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Back to '''[[Pathology_and_Laboratory_Medicine_(PaLM) | IHE Pathology and Laboratory Medicine (PaLM) Domain]]'''
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==Recording==
==Recording==
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==Attendees==
==Attendees==
 
* Alessandro Sulis
 
* Francessca Vanzo
* Nicholas Jones
* Francesca CRS4 Frexia
* JD Nolen
* Jim Harrison
* Francois Macary
* Mandel Mickley
* Mario Villace
* Riki Merrick
* Dan Rutz
* David Clunie
* Raj Dash
* Gunter Haroske
* Haarselhorst van den Goorbergh


==Minutes==
==Minutes==


'''Agenda review'''
'''Francois reviewed the agenda'''
* IHE F2F in Helsinki in May – Mary checking to see if there is wifi; if so, a GoToMeeting will be set up.
* For the IHE F2F in Helsinki in May – Mary checking to see if there is wifi; if so, a GoToMeeting will be set up if there is.
* Chicago F2F – the logistics will be posted to the wiki; there are shuttles from the hotels to CAP; please RSVP if you plan on attending; there will be a GoToMeeting for the F2F
* Chicago F2F – the logistics will be posted to the wiki; there are shuttles from the hotels to CAP; please RSVP if you plan on attending; there will be a GoToMeeting for the F2F
* Next PaLM call will be rescheduled for May 23.  The second hour will be used to discuss technical aspects of the digital pathology work.
* Next PaLM call will be rescheduled for May 23.  The second hour will be used to discuss technical aspects of the digital pathology work.


'''DCC Update''' – SNOMED CT – IHE secretariat has reached back out to SNOMED International – Riki to review the list – Xavier sent a comparison to their organism list- some display name errors – those MUST be fixed; not matching the list – that is expected, because IHE PaLM is limited to reportable organism so far. We may have to reduce the subset to a smaller amount – so then we can use the prioritization to reduce the list, if needed
'''DCC Update''' – SNOMED CT – IHE secretariat has reached back out to SNOMED International – Riki to review the list – Xavier sent a comparison to their organism list- some display name errors – those MUST be fixed; not matching the list – that is expected, because IHE PaLM is limited to reportable organism so far. We may have to reduce the subset to a smaller amount – so then we can use the prioritization to reduce the list, if needed
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'''SET update'''
'''SET update'''
** Alessandro started a HL7 CR for new message structure
* Alessandro started a HL7 CR for new message structure
** Created HL7 mapping – see excel file for review
* Created HL7 mapping – see excel file for review
** HL7 has no deadlines for submission of Change requests
* HL7 has no deadlines for submission of Change requests
** How will this map to FHIR? Considered FHIR as a message standard to be used for SET – decided to use v2.x instead, because it is an event oriented standard.
* How will this map to FHIR? Considered FHIR as a message standard to be used for SET – decided to use v2.x instead, because it is an event oriented standard.
** For new elements should be included in the FHIR resources  
* For new elements should be included in the FHIR resources  
** How will this map to DICOM supplement 121 = Specimen container model?
* How will this map to DICOM supplement 121 = Specimen container model?
** FHIR have something like container?
* FHIR have something like container?
** Only in the definitional resources for catalog – specimen definition covers some. FHIR still has no way to cover the container instance
* Only in the definitional resources for catalog – specimen definition covers some. FHIR still has no way to cover the container instance
** SET has been using the specimen DAM – hope to get this published this month and then pick up work on FHIR
* SET has been using the specimen DAM – hope to get this published this month and then pick up work on FHIR
** Also consider the BRIDG model for harmonization = https://bridgmodel.nci.nih.gov/whats-bridg. Have ongoing work between BRIDG and IHE PaLM for APSR and Digital Pathology
* Also consider the BRIDG model for harmonization = https://bridgmodel.nci.nih.gov/whats-bridg. Have ongoing work between BRIDG and IHE PaLM for APSR and Digital Pathology
 


'''Digital Pathology update'''
'''Digital Pathology update'''
** Wiki use cases have been updated.  Need to focus on high level for descriptions so that non-technical people will understand the use cases. Have all use cases ready by next call.  
* Wiki use cases have been updated.  Need to focus on high level for descriptions so that non-technical people will understand the use cases. Have all use cases ready by next call.  
** Use the discussion tab to add any comments that will help us organize and discuss this.
* Use the discussion tab to add any comments that will help us organize and discuss this.
** We want to focus the technical aspects in Helsinki, so we want to gather as much info as possible – looking for solid paragraph for each use case.
* We want to focus the technical aspects in Helsinki, so we want to gather as much info as possible – looking for solid paragraph for each use case.
** For talk with WG26 focus on limited list of the use cases
* For talk with WG26 focus on limited list of the use cases
** Use case 0 = subpart for all slide scanner vendors to properly tag images that is applicable to ALL these use cases  = LIS to scanner connectivity = mostly use case #3
* Use case 0 = subpart for all slide scanner vendors to properly tag images that is applicable to ALL these use cases  = LIS to scanner connectivity = mostly use case #3
** Implementer eyeball to get feedback on use cases captured, but what is first logical deliverable to implement that applies to ALL use cases
* Implementer eyeball to get feedback on use cases captured, but what is first logical deliverable to implement that applies to ALL use cases
** EHR vendor is the workflow driver, so want to define the most important transactions on LIS side when using interface to image acquisition devices.
* EHR vendor is the workflow driver, so want to define the most important transactions on LIS side when using interface to image acquisition devices.
** Dan and JD are starting to flush out some of the technical aspects.
* Dan and JD are starting to flush out some of the technical aspects.
** The second hour of the next PaLM call will be devoted to looking at the technical aspects.
* The second hour of the next PaLM call will be devoted to looking at the technical aspects.

Latest revision as of 11:45, 3 August 2018

Back to IHE Pathology and Laboratory Medicine (PaLM) Domain

Back to IHE Pathology and Laboratory Medicine (PaLM)Technical Committee Page

Recording

Attendees

  • Alessandro Sulis
  • Francessca Vanzo
  • Nicholas Jones
  • Francesca CRS4 Frexia
  • JD Nolen
  • Jim Harrison
  • Francois Macary
  • Mandel Mickley
  • Mario Villace
  • Riki Merrick
  • Dan Rutz
  • David Clunie
  • Raj Dash
  • Gunter Haroske
  • Haarselhorst van den Goorbergh

Minutes

Francois reviewed the agenda

  • For the IHE F2F in Helsinki in May – Mary checking to see if there is wifi; if so, a GoToMeeting will be set up if there is.
  • Chicago F2F – the logistics will be posted to the wiki; there are shuttles from the hotels to CAP; please RSVP if you plan on attending; there will be a GoToMeeting for the F2F
  • Next PaLM call will be rescheduled for May 23. The second hour will be used to discuss technical aspects of the digital pathology work.


DCC Update – SNOMED CT – IHE secretariat has reached back out to SNOMED International – Riki to review the list – Xavier sent a comparison to their organism list- some display name errors – those MUST be fixed; not matching the list – that is expected, because IHE PaLM is limited to reportable organism so far. We may have to reduce the subset to a smaller amount – so then we can use the prioritization to reduce the list, if needed

LCC update – please review for next call

SET update

  • Alessandro started a HL7 CR for new message structure
  • Created HL7 mapping – see excel file for review
  • HL7 has no deadlines for submission of Change requests
  • How will this map to FHIR? Considered FHIR as a message standard to be used for SET – decided to use v2.x instead, because it is an event oriented standard.
  • For new elements should be included in the FHIR resources
  • How will this map to DICOM supplement 121 = Specimen container model?
  • FHIR have something like container?
  • Only in the definitional resources for catalog – specimen definition covers some. FHIR still has no way to cover the container instance
  • SET has been using the specimen DAM – hope to get this published this month and then pick up work on FHIR
  • Also consider the BRIDG model for harmonization = https://bridgmodel.nci.nih.gov/whats-bridg. Have ongoing work between BRIDG and IHE PaLM for APSR and Digital Pathology


Digital Pathology update

  • Wiki use cases have been updated. Need to focus on high level for descriptions so that non-technical people will understand the use cases. Have all use cases ready by next call.
  • Use the discussion tab to add any comments that will help us organize and discuss this.
  • We want to focus the technical aspects in Helsinki, so we want to gather as much info as possible – looking for solid paragraph for each use case.
  • For talk with WG26 focus on limited list of the use cases
  • Use case 0 = subpart for all slide scanner vendors to properly tag images that is applicable to ALL these use cases = LIS to scanner connectivity = mostly use case #3
  • Implementer eyeball to get feedback on use cases captured, but what is first logical deliverable to implement that applies to ALL use cases
  • EHR vendor is the workflow driver, so want to define the most important transactions on LIS side when using interface to image acquisition devices.
  • Dan and JD are starting to flush out some of the technical aspects.
  • The second hour of the next PaLM call will be devoted to looking at the technical aspects.
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