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− | <p><strong>Agenda | + | <p><strong>Agenda review</strong></p> |
+ | <p>1st hour (timing indicative, to be adjusted by each topic leader)</p> | ||
+ | <p>Update on cochair election preparation (5’) – Mary and Carolyn</p> | ||
+ | <p>Status of PaLM TF (2’) – François</p> | ||
+ | <p>PaLM OID registry (3’) – François</p> | ||
+ | <p>PaLM webinar reminder and readiness (5’) – Riki</p> | ||
+ | <p>LSH review and first feedback (25’) –reschedule for August 10 teleconference</p> | ||
+ | <p>SET update (15’) – Alessandro</p> | ||
+ | <p>LCC update (5’) – Jim & Riki</p> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p>2nd hour – may start early</p> | ||
+ | <p>The APSR 2.0 / ART-DÉCOR show by the German team (60’) – Gunter et al.</p> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
<p><strong> </strong></p> | <p><strong> </strong></p> | ||
− | <p><strong>PaLM | + | <p><strong>Co-Chair election</strong> </p> |
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Yoshimi would like to remain Co-Chair for PaLM.</li> | ||
+ | <li>1 planning co-chair (Riki) and 1 technical co-chair (Francois) up for election.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Notice for request for nominations (can be self-nominating) will go out this week.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Deadline for nominations is July 31<sup>st</sup>.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Election will be held August –October.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Election results will be reported at the F2F in November.</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>PaLM TF Status</strong></p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Published July 5, 2016 - is fully aligned with the new IHE publication template</li> | ||
+ | <li>Still have existing profiles for Trial Implementation – available in former domains | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>When we update they will migrate over to the new domain</li> | ||
+ | <li>First profile to be migrated is APSR v2.0</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>PaLM OID registry</strong>: <a href="http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/OID_Registration">http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/OID_Registration</a></p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>PaLM has 2 OID roots: one from AP and one from Lab</li> | ||
+ | <li>We own these roots, from here we can assign OIDs we need – example for CDA template IDs, example IDs, vocabulary: code systems and valuesets</li> | ||
+ | <li>If OIDs exist, like for SCT / LOINC, we use existing OIDs and will not assign new ones</li> | ||
+ | <li>Leveraging use of SCT? – will include in consideration for creation of value sets</li> | ||
+ | <li>PaLM specific OIDs are kept here: <a href="ftp://ftp.ihe.net/PaLM/OIDregistry/">ftp://ftp.ihe.net/PaLM/OIDregistry/</a></li> | ||
+ | <li>Should we keep using the AP OID, or just use one for lab = we will define a single OID for artifacts – does not matter what OID we use</li> | ||
+ | <li>Once an OID is built, do not assign meaning to the numbers</li> | ||
+ | <li>SDC call later today – can we use OIDs rather than GUIDs for that – Raj and Ross will assign</li> | ||
+ | <li>XD-Lab is also in Art décor – Tony Schaller, Kai Heitman in collaboration Gazelle team added it | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>These are on a different server with no access for us</li> | ||
+ | <li>Currently working on getting that issue resolved</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>PaLM webinar review</strong>:</p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Have added the AP profile information </li> | ||
+ | <li>Need to update the new projects –</li> | ||
+ | <li>Finished slides to be reviewed by Francois, Mary, Raj, and Francesca V</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>SET update:</strong></p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Just completed the updating actor diagrams</li> | ||
+ | <li>Specimen collection - specimen transport between places in same institutions, and specimen transport between different institutions</li> | ||
+ | <li>Cataloging all events that need to be tracked – vocabulary question: DAM model allows use of status code element (= specimen state) – how can we assign vocabulary to that element – will that be part of the DAM? DAM is working at identifying appropriate vocabulary, but does not do specific binding to single code system / value set</li> | ||
+ | <li>Will identify the status codes needed and then try to find codes for all</li> | ||
+ | <li>Bio-banking: do we have documents that can help build a use case? | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Riki will find the notes from the HL7 specimen call – normally protocol dependent</li> | ||
+ | <li>Raj may have some diagrams that depict examples of the requirements</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>LCC</strong>:</p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Have submitted 5 harmonization proposals | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Three were accepted yesterday</li> | ||
+ | <li>Call today to discuss the other two</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | <li>After harmonization, then write up the CRs to support LAB | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>7 for the new messages structure that includes the REL segment in an OML message</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>Next call</strong> is Aug 10, 2016 – DICOM folks will be attending.</p> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>Face to Face</strong> is set for 11/7 – 11/9/2016 at CAP headquarters in Chicago – DICOM WG invitation has been sent</p> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>APSR 2.0 in Art Decor:</strong></p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Use this link to connect to art-décor: <a href="http://art-decor.org/art-decor/decor-project--psr-">http://art-decor.org/art-decor/decor-project--psr-</a> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Select “Templates” tab near top of screen</li> | ||
+ | <li>Select “Anatomic Pathology Structured Report”</li> | ||
+ | <li>Includes TNM staging module from Germany – is on wiki – Art Décor template is linked to the wiki</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | <li>First look at the reference document – need to update all LabTF references to PaLM TF for example</li> | ||
+ | <li>On wiki we create the final version of the document to be published; try to keep as much of the explanations in the template, except for long</li> | ||
+ | <li>For new templates we need new OIDs – where we have incorrect OIDs we cannot copy those over to the wiki – need to review those</li> | ||
+ | <li>Resend links to the Co-Chairs and volunteers</li> | ||
+ | <li>Use this link to get to the APSR 2.0 page of the “German wiki” | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li><a href="http://wiki.hl7.de/index.php?title=cdapath:Einleitung">http://wiki.hl7.de/index.php?title=cdapath:Einleitung</a></li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </li> | ||
+ | <li>Chris Carr has released the IHE OID list – we should keep all OIDs in one place – see OID registry topic above – OIDs for APSR are in red in the spreadsheet</li> | ||
+ | <li>Francois talked with Kai and Gunther about that last week – Gunther already has added a few OIDs to Art Décor – APSR team owns the spreadsheet for now</li> | ||
+ | <li>All can access art décor for review – can send annotations, but for folks who want to edit, can get log in access to art décor – can also edit the wiki page, if needed for the background text</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p><strong> </strong></p> | ||
+ | <p><strong>Art Decor demo</strong>:</p> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Datasets – construct the data we want to convey; linking the template and terminology against each other – link value sets to specific element – link to the template where used</li> | ||
+ | <li>Terminology – view of value sets – with metadata for each value set / have SCT, as well as other code systems to create valuesets</li> | ||
+ | <li>Templates – overview of main template hierarchy (document / header / sections / entries)</li> | ||
+ | <li>How should we add some of the changes that need to be made – is there a way to annotate – for example adding another pathologist as author for specific sections – as long as the changes are supported by the underlying standard – depending if a pathologist writes the whole report it is in header as author, otherwise it will be only at the section level</li> | ||
+ | <li>Transcriptionist = author, pathologist = legal authenticator – we need to specify what each of the CDA roles mean for the PSR</li> | ||
+ | <li>It is helpful to include the RIM model for the sections we need to better understand why and how the section is put together – that would be on the wiki.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Best approach for now: review and send email with questions / comments and then set up calls to discuss and then made edits after that</li> | ||
+ | <li>On wiki include a sample report of a pathology report – Raj to share</li> | ||
+ | <li>Currently have not done the binding to the datasets at this time – once completed will list multiple places in the future – we can describe that in the dataset where we can see the pathologist in the PSR – as the main author or author or authenticator, etc.</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <p> </p> | ||
+ | <p>Call adjourned 10:55 PM EST</p> |
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Recording
The recording for this meeting can be downloaded here:
Attendees
Francois Macary | Phast |
Carolyn Knapik | CAP, secretariet |
Benoit Denisselle | Beckman Coulter |
James Harrison | CAP |
Raj Dash | CAP |
Riki Merrick | APHL |
Mary Kennedy | CAP, secretariat |
Alessandro Sulis | CRS4 |
Daniel Mancusi | Systelab |
Jurgen de Decker | MIPS |
Dan Rutz | Epic |
Dmytro Rud | Roche |
Francesca Frexia | CRS4 |
Francesca Vanzo | Arsenal IT |
Frank Oemig | AGFA |
Gunter Haroske | IHE Germany |
Megumi Kondo | Sakura Finetek Japan |
Ross Simpson | CAP |
Rich Moldwin | CAP |
Sam Spencer | CAP |
George Birdsong | CAP |
Minutes
Agenda review
1st hour (timing indicative, to be adjusted by each topic leader)
Update on cochair election preparation (5’) – Mary and Carolyn
Status of PaLM TF (2’) – François
PaLM OID registry (3’) – François
PaLM webinar reminder and readiness (5’) – Riki
LSH review and first feedback (25’) –reschedule for August 10 teleconference
SET update (15’) – Alessandro
LCC update (5’) – Jim & Riki
2nd hour – may start early
The APSR 2.0 / ART-DÉCOR show by the German team (60’) – Gunter et al.
Co-Chair election
- Yoshimi would like to remain Co-Chair for PaLM.
- 1 planning co-chair (Riki) and 1 technical co-chair (Francois) up for election.
- Notice for request for nominations (can be self-nominating) will go out this week.
- Deadline for nominations is July 31st.
- Election will be held August –October.
- Election results will be reported at the F2F in November.
PaLM TF Status
- Published July 5, 2016 - is fully aligned with the new IHE publication template
- Still have existing profiles for Trial Implementation – available in former domains
- When we update they will migrate over to the new domain
- First profile to be migrated is APSR v2.0
PaLM OID registry: <a href="http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/OID_Registration">http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/OID_Registration</a>
- PaLM has 2 OID roots: one from AP and one from Lab
- We own these roots, from here we can assign OIDs we need – example for CDA template IDs, example IDs, vocabulary: code systems and valuesets
- If OIDs exist, like for SCT / LOINC, we use existing OIDs and will not assign new ones
- Leveraging use of SCT? – will include in consideration for creation of value sets
- PaLM specific OIDs are kept here: <a href="ftp://ftp.ihe.net/PaLM/OIDregistry/">ftp://ftp.ihe.net/PaLM/OIDregistry/</a>
- Should we keep using the AP OID, or just use one for lab = we will define a single OID for artifacts – does not matter what OID we use
- Once an OID is built, do not assign meaning to the numbers
- SDC call later today – can we use OIDs rather than GUIDs for that – Raj and Ross will assign
- XD-Lab is also in Art décor – Tony Schaller, Kai Heitman in collaboration Gazelle team added it
- These are on a different server with no access for us
- Currently working on getting that issue resolved
PaLM webinar review:
- Have added the AP profile information
- Need to update the new projects –
- Finished slides to be reviewed by Francois, Mary, Raj, and Francesca V
SET update:
- Just completed the updating actor diagrams
- Specimen collection - specimen transport between places in same institutions, and specimen transport between different institutions
- Cataloging all events that need to be tracked – vocabulary question: DAM model allows use of status code element (= specimen state) – how can we assign vocabulary to that element – will that be part of the DAM? DAM is working at identifying appropriate vocabulary, but does not do specific binding to single code system / value set
- Will identify the status codes needed and then try to find codes for all
- Bio-banking: do we have documents that can help build a use case?
- Riki will find the notes from the HL7 specimen call – normally protocol dependent
- Raj may have some diagrams that depict examples of the requirements
LCC:
- Have submitted 5 harmonization proposals
- Three were accepted yesterday
- Call today to discuss the other two
- After harmonization, then write up the CRs to support LAB
- 7 for the new messages structure that includes the REL segment in an OML message
Next call is Aug 10, 2016 – DICOM folks will be attending.
Face to Face is set for 11/7 – 11/9/2016 at CAP headquarters in Chicago – DICOM WG invitation has been sent
APSR 2.0 in Art Decor:
- Use this link to connect to art-décor: <a href="http://art-decor.org/art-decor/decor-project--psr-">http://art-decor.org/art-decor/decor-project--psr-</a>
- Select “Templates” tab near top of screen
- Select “Anatomic Pathology Structured Report”
- Includes TNM staging module from Germany – is on wiki – Art Décor template is linked to the wiki
- First look at the reference document – need to update all LabTF references to PaLM TF for example
- On wiki we create the final version of the document to be published; try to keep as much of the explanations in the template, except for long
- For new templates we need new OIDs – where we have incorrect OIDs we cannot copy those over to the wiki – need to review those
- Resend links to the Co-Chairs and volunteers
- Use this link to get to the APSR 2.0 page of the “German wiki”
- Chris Carr has released the IHE OID list – we should keep all OIDs in one place – see OID registry topic above – OIDs for APSR are in red in the spreadsheet
- Francois talked with Kai and Gunther about that last week – Gunther already has added a few OIDs to Art Décor – APSR team owns the spreadsheet for now
- All can access art décor for review – can send annotations, but for folks who want to edit, can get log in access to art décor – can also edit the wiki page, if needed for the background text
Art Decor demo:
- Datasets – construct the data we want to convey; linking the template and terminology against each other – link value sets to specific element – link to the template where used
- Terminology – view of value sets – with metadata for each value set / have SCT, as well as other code systems to create valuesets
- Templates – overview of main template hierarchy (document / header / sections / entries)
- How should we add some of the changes that need to be made – is there a way to annotate – for example adding another pathologist as author for specific sections – as long as the changes are supported by the underlying standard – depending if a pathologist writes the whole report it is in header as author, otherwise it will be only at the section level
- Transcriptionist = author, pathologist = legal authenticator – we need to specify what each of the CDA roles mean for the PSR
- It is helpful to include the RIM model for the sections we need to better understand why and how the section is put together – that would be on the wiki.
- Best approach for now: review and send email with questions / comments and then set up calls to discuss and then made edits after that
- On wiki include a sample report of a pathology report – Raj to share
- Currently have not done the binding to the datasets at this time – once completed will list multiple places in the future – we can describe that in the dataset where we can see the pathologist in the PSR – as the main author or author or authenticator, etc.
Call adjourned 10:55 PM EST