ITI Agenda 2018-2019 February 2019 F2F
This 5-days meeting is focused on a review of the first draft of work-items selected on November. The primary goal is to complete at least vol.1 content for each new work-item, but in some cases the Technical committee will be able also to issue a public comment version for some profiles. Due to the agreed scheduling the Release 4 updates have been published in public comment on January, so the goal for them will be the review of comments received.
Finally: starting from this year we are experimenting a continuous development process (as agreed by TC and PC in November) so on Friday we will review the prioritization list of proposals submitted in October and we will decide if the TC can start the work on some of them.
- Meeting Location
- RSNA Building, Oak Brook, IL
- WebEx information for this meeting is
- Meeting Number: 929 136 093
- Password: Meeting1
- Link: https://himss.webex.com/himss/j.php?MTID=m32f977a6dddad4774af8bd3d5b2e5726
- Support material
- Profile proposals and other support information may be found in the [1]
Agenda & Minutes
All times listed are tentative, and may be revised during the meeting—refresh often.
Monday, 25th February, 2019
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — |
8:30 am–8:45 am | Umberto/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review
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Participants: Mauro Zanardini (Arsenal) Charles Parisot (InteropEHealth - GE) John Moehrke (byLight) Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare) Luke Duncan (IntraHealth) Ben Levy (Corepoint Health) Chris Melo (Philips) George Dixon (Allscripts) Lynn Felhofer (ITI Tech manager) Umberto Cappellini (Grapevine) Sylvie Colas (ASIP) Joe Lamy (AEGIS- SSA) Spencer LaGesse (Epic) Steve Nichols (GE) Vassil Peytchev (Epic) Matt Blackmon (Sequoia) Tarik Idris (ICW) Daniel Berenzeanu (ReadyComputing) Keith Boone (Audacious Inquiry)
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8:45 am–10:45 am | Luke Duncan | Facilities and Hierarchies in FHIR |
Minutes: Charles asked to describe in detail the goal of the work-item. The Solution proposed deals with two issues:
Next steps for the work-item: Luke will put toghether suggestions , define an outline about how it can be done, during the next sessions we will evaluate available solutions. Luke has proposed for discussion the following options: an organization-hierarchy extension, or different usages of the OrganizationAffiliation, Group, Linkage, HealthcareService and Contract resources.
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10:45 am–11:00 am | — | Morning Break | — |
11:00 am–12:30 am | Joe Lamy | XCA Deferred Option |
Minutes: The ITI Tech evaluated different technical options during the past months : DSUB , XCA like XCPD , DSUB + XDW, WS-Async option (there is not Ack from the application layer) , AS4 Async Option (does not cover long latencies as defined in a dedicated Closed Issue of AS4). XDR + XDW it’s really complex. FHIR subscription model (it seems that the triggering event is an issue like in dsub).
During the session, the ITI Tesch Reviewed vol1 content. The intent for tomorrow: go through technical decisions 1 by 1.
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12:30 am–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — |
1:30 pm–3:15 pm | John | Review PC for FHIR Release 4 |
Minutes: PC resolution. Documents can be found on gitHub GITHUB and the comment resolution spreadsheet can be found here: SPREADSHEET
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3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — | Afternoon Break | — |
3:30 pm–5:30 pm | Daniel/Derek | FHIR Patient Feed (aka "The Derek Project") |
Minutes: Address Merge now or waiting for the FHIR WG which is dealing with the topic for R5 (expected to be published in Q3 2020 - https://onfhir.hl7.org/2019/01/20/fhir-r5-roadmap/ ) ? Draft of the supplement:
The mix between PDQ and PIX is risky. Question about the scope: we want to deal with cross-enterprise o single domain use-cases ?
Daniel to rework the transactions and actors as a basis for tomorrow’s discussion.
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5:30 pm–5:45 pm | Mauro/Umberto | Wrap-up and Homework
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Minutes:
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Tuesday, 26th February, 2019
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — |
8:30 am–8:45 am | Umberto/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review |
Participants: Mauro Zanardini (Arsenal) John Moehrke (byLight) Luke Duncan (IntraHealth) Lynn Felhofer (ITI Tech manager) Umberto Cappellini (Grapevine) Sylvie Colas (ASIP) Gregorio Canal (Arsenal) Joe Lamy (AEGIS- SSA) Matt Blackmon (Sequoia) Ben Levy (corepoint Health) Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare) Charles PArisot () Chris Melo (Philips) Vassil Peytchev (EPIC) Spencer LaGesse (Epic) Steve Nichols (GE) Tarik Idris (ICW) Matt Blackmon (Sequoia) Daniel Berenzeanu (readyComputing)
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8:45 am–10:00 am | Luke Duncan | Facilities and Hierarchies in FHIR |
Minutes: We reviewed different options in order to fullfill the multiple hierarchies use-case. The explored solutions are: List /OrganizationAffiliation / Extension that seem to be the most simple/applicable solutions. The cmte agreed that this work-item will also incluce mCSD updates related to the revision of the named options that now are creating complexity both for vendors and for tech spec mantainance (if we need to create new option , we need to deal with all the combinations of the existing options). The result of the review will be that servers are supposed to support all the resources. About hierarchies management use-case: the cmte propose to analyze in detail the solution based on a extension of the organization resource. This will allow us to use the search parameters defined as a standard extension ABOVE and BELOW. This will make things really more easy for the client side. Luke will update the document in order to go through a line by line reading tomorrow. |
10:00 am–10:45 am | John | FHIR Release 4 Updates | Minute:: continuation of PC review related to MHD supplement. |
10:45 am–11:00 am | — | Morning Break | — |
11:00 am–12:30 am | Daniel | FHIR Patient Feed (aka "The Derek Project") |
Minutes: Daniel searched for consensus on the actor-transaction diagram in order to have a clear technical approach to follow and in order to have a clear set of functionalities supported by the work-item. The presentation used to explore different possibilities che can be found at this link: presentation. Discussion is on whether go for a simplified 2 actors, 1 transaction approach, or go for a more comprehensive solution such as adding a PIX Feed transaction to PIXm, and to create a new profile for demographics. Publish/Subscribe may be left for a future extension of the profile (as we don’t know if we have time to address that this week). Also, discussion open about using 1 transaction for both PIX and Demographics, or 2 different transactions. Daniel will try to have some content published on FTP by tomorrow afternoon.
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12:30 am–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — |
1:30 pm–3:15 pm | Joe | XCA Deferred Option |
Minutes: The cmte starts the review line by line of the profile focusing on the technical solutions available: the main point i s to figure out if this solution should be compatible with AS4, and which is the most elegant solution to make easy deployment phases and that will allow us to enhance mixed environments (with both actors tha support deferred and actors that do not support deferred). In order to cover those points, we need to go deeper in the messaging structure.
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3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — | Afternoon Break | — |
3:30 pm–5:30 pm | — | JOINT Meeting QRPH / PCC / ITI |
Minutes: To be added. |
5:30 pm–5:45 pm | Mauro/Umberto | Wrap-up and Homework
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Minutes: home-work for today are:
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Wednesday, 27th February, 2019
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — |
8:30 am–8:45 am | Umberto/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review
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Participants: Mauro Zanardini (Arsenal) John Moehrke (byLight) Luke Duncan (IntraHealth) Lynn Felhofer (ITI Tech manager) Umberto Cappellini (Grapevine) Sylvie Colas (ASIP) Gregorio Canal (Arsenal) Joe Lamy (AEGIS- SSA) Matt Blackmon (Sequoia) Ben Levy (corepoint Health) Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare) Charles PArisot (GE) Chris Melo (Philips) Vassil Peytchev (EPIC) Spencer LaGesse (Epic) Steve Nichols (GE) Tarik Idris (ICW) Matt Blackmon (Sequoia) Daniel Berenzeanu (readyComputing) Harry Solomon (x)
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8:45 am–10:45 am | Luke Duncan | Facilities and Hierarchies in FHIR |
Minutes: Luke will post a new version by tonight that will include a revision of mCSD options and we will decide if the doc is ready for PC tomorrow. The cmte agreed in publishing a new version in PC just after the publication of the Release 4 TI version. That will create some confusion in the readers, but we need to have something normative published for ONC.
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9:45 am–10:45 am | Sylvie/John | Continuous Development, ITI-Tech Backlog | Minutes:
Planning co.chiars explained how we could manage the trello dashboard in order to keep track of the continuous development cycle. This dashboard will be publicly available and will list:
Sylvie will try to organize each block in order to have in the dashboard all the information needed in order to keep track of the status of the workitem (is it proceeding? do we need time during f2f for it? etc.)
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10:45 am–11:00 am | — | Morning Break | — |
11:00 am–12:30 am | Joe | XCA Deferred Option |
Minutes: The cmte asked to Consider support of AS4 for long latencies and app-level control. Deferred shall be available everywhere over the XDS or XCA workflow. So the profile will affect XDS actors. The open question is: we need to define where in those workflow it’s possible to switch from deferred to non deferred. Discussion on XDS.b groupings and how to handle retrieve. Important thing is to identify how to handle hte changes needed: new transactions? or do we need to use the XCPD approach. We will go with this approach for now. |
12:30 am–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — |
1:30 pm–2:00 pm | John | Review PC for FHIR Release 4 |
Minutes: John moves the motion to approve for TI the full bucket of Release 4 updates. John will work with mary in order to see the docs published, Lynn will figure out how to keep the version 3 accessible in the Archive and make this clear and easily available to vendors/monitors for the CAT EU in Rennes. Elliot: seconds the motion. No abstensions , no opposite votes. Motion Approved. |
2:00 pm–3:15 pm | Lynn | CP / Mantainance |
The cmte decided new priorities for mantainance. Mauro raised the question about the Gazelle tool used to manage audit records structure. The tool is in Gazelle Security Suite but it seems not ready to be fully used to maange our publication process. The alternative could be to set up a process that could be based on the versioning of the raw format that is used by GSS (XML structure). john will revise the wiki page that describe how to use external tools in our documenation management process and will see if this could fit with actual functionalities of GSS. After having an updated version of the wiki, we will see with gazelle team if we could proceed with this process and which actions we need to take in order to use this raw format as a normative spec. |
3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — | Afternoon Break | — |
3:30 pm–5:30 pm | Daniel | FHIR Patient Feed (aka "The Derek Project") |
Minutes: Daniel has proposed several different implementations of the mobile feed transaction, the actors supporting it and the relative groupings. |
5:30 pm–5:45 pm | Mauro/Umberto | Wrap-up and Homework
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Thursday, 28th February, 2019
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — |
8:30 am–8:45 am | Umberto/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review
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Participants: Minutes:
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8:45 am–10:45 am | Joe Lamy | XCA Deferred |
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10:45 am–11:00 am | — | Morning Break | — |
11:00 am–12:30 am | Daniel | FHIR Patient Feed (aka "The Derek Project") |
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12:30 am–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — |
1:30 pm–1:45 pm | Luke | Facilities and Hierarchies in FHIR: APPROVE FOR PC |
Minutes:
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1:45 pm–3:15 pm | Lynn | Mantainance / CPs |
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3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — | Afternoon Break | — |
3:30 pm–5:30 pm | Joe Lamy | XCA Deferred Option |
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5:30 pm–5:45 pm | Mauro/Umberto | Wrap-up and Homework
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Friday, 1st March, 2019
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes | |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — | |
8:30 am–8:45 am | Umberto/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review
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Participants: Minutes:
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8:45 am–9:15 am | John/sylvie/Daniel | ITI Board Report approval |
Minutes: The ITI committee voted for approval, the ITI board report. This report is sent to the IHE Board. The ITI committee voted for the four present ITI co-chairs to take the role of the ITI representative at the board, for 2019. | |
9:15 am–9:30 am | Daniel | PIMoF approval vol.1 content |
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9:30 am–10:45 am | John/sylvie | Planning Cmte: REVIEW PRIORITARIZATION MADE ON NOVEMBER / NEW PROPOSAL REVIEW |
Minutes: See the IHE/ITI work items dashboard: https://trello.com/b/IH4FPDhN | |
10:45 am–11:00 am | — | Morning Break | — | |
11:00 am–12:00 am | John/Sylvie | Planning Cmte: VOTE / APPROVAL for new proposals |
Minutes: The ITI committee voted for approval, to change the scope of the "Add Restfull feed to ATNA" in "Combining ATNA Feed with ATNA Query update in FHIR R4" and to move this item into current development by the technical committee. The committee voted also to add the "Remainder ITI FHIR profiles to R4 (mACM, PIXm, and NPFS)" work item at the next face-to-face.
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12:00 am–12:30 am | Mauro/ Umberto | Tcon Scheduling |
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12:30 am–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — | |
1:30 pm–1:45 pm | Umberto/Mauro | Adjurn / Wrap-up |
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