ITI CPs 2014-01-16

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ITI domain CPs for 2013-2014 are managed here: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=ITI_Change_Proposals_2014

This page contains the agenda and minutes for the Jan 16, 2014 meeting.

Jan -16-2014

9-11am Central US

Agenda

(0) Current status spreadsheet: dated 2013-12-19 is here: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/Status/

(1) Assigned CPs ready for review: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • CP-ITI-655-04 - (Marek / Mark S) Modify field predicate logic for conditional fields PID-29, 30 Patient Death of IHE PAM (discussion deferred from 12/16 call)
  • CP-ITI-699-00 - (Rob) Fix RFC-3881 Instructions (discussion deferred from 12/16 call)
  • CP-ITI-711-03 - (Karen) - Add limitedMetadata attribute to optionality table
  • CP-ITI-723-01 - (Karen) - Update Vol 3 content of on-demand & Metadata Update
  • IHE_ITI_Suppl_XDS_Metadata_Update_Rev1.3_TI_2013-10-25-notesfor723.doc – (Karen) - notes for discussion about metadata update
  • CP-ITI-615-02 - (Walco) DSUB Remove SubscriptionId from all transactions
  • CP-ITI-630-02 - (Walco) XTN data type should be more specific

(2) Incoming CP review: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/0_Incoming/

  • CP-ITI-ES-Add referenceId attribute optionality.doc -- Karen will include this change in CP-ITI-711
  • CP-ITI-ES-Clarify query attribute optionality-RESUBMITTED.doc
  • bill-vol1-doc-src.doc
  • bill-vol1-folders.doc
  • CP-ITI-formatCode-doc
  • CP-ITI-GL-DeprecateSignByReplacement.doc

(3) Old CPs - Motion to cancel these assigned CPs (deferred from 12/19 call)

  • CP-ITI-496 (John M) - ATNA secure communications option
    • I am unsure that this is still wanted. It is also a very radical change that would affect “IHE Integration Statements”, be even worse for Gazelle. Given that this is many years old. I think it might be best to cancel it and see if it comes back up again. Reality is that today this is happening through non-stated means. Not a great idea, but reality. I think a solution that would be more accepted would be to write a new profile that was just the audit logging. I would rather see that submitted as a profile proposal. It might be one as small as CT. But it would likely get to what people want (audit without mandatory secure-communications). – Motion to cancel
  • CP-ITI-514 (John M) - Correct conflict in node authentication requirements
    • I think we solved this a long time ago with other broad ATNA rewrites. I certainly don’t think I could track down the meaning of the comments in the CP document. – Motion to cancel
  • CP-ITI-581 (John M) - Correct DSUB audit messages
    • this seems to want us to take the current ITI-18 audit log messages and make them DSUB. But DSUB is not the same thing as ITI-18. I think the current DSUB audit messages are appropriate, and would not agree with the CP. Motion to cancel.
  • CP-ITI-712-06 (Karen) - Clarify "optional" metadata on submission
    • documenting the actions of submission responding actors should be done with the transactions - Motion to cancel
  • CP-ITI-689 - (Walco)
    • is now covered by the schema in DICOM part 15 (PurposeOfUse has a defined place and multiplicity) - Motion to cancel

(4) Coming next...

  • Thu Feb 6 - CP call
  • Fri Feb 7 - Ballot #20 comments due
  • Thu Feb 20 - CP call - primary agenda is to review ballot comments

Minutes

Attendees: John M, Karen, Marek V, Mark S, Walco, Elliott L, Elliot S, Dave P, Erik P, Gila, Lynn

(0) Status spreadsheet, updated based on this call: dated 2014-01-16 is here: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/Status/

(1) Assigned CPs reviewed: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • CP-ITI-711-03 - (Karen) - Add limitedMetadata attribute to optionality table
    • Karen provided an overview and discussion with John Moehrke surrounding overview occurred - John agreed to withdraw any concerns at this time
    • Accepted for Ballot 21
  • CP-ITI-655-04 - (Marek / Mark S) Modify field predicate logic for conditional fields PID-29, 30 Patient Death of IHE PAM (discussion deferred from 12/16 call)-
    • Marek reviewed PID changes for Patient Death and Time and Patient Death Indicator
    • Elliot S asked clarifying questions on the PID changes to understand how PID-29 and PID-30 would be populated - Elliot S also requested clarification on use of the word "optional" in association with termination of patient encounter
    • Guidance may be needed for how to populate PID-29 and PID-30 and Lynn suggested we do an offline discussion
    • Current proposed language is PID-29 SHALL not be populated in all other cases besides termination of the patient encounter by patient's death
    • Accepted for Ballot 21 (the proposed language will be reformulated in another change proposal)
  • CP-ITI-699-00 - (Rob) Fix RFC-3881 Instructions (discussion deferred to future call)
    • Rob requested to defer discussion due to scope of work to the next CP call
  • CP-ITI-723-01 - (Karen) - Update Vol 3 content of on-demand & Metadata Update
    • Karen provided an overview on the proposal and the changes that were made - deleting and adding sections to the supplement, including actor/transaction pairs
    • Updates to XDSDocumentTypesEntry section were suggested - additional updates for stable and on-demand document entry were requested
    • Lynn requested that Karen include ODD document markup due to the large number of sections that were deleted and added
  • IHE_ITI_Suppl_XDS_Metadata_Update_Rev1.3_TI_2013-10-25-notesfor723.doc – (Karen) - notes for discussion about metadata update - the scope of the changes to MU will be broken out of this CP; new CP-ITI-740 assigned to Karen will handle MU updates; 723 is for the ODD supplement
    • Discussion of Table 4.12 in IHE Technical Framework - noted discrepancies in the table and Karen expressed concern she could not resolve all the technical aspects to make the changes
    • 723 is still being worked on by Karen as a CP - a separate CP number will be sent to Karen by Lynn for metadata
    • Lynn suggested we do a small workgroup to resolve questions on the metadata update section - recommended time for the workgroup will be in early February to Connectathon
  • CP-ITI-615-02 - (Walco) DSUB remove SubscriptionID from all transactions
    • Accepted for Ballot 21
  • CP-ITI-630-02 - (Walco) XTN data type should be more specific
    • Walco reviewed changes - Rob reviewed the tables that were updated in the CP to compare them to HL7 and Karen added comments surrounding the rationale for the change
    • will remain assigned

(2)Old CPs - proposal to move to cancelled status

  • CP-ITI-496 (John M) - ATNA secure communications option
    • Discussion deferred as John dropped off
  • CP-ITI-514 (John M) - Correct conflict in node authentication requirements
    • Discussion deferred as John dropped off
  • CP-ITI-581 (John M) - Correct DSUB audit messages
    • Discussion deferred as John dropped off
  • CP-ITI-712-06 (Karen) - Clarify "optional" metadata on submission
    • Motion to cancel was brought up by Lynn and Karen seconds for removal due to CP 711 - Elliot concurred
  • CP-ITI-689 - (Walco)
    • Motion to cancel was brought up by Walco and seconded by Rob Horn - Lynn noted status of CP changed to cancelled

(3) Incoming CP review: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/0_Incoming/

  • CP-ITI-ES-Add referenceId attribute optionality.doc
    • Karen suggested this be merged with CP 711 due to the fact this is the query/response - Karen will take this on as a to-do and merge the incoming and CP 711-04
  • CP-ITI-ES-Clarify query attribute optionality-RESUBMITTED.doc
    • Discussion of the 2 cases in the incoming CP with Karen - the proposed resolution was to withdraw this CP again
  • bill-vol1-doc-src.doc
    • Discussion deferred as Bill was not on the phone
  • bill-vol1-folders.doc
    • Discussion deferred as Bill was not on the phone
  • CP-ITI-formatCode-doc
    • Accepted - assign CP number 739 to John; discussion deferred as John was not on the phone
  • CP-ITI-GL-DeprecateSignByReplacement.doc
    • Accepted - assign CP number 738 to Rob; further discussion - Rob expressed initial objections

(4) Upcoming Agenda Items

  • Bill Majurski incoming CPs that were deferred
  • John Moehrke move to cancel CPs that were deferred
  • Rob Horn - CP-ITI-699
  • Karen noted that additional discussion was needed on the HPD-related CPs (approved by HPD Implementors list)
    • Karen will not be available on next call or F2F but a time will be determined to ensure Eric and Karen will be in attendance