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<li>Raj sent communications to these – Leica, Roche, Philips, Inspirata, Sectra, OptraScan</li> | <li>Raj sent communications to these – Leica, Roche, Philips, Inspirata, Sectra, OptraScan</li> | ||
<li>NCI also interested in including AP/Digital Pathology in the BRIDG model for balloting at HL7/DICOM and ISO</li> | <li>NCI also interested in including AP/Digital Pathology in the BRIDG model for balloting at HL7/DICOM and ISO</li> | ||
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<li>Some structures better fit some events (like OML for “specimen collected”), and others better fit to other events such as shipping message structures for “specimen accepted”.</li> | <li>Some structures better fit some events (like OML for “specimen collected”), and others better fit to other events such as shipping message structures for “specimen accepted”.</li> | ||
<li>We have a choice to make between two paths:</li> | <li>We have a choice to make between two paths:</li> | ||
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+ | <li>Work with existing message structures from the base standard and pick as many as needed, but with clear one-to-one mapping from specimen event to message structure.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Build a new message structure suiting all SET event needs with HL7.</li> | ||
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+ | <li>Next call will give the facts and arguments of both ways, to facilitate the choice.</li> | ||
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Latest revision as of 10:58, 12 March 2018
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Recording
The recording for this meeting can be downloaded: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xnV6xNzdiS2Mn6V9sdQmp7l0iexrZPUN
Attendees
Francois Macary, Co-Chair | Phast |
Riki Merrick, Co-Chair | Vernetzt, LLC |
Raj Dash, Co-Chair | CAP |
Carolyn Knapik | CAP, secretariat |
Mary Kennedy | CAP, secretariat |
Alessandro Sulis | CRS4 |
Dan Rutz | Epic |
Don Hosseinzadeh | |
Filip Migom | MIPS |
Francesca Frexia | CRS4 |
Francesca Vanzo | Arsenal IT |
James Harrison | CAP |
JD Nolen | |
Joe Suintrapun | |
Jurgen De Decker | MIPS |
Mario Villace | Roche |
Megumi Kondo | Sakura Finetek Japan |
Philip Foulis | CAP |
Minutes
Agenda Reviewed and adjusted for content
First Hour:
- PaLM publication status (François)
- Have published APSR 2.0 Sept27 – Oct 27 – to be published Jan 25
- Had published TMA Oct 13 2017 – Nov 13 2017 – to be published Sep 2018
- LCC published for Comment Nov 29, 2017 to Jan 26, 2017 – to be published by Jun 2018
- Digital Pathology White paper to be published Feb 2018
- Next meeting dates:
- May 29, 2018 joint with DICOM WG 26 in Helsinki at Digital Pathology Meeting – and also will get 1 extra day for just PaLM
- F2F at CAP Headquarters June 19 – 21, 2018 or June 18-20, 2018
- F2F At JAHIS – will get suggestions for dates be end of the year
- Keep in mind that SNOMED International meeting is in Vancouver.
- CAP annual meeting October 22 – 23 and also not available October 11 -13
- Look at November 2018
- Updated examples on APSR 2 (François)
- Have added new feature to send updated report to reference what part of the content was changed (by section, not lower level) and if changes are clinically significant = created in Art décor, now working on example for that by next week
- Call for proposal announcement
- Open Dec to end of January – review in Feb call
- Review IHE PaLM annual board report (see File:20171213 IHE PaLM DomainReport.docx )
- Call planning proposed schedule for second hour:
- Jan 10: Digital Pathology
- Feb 14: LCC comment review, SET
- Mar 14: TMA
- Apr 11: Digital Pathology
- May 9: Digital Pathology
- Jun: F2F meeting
- Digital Pathology (Raj)
- Reviewing White paper draft (track changes on):
- Change scope to Digital Medicine to make broader (EDM)
- Some additional audience
- Definition of Anatomic Pathology needs to be expanded (Pathologist to do)
- Result in EDM – the report or the digital asset or both?
- Result = report should be handled by APSR and other profiles
- Digital asset here and then define profiles
- Analytics on top of the digital asset, where the digital asset is treated like the specimen = stand-alone result in a report, when outside of the AP lab vs component inside the lab may get different treatment
- Any result reported outside of the filler lab should be part of report
- Need to add to ILW to support digital pathology specific data elements
- Do we need APW middleware workflow – AP and tracking in automation (Leica/Ventana?) => Raj and JD to draft
- More detail in histologic events
- Parents for digital assets
- In general from single patient for all derivatives
- Tissue marker array (DICOM has use case, since multiple different tissue types from multiple patients on single slide)
- Open issue, because this may be more for research than direct care provision / need to look at the specimen model in HL7 DAM and DICOM
- Donor tissue review = also as open issue
- Environmental testing (public health outbreak testing
- Add legacy images as a use case
- Raj will draft responses to additions and share this among the authors
- Select the sections you want to work on
- DICOM has asked if we know vendors that will attend the joint meeting with DICOM – reach out to your contacts to attend the meeting in Jun
- Roche is working on getting contacts from Ventana – Raj to connect with Mario about who they are working with and join forces
- Need to finalize agenda for June meeting and send request for participation
- Mary has been contacting Clarista pathologists – include Dan R so that can be coordinated
- Dan CICOM Co-Chair (May 29 in PM for joint meeting)
- UPMC started digital pathology reference lab – Inspirata / solutions vendor
- Raj sent communications to these – Leica, Roche, Philips, Inspirata, Sectra, OptraScan
- NCI also interested in including AP/Digital Pathology in the BRIDG model for balloting at HL7/DICOM and ISO
Second hour: An extra quarter taken on second hour with SET discussion led by Alessandro
- SET (Alessandro)
- Thirst gap analysis of the base standard HL7 v2 to select the best suited message structures.
- Some structures better fit some events (like OML for “specimen collected”), and others better fit to other events such as shipping message structures for “specimen accepted”.
- We have a choice to make between two paths:
- Work with existing message structures from the base standard and pick as many as needed, but with clear one-to-one mapping from specimen event to message structure.
- Build a new message structure suiting all SET event needs with HL7.
- Next call will give the facts and arguments of both ways, to facilitate the choice.
Next PaLM Teleconference scheduled for 10 January, 2018.