Rad Tech Minutes 2025-01-27-31
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- Daily Zoom meeting details
- Meeting link: https://rsna-org.zoom.us/j/86452663729?pwd=j0wiPRgh06D0fdsBakWnSWoPdqcfV7.1
- Meeting ID: 878 6907 9476
- Find your local number: https://rsna-org.zoom.us/u/kclaF7ytyG
- Agenda for this meeting is here: https://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/Rad_Tech_Agenda_2025-01-27-31
- Working folder for IHE RAD Tech 2024-25 cycle: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/198UThyCJQvL2vAjDaa-q3slp3Zcmi6rh
- AI Result Approval for Imaging AIRAI (Full 28%)
- POCUS EBIW Extensions (Full 41%)
- Cross-Community Access for Imaging XCA-I.b (Full 20%)
- Daily Zoom meeting details
All times are U.S. Central Time.
Monday, January 27, 2025
Participants: Kevin O'Donnell (Canon), Andrei Leontiev (Visage), Antje Schroeder, Alexis Laugerette (Siemens), Steve Nichols (GE), Wim Corbijn (Philips), Yasunari Shiokawa-san (JAHIS), Marc Kämmerer (VISUS), Harald Zachman (Merge Healthcare), David Kwan (IHE-Canada), Kevin Kreeger, Abhijit Deshmukh (Fovia), Lynn Felhofer (IHE RAD TPM), Khaled Younis (SIIM), Jamie Dulkowski, TeRhonda McGee, Chris Carr (RSNA)
Joined for POCUS session: Rob Ferre, Jason Nomura
- A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
- Introductions (Name and IHE Member Organization)
- IHE Radiology Technical Committee Roster
- IHE International Member Organizations
- IHE Patent Disclosure Statement
- Current Patent Disclosure Statements
- S1: 9:00am-11:00am: AI Results Assessment for Imaging (AIRAI)
- Review of workflows led by Marc and Antje
- Discussion of SR structure, including use of Tracking UID to express relationships between Findings
- S2: 11:15am-12:15pm: Maintenance
- Discuss assigned CP-RAD-513 - Intermittently Connected Mod (Steve)
- A2: 1:00pm-1:30pm: Administrative Time
- Review / update IHE Radiology Domain report to DCC (Wim)
- S3: 1:30pm-3:00pm: POCUS EBIW Extensions (POCUS)
- Review and edit Volume 2 content, including POCUS-required attributes
- S4: 3:15pm-4:45pm: Cross-Community Access for Imaging (XCA-I.b)
- Review and update actor requirements sections in Vol 1
- A3: 4:45pm-5:00pm: Administrative Time
- A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
Tuesday, January 28, 2025
Participants: Kevin O, Andrei, Antje, Steve, Wim, Marc, Harald, David, Kevin K, Salt, Khaled, Jamie, Chris, TeRhonda, Jason Nomura
Joined for clinical consult session: Adam Flanders, Stacy O'Connor, Ali Tejani, Audrey Verde, Brad Erickson, Carol Wu, David Koff, Imon Banerjee, Kent Hutson, Lindsey Johnstone, Melissa Davis, Seth Berkowitz, Stacy O'Connor, Val G, Tara Retson, Valerie Geisendorfer, Krishna Juluru, Walter Wiggins, Alex Towbin, Sam Miller, Adan Flanders
- A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
- Introductions (Name and IHE Member Organization)
- S1: 9:30am-10:30am: AI Results Assessment for Imaging (AIRAI) - Clinical Consult
- Session recording link.
- There was a lively exchange in the Zoom chat. Here is the contents of the chat: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MOOCcXIz_lfde7y5wrxwL1_zB80StWUdl0dJUPLHok4/edit?usp=sharing
- Marc made comments on the exchange. Here is a link to the annotate chat: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NGp3zsqu_tiF4urXlBpzKS2v67tGQBOK/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=105005564211348147894&rtpof=true&sd=true
- S2: 10:45am-12:15pm: AI Results Assessment for Imaging (AIRAI)
- S3: 1:30pm-3:00pm: POCUS EBIW Extensions (POCUS)
- Review / refine mapping of POCUS-critical attributes in new table in Appx A (Vol 2x)
- Review query matching and return key requirements
- Review links/flow between the appendix and Vol 2
- Review/refine open issues
- S4: 3:15pm-4:45pm: POCUS EBIW Extensions (POCUS)
- A3: 4:45pm-5:00pm: Administrative Time
- Group photo (including dinner) here
- A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
Wednesday, January 29, 2025
Participants: Kevin O, Andrei, Antje, Steve, Wim, Marc, Harald, David, Kevin K, Salt, Khaled, TeRhonda
Joined for clinical consult session: Allan Bottemiller, Jason Nomura, Matthew Flannigan, Rachel, Rob Ferre, Morozovm, F Fernández
- A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
- S1: 9:00am-10:30am: AI Results Assessment for Imaging (AIRAI)
- S2: 10:45am-12:15pm: AI Results Assessment for Imaging (AIRAI)
- A2: 1:00pm-1:30pm: Administrative Time
- Toronto Connect-a-thon testing scope (Lynn)
- Two RAD profiles will be tested in Toronto: XDS-I.b (a few vendors doing Supportive testing) and IRA (3 vendors)
- David emphasized the importance of early recruiting (before budget cycle). Antje commented on the need to recruit to the higher level marketing and financial folks. She said that direct recruiting (vs announcements by email) will be more successful.
- IHE Europe Webinar in preparation for Vienna Connect-a-thon (Andrei)
- We will do this and choose a day in the last week of Feb.
- The 2024 slides and a draft of the new 2025 presentation are now in google drive here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16YFcGhHz1FlUF9hyYDUN_Wvq12XpEeG2
- Toronto Connect-a-thon testing scope (Lynn)
- S3: 1:30pm-2:45pm: POCUS EBIW Extensions (POCUS)
- Line-by-live review of Vol 1 content
- S4: 3:00pm-4:15pm: POCUS EBIW Extensions (POCUS) - Clinical Consult
- This session was recorded
- S5: 4:25pm-5:10pm: POCUS EBIW Extensions (POCUS)
- Continue line-by-line of Vol 1
Thursday, January 30, 2025
Participants: Andrei, Steve, Wim, Harald, Lynn, Salt, Kinson Ho (Tempus), TeRhonda
- A1: 8:45am-9:00am Administrative Time
- S1: 9:00am-10:30am: Cross-Community Access for Imaging (XCWIA)
- Line by line review of Vol 1 content
- S2: 10:45am-12:15pm: Maintenance
- Review / finalize CP-RAD-513 Intermittently Connected Modality (Steve) -- approved as Completed/Ready for Ballot
- CP-RAD-545-03 - Refactor RAD-16 retrieve for reuse (Lynn) - review and update; still assigned
- CP-RAD-546-02 - Refactor RAD-30 -31 for reuse (Lynn) - review and update; still assigned
- A2: 1:00pm-1:30pm: Administrative Time
- Tentative: Quick review of Top 10 CPs assigned to Kevin
- CP-RAD-511 Fix Template identifier for Result Trees in AIR (Kevin) - approved as Completed; ready for ballot
- CP-RAD-512 AIR - updates to Result Tree Node specification (Kevin) - approved as Completed; ready for ballot
- CP-RAD-494 Clarify Series Description Code Sequence in RAD-137 (Kevin) -- reassign to Andrei
- Tentative: Quick review of Top 10 CPs assigned to Kevin
- S3: 1:30pm-3:00pm: Cross-Community Access for Imaging (XCWIA) - including Checkpoint assessment
Annex: PC-Prep Closing Assessment
- Profile Name: Cross-Community Web-based Image Access (XC-WIA)
- Did we line-by-line the entire document
- Yes
- How ready is it to go out for PC: Completely, Almost, Soonish, Hmmm
- Almost (Refactor the diagrams and the text for Use Case 2)
- Which open issues are risky, and why
- None
- Are all open issues phrased to solicit the needed information to close them?
- Think so
- Which use cases need more input
- Which issues from the Kickoff Closing Assessment are still unresolved
- What significant debates in PC-prep were not anticipated in the Kickoff
- Review ALL "uncertainty points" in the evaluation. Are all now resolved?
- Review ALL "complexity points" in the evaluation. Did each get appropriate text coverage/resolution?
- Review the "effort points" in the evaluation. Still seems right? Need more?
- How does the scope feel in terms of being a useful chunk of work? (Needs more? Just right? More than enough?)
- How is the work fitting in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)
- Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?
- Looking forward, if you had to reduce scope to hit TI, what would you drop
- Have the promised resources manifested
- What vendors are engaged (for each actor)
- When will we have sample data/objects
- Who should specifically be targeted for Public Comment feedback
- Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the PC meeting (See "PC Prep Meeting" above), if not what was the gap
- Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the PC meeting, if not what was the gap
- How many tcons would you like between now and PC Publication
- Do you need any tcons before TI Prep Meeting
- S4: 3:15-4:45pm Maintenance
- A3: 4:45pm-5:00pm: Administrative Time
Maintenance Topics for the Week
Note: Strikethrough font marks topics completed as the week proceeds
==> CP-related links
==> Process Submitted CPs:
link to Submitted folder on Google Drive
- CP-RAD-xxx-LF-refactor RAD-50 for reuse
- CP-RAD-xxx-LF-editorial-updates-2025
- CP-RAD-xxx-LF-BIR-pointer-to-Vol2
- CP-RAD-xxx-00-IOCMrqmts in RAD-30-31
==> Process Assigned CPs:
link to Assigned folder on Google Drive
Top ten CPs
- The top tens:
- CP-RAD-474 Extensions to RAD-106 for IMR (Kinson)
- CP-RAD-494
Clarify Series Description Code Sequence in RAD-137 (Kevin) -- reassign to Andrei - CP-RAD-500 RAD-137 clarify request/response (Kevin)
- CP-RAD-502 AIR - RAD-137 fix (Andrei)
CP-RAD-511 Fix Template identifier for Result Trees in AIR (Kevin) - approved as Completed; ready for ballot- <s<CP-RAD-512 AIR - updates to Result Tree Node specification (Kevin) - approved as Completed; ready for ballot
- The top tens:
Other Assigned CPs ready for discussion:
- CP-RAD-257 Clearly add Admitting Diagnosis to SWF for REM and TCE (Kevin)
- CP-RAD-293 Extend CT Dose Reporting (SSDE and Dose check logs) (Kevin)
- CP-RAD-305-04 - Revise profile dependencies (grouping) in Vol 1) (Lynn; + input from Philips in Sep 2024) -- cmte input needed
- CP-RAD-410-03 - XCA-I is out of date for Async (Lynn)
- CP-RAD-436-02 - Fix inconsistencies in IOCM actor / transaction and grouping requirements (Lynn) -- cmte input needed
- CP-RAD-463 Add RDSR Display option in REM (Kevin)
- CP-RAD-478-01 - Out-of-Date DICOM References (Lynn)
- CP-RAD-493-00 - ARI Ambiguity (Lynn)
CP-RAD-513 - Intermit Connected Mod (Steve)- CP-RAD-537 - Misleading definition for “Instances-stored” Audit Trigger (Lynn)
- CP-RAD-541-01 - HL7 order messages – editorial fixes (Lynn)
- CP-RAD-545-03 - Refactor RAD-16 retrieve for reuse (Lynn)
- CP-RAD-546-02 - Refactor RAD-30 -31 for reuse (Lynn)
- CP-RAD-547-03 - Update Radiology Audit Trail Option text for clarity (Lynn)
==> Determine timeline for next ballot
Link to Completed folder
- CPs ready in ballot folder (Andrei/RadTech):
- Prepare CP Ballot announcement (TeRhonda):
- Ballot announcement sent (TeRhonda):
- Ballot closed; votes/comments due:
- Ballot resolution meeting (RadTech):
==> For 2024-25 cycle -- Profiles for potential Final Text, Deprecation, or Retirement (advocate)
See notes in Assessment of RAD profiles sheet
- Targets for Final Text promotion:
- AIR (Andrei)
- DIFF (Wim)
- IID (Andrei)
- IRWF.b (??? none yet)
- XDR-I (proposed Kinson, to be confirmed)
- Targets for Deprecation:
- CDS-OAT (Ask Teri & Brian for a recommendation on deprecation)
- PAWF (Kevin)
- PWF (Antje)
- RWF (Antje)
- XRR-WD (??? none yet)
- Target for Retirement:
- FUS (Wim)
- PDI Extensions Supp (proposed Antje, to be confirmed)