
• Peytchev, Vassil (Epic)

By WebEx :

• Poiseau, Eric (INRIA)
• Lefebvre, Nicolas (INRIA)

10:15-10:30 Approvement of last minutes

• Approved

10:30-10:45 User co-chair election

• Current situation: 7 votes of of 13 for YES
• According to governance the election has to continue until Feb 8th, 2012
• Result will be published by email

10:45-13:00 CAT EU Bern

How to get additional vendors

• CMPD

• Basically same situation as last year
• Slightly improved by one additional vendor

• HMW

• Currently no testing possible
• Glintt and Solinfo from last year are not attending the CAT at all

• Should be contacted. Who?

• Dedalus is currently registering. Information from Dedalus: Will not test Pharmacy this year, will concentrate on other topics

• Possible reasons

• HMW actors shall be reviewed, if they demand too much transactions as "required"

• It shall evaluated, why the vendors stopped participating

• Possible vendors to contact

• McKesson

• Jacqueline: In France McKesson is active in Hospital Pharmacy, but the moment there is a propriety standard in place (PN13). Eric will send a contact to Jacqueline and Jürgen. Jacqueline will contact them.

• AGFA

• Marc: Currently focus on supply chain. Tries to push participation next year for HMW.

• CareFusion

• Thierry: Is on the dispensing side. Wait for CPOE vendors to attend. Maybe participation next year.

• Epic

• Vassil: Immediate interest is in communicating with robots (supply chain). Community Pharmacy depends on the amount of European customers. Currently no estimation for a participation at a CAT.

• Learnings for the future

• It's not reliable to expect past registrations to be continued
• Motivating vendors after end of registration is too late

• Inviting vendors for next CAT should be an ongoing activity

• Invite people on the CAT (during the CAT) to a workshop to anchorage them for next year
• Robots in Community is a pressing topic at the moment, this could be used as a positve momentum (because it saves money) -> should be considered for the Strategic planning and Roadmap

• Workshop at Bern

• Possible by using the VIP Guided Tour: max.90min Welcome+Room+Beamer + Walkaround CAT Area
• Pharmacy could use one of this slots for free

• Pharmacy dedicated VIP tour + Normal VIP tour + get in contact to others

• Date

• Thursday forenoon or during the F2F meeting

• How to get people there?

• CAT people per announcement at participants
• Pharmacy people per personal activating

• Next steps

• CAT vendors will be informed anyway and invited to a slot during our F2F (end of 2nd day)
• Evaluating if people from outside would come to such an event by group members - sum up next TCon and decision about further steps

Status Test descriptions and scripts

• Based on the registration this is lessened in priority now
• Eric: Gazelle is prepared for testing if needed

• also XDW (generic anyway, semantically for Pharmacy afterwards)

Agenda F2F meeting

• Postponed to TCon

• 13:00-13:30 --- Lunch ---

13:30-14:30 HMW Exceptional cases (Marc)

• CP-PHARM-xx1.doc, CP-PHARM-xx2 and CP-PHARM-xx3 have been set to status "Completed" and are ready to be balloted

• Uploaded at FTP at:

• ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/TF_Maintenance-2012/CPs/Completed/CP-PHARM-020.doc
• ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/TF_Maintenance-2012/CPs/Completed/CP-PHARM-021.doc
• ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/TF_Maintenance-2012/CPs/Completed/CP-PHARM-022.doc

• Ballot will be postponed until other completed CPs arrive
• More CPs to some other exceptional cases will be prepared by Marc and presented at the next TCon

14:30-15:30 Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)

• Editor changed from Jose/Simon to Marc/Simon
• Work item is approved
• Profile name discussion:

• Distribution and supply of medication and disposable
• Distribution and supply of healthcare products
• Distribution and supply of health products
• Distribution and supply of medicinal products
• Distribution and supply of pharmaceutical products
• Decision: "Distribution and supply of healthcare products"

• Cross-domain needed?

• PHAST (Franck will nominate person)
• GS1 (Christian Hay)

• Schedule for profile "Distribution and supply of healthcare products"

• TCon 2012.03.16: Volume 1 First draft
• TCon 2012.04.19: Volume 1 finalized
• F2F 2012.05.22-23: Volume 2 First draft
• TCon 2012.06.07: Volume 2 Last draft
• F2F 2012.06.19-20: Volume 1+2: Ready for public comment
• End of Jul 2012: Volume 1+2: Public comment completed
• End of Aug 2012: Volume 1+2: Ready for TI

• Uploaded at FTP at

• ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr3_2011-2012/Planning_Committee/IncomingProposals/IHE%20Pharmacy%20-%20Proposal%20Dispense%20v03.doc

15:30 - 16:30 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Marc, Simon)

• Discussion

• Is IHE Pharmacy legitimated to deal with that?

• Laboratory has generated a similar profile
• It might be in the focus of the proposed new domain "Healthcare Operations"

• Is that topic urgent and has to be processed this season or shall we wait to figure out the right host for it?

• Laboratory has created a profile to the similar profile

• Could be a template to pharmacy and would allow easy generation of the profile
• HL7v2 based

• Shared Value Set profile

• Webservice based, HL7v3

• Shall it scoped for Hospital only?

• This is an important topic in Community Pharmacy too
• If we decide for HL7v2 it should stay scoped on Hospital to allow Community doing different (e.g. SVS, HL7v3)

• Decision:

• Gathering more facts for decision making

• Marc gathers more details on how the profile would look like in the manner of Lab
• Jacqueline will call Jean-Christoph CAUVIN (Lab) to interview him about this
• Marco contacts Robert Horn for hints from the SVS side

• Decision at next TCon

16:45-17:30 Improvements in HMW for scope and error-fixing (Marc)

• Editor changed from Jose to Marc
• Processed the document and categorized the different bullets

• See FTP for notes: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr3_2011-2012/Planning_Committee/IncomingProposals/IHE%20Pharmacy%20-%20Proposal%20HMW%20Maintenance%20v02.doc

• CPs: Marc will provide them until next TCon
• Others: Marc will generate proposals after examination

17:30-18:00 Marketing USA

• HIMSS (Urgent)

• Jürgen will provide slide-set until Wed Feb. 8th, 2012
• Urgent review by group required
• Slide-set has to be final until Feb 21, 2012 latest

• NCPDP

• Covered by Scott, no new information

• HL7

• Covered by Scott/Tom
• Aviso by Christian:

• HL7 WG in May 6-10, 2013 in Bordeaux
• IHE will receive an invitation to do a Joint meeting

• Joint meeting with HL7 Pharmacy in June 2012 shall be planned urgently

• Discuss that with Tom tomorrow

• Academia in US

• Vanderbilt and Chapel Hill
• Covered by Marco
• No reaction -> will be discontinued

• American Society of Health Systems Pharmacists (ASHP)

• Contact: Karl Gumpper (Hospital Pharmacists, Coordinating the IT group of ASHP)

• He is on the Pharmacy list

• Jacqueline will contact him for appointing a meeting at HIMMS peer to peer with Jürgen

Other business

• Harmonizing profiles

• Decision: Jürgen for Community and Marc for Hospital will change all actor names to capital spelling:

• Prescription Placer
• Pharmaceutical Adviser
• Medication Dispenser
• ...

• Decision: Word "cancelling" or "cancelled") will be changed to one "l"

• following base standard HL7

• Information: New domain planned "Healthcare Operations"

• Deals with Supply/Logistics/Scheduling of resources
• Has contact points to work item "Distribution and supply of healthcare products"

• Marketing International

• Hospital section of International Federation of Pharmacy (FIP)

• Chaired by Jacqueline
• September 2013 in Dublin

• We could place 2 seminars about IHE Pharmacy, each 1.5h, 2-3 speakers, not paid

• 1 seminar very high level
• 1 a little bit more detailed

• Need to produce proposals for this urgently, deadline Feb 15, 2012

• Jacqueline will cover that
• Decision about selection in March 2012 soonest

• Report on decision by Jacqueline when available
• Detailed work afterwards