Pharm Tech Minutes 2012.02.03
Revision as of 10:24, 3 February 2012 by Juergenbrandstaetter (talk | contribs) (→13:00-13:15 Monitoring and Syncing with PCD: (Perfusion administration))
Attendees
- Brandstätter, Jürgen (CodeWerk Software Services and Development GmbH, co-chair IHE)
- Cocchiglia, Arianna (Arsenal.IT)
- de Jong, Tom (Nova Pro)
- Demarmels, Marco (Lake Griffin, LLC)
- Géraud, Thierry (CareFusion)
- Letellier, Simon (EAHP)
- Parisot, Charles (GE Healthcare)
- Robberecht, Marc (Agfa Healthcare)
- Surugue, Jacqueline (EAHP)
- Zalunardo, Luca (Arsenal.IT)
- Peytchev, Vassil (Epic)
Greeting
9:15-10:00 CMPD Exceptional cases
- This work item will be combined with work item "Refinement CMPD workflow". New name: "CMPD exceptional cases and concept of Therapeutic prescription" (the current prescription is ment to be a "logistic prescription")
- Exceptional cases shall be collected for scenario 1 + 2
- Dedicated TCons to this topic. Schedule will be proposed by Jürgen
- Volunteers:
- Jürgen, Tom, Marco, Jacqueline, Charles, Marc, Viktor should be
- HL7 Pharmacy works on the same topic, joint work intended by IHE and HL7
- Objective: Know what to change in Community Pharmacy profiles at the end of the season
- Do the changes in next season
10:00-11:00 Refinement CMPD workflows
- Was combined with work item "CMPD Exceptional cases"
11:00-12:00 CMPD: XDW at CPM
- Problem 1: Maintaining XDW Document cross-domain
- Publishing documents in foreign domains should be solved by ITI.
- Problem 2: Does proxying the managment of XDW make sense?
- Evaluate the whole usage of XDW at client-side in both scenarios and weight the amount of work which could be proxied.
- The extensions by work item "CMPD exceptional cases and concept of Therapeutic prescription" shall be considered
- Decision
- First work item "CMPD exceptional cases and concept of Therapeutic prescription" will be worked out
- Then this work item will be taken up again
12:30-13:30 Use-case: Community – Hospital
- Link: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr2_2010-2011/Technical%20Committee/WhitePapers/Hospital&CommunityWP/Use%20case%20for%20Hospital%20and%20Community%20Pharmacy%20v1.3.doc
- Objective of the whitepaper should be to identify, if there is information missing or inconsistent in the Hospital or Community Pharmacy domain, which avoids smooth transition of information between them
- The use-cases should be splitted into short and distict pieces
- Each of these should be evaluated if the border-system (attached to both domains) has enough information to perform the transition of information either way
- The longer versions shall be preserved for the detailed prescription
- Use-case "Hospital Dispense for inpatients and outpatients" combines too many things, seems inconsistent
- Jacqueline will inform Orlando about this
13:00-13:15 Monitoring and Syncing with PCD: (Perfusion administration)
- Work item is accepted as a IHE Pharmacy work item.
- Main contact: Jürgen at first (change possible if it makes sense)
- Interested people
- Vassil, Marc, Jacqueline, Thierry (+ others from CareFusion)
- Chris Courville (EPIC and part of PCD group)
==13:15-13:30 Joint meeting with HL7 Pharmacy
- HL7 Pharmacy schedule
- Next out of cycle meeting: March 6.-7., Oslo
- WG meeting in May 13.-18., Vancouver
- WG meeting in Sep 9.-14., Baltimore
- Tom checks if IHE F2F at 2012.06.19-20 in Brussels/DenHaag is possible for HL7
- Otherwise date it for autumn
- IHE schedule
- Good date: End of October (would be the a technical meeting at IHE)
- either Oct 23/24 or 30/31 2012
- Vassil/Charles will send ITI/PCC/QRPH schedule when available
13:30-15:15 Medication Documentation
- News
- Jose is not in the list of authors anymore
- New lead authors: Marc, Julie
- Abstract
- Medication profile = Medical History + Clinical information
- Solving divided into two parts:
- Additional to "Bottom-Up" approach a Top-Down approach is added because of HL7 EHR WG, which deals with that topic by a "requirements"-driven approach, HL7 and IHE Pharmacy align to that
- Collecting guidelines of different countries
- Australia, Canada, Netherlands (shall be set up there)
- Involved work groups:
- IHE Pharmacy
- HL7 Pharmacy
- HL7 EHR Functional group
- IHE PCC
- Risks and questions
- Overlap between "Medication profile" and "Patient summary"
- Don't re-invent the wheel or invent it twice in parallel
- Size of a Medication profile
- What is different between the MP and the Med-Recon of PCC
- Word "profile" might cause confusion with "IHE profiles"
- Discussion: "What is a Medication profile"
- The components of a "Medication record" have been discussed
- Shall be expressed in the "Top-down" chapter of the document
- Next steps
- We need to ensure a togrough understanding of the requirements for information input and output into a Medication profile.
- For this the first step is to document requirements such as scope statement and goals in terms of clinical decision support and how an EHR functional profile and as a subset of it a Medication profile serves the clinical decision process
- The primary focus will be on the perspective of a Pharmacist giving a Pharmaceutical Advice
- The end goal is to assess which information we have and what we miss to ensure that medication related information is available and recorded as needed
- Dedicated TCons to this topic. Schedule will be proposed by Marc/Tom
- Further schedule
- Whitepaper is unlikely to be finished this season
- Schedule will be relaxed according to availability of the contributors
15:00-16:00 Glossary work item
- Link: https://bit.ly/sdk2u7
- Current goal restricted to finding a common glossary between IHE Pharmacy and HL7 Pharmacy
- Target audience of this glossary: Implementors, Software architects, Consultants, ... (domain experts know definitions anyway)
- Other sources (ISO TC215 WG6, CEN TC251, WHO, EMEA, ...) are considered to retrieve definitions, but no contribution to these other bodies yet
- Exception: Definitions in column "Nictiz-definitions" were the starting point of the work (currenlty still in the spreadsheet, will be merged in and removed in the end)
- Once completed, the result will be handed over too ISO TC215 WG6
- Note: Definitions of other sources sometimes do not serve the purposes our two groups (e.g. two precice, too complicated, ...)
- Review by Pharmacists intended
- Julie for HL7 Pharmacy
- Jacqueline for IHE Pharmacy
- Special topic "Definition of Prescription"
- Jacqueline will check the professional definitions
- General procedure
- Step 1: HL7 and IHE fill their columns with its definition
- Step 2: Agreement between HL7 and IHE per column by the working group
- Step 3: General agreement by the committees
- Step 4: If necessary, CPs to affected profiles to align glossaries
- Step 5: Hand over result to ISO 215
- Further schedule
- Intended to finish until end of season
- Reason: Time pressure because a common glossary is fundamental for all profile development and cross-domain work to avoid confusion. It should be harmonized and stable as soon as possible.
16:45-17:00 Other business
- Tom informs that in the Netherlands the local HL7 Pharmacy and IHE Pharmacy do e joint comparison of the HMW profile to the national HL7v2.4 guidelines to that topic. Goal is to shift to IHE Pharmacy profiles
- Maybe some involved vendors are thereby anchoraged to step into HMW
- Make CMPD better readable
- Profile seem very complex at first sight, this might discourage people from using it
- Thoughts on better presentation
- Simplify actor diagram and remove parts which are just necessary in multi-domain
- Keepp first part of profile just single-domain, add multi-domain capabilities at the very end