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Revision as of 03:04, 14 May 2009
Topics: LAB TF 3.0-FT, ILW, XOCP & External Lab Ordering, GIR, Organization of 2 committees
Attendees
Attendee | Organization | Country | May 14 | May 15 | May 16 | |||
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am | pm | am | pm | am | pm | |||
Eric Poiseau | INRIA | France | + | + | ||||
Hiroyoshi Okada | ITEC | Japan | + | + | ||||
Yoshimi Hirasawa | Techno Medica | Japan | + | + | ||||
Shigeo Hasegawa | Olympus | Japan | + | + | ||||
Karima Bourquard | GMSIH | France | + | + | ||||
François Macary | GIP DMP | France | + | + | ||||
Ken McCaslin | Quest | US | + | |||||
Vassil Peychev | Epics | US | + | + | ||||
Hiroyoki Kohda | Fujifilm | Japan | + | + | ||||
Takashi Nakashima | Fujifilm | Japan | + | |||||
Andrzej Knafel | Roche Diagnostics | Switzerland | + | + | ||||
Shin-ichi Watanabe | A&T | Japan | + | + | ||||
Genichi Kato | Kyoto 1st Red Cross Hospital | Japan | + | + | ||||
Alexander Mense | University of applied science | Austria | + | + | ||||
Stefan Sabutsch | University of applied science | Austria | + | + | ||||
Nobuyuki Chiba | A&T | Japan | + | + | ||||
Mayu Nagao | A&T | Japan | + | + | ||||
Charles Parisot | GE | France | + | + | ||||
Supporting documents
All documents used during the meeting are available on ihe ftp server
Minutes
Agenda adjustment and approval
Thursday May 14:
- Welcome, roundtable, housekeeping, agenda adjustments & approval
- Organization: Planning & Technical Committee, cochair elections - Karima
- Inter-Laboratory Workflow profile (ILW): goes to "Trial for Implementation" - François
- XD-LAB project in Austria - Stefan, Alexander Mense
- Conclusion on the Italian microbiology issue with XD-LAB - François
Friday May 15:
- Graphs & Images in lab results (option GIR for LTW and LDA profiles) - Ken, Shini-chi, François
- Conclusions on Newborn Screening business analysis - François
- CP processing - François
- All afternoon: Content Profile for CDA lab order document (XOCP) - Alexander Henket
- First pass on comments to white paper "External Lab Ordering"
Saturday May 16:
- News on IHE LAB round the world: Japan, North-America, Europe - Eric
- CP processing (continue) - who?
- Planning - Karima
- Wrapup
Agenda is approved
Time frame of each day is 9 am to 5 pm (Kyoto time)
Organization
Presentation by Karima
Planning & Technical committees
Cochair elections
Secretary
To participate, your organization must first apply to IHE International. See apply form on www.ihe.net
Then you can participate to any domain.
To participate to LAB, email to Karima
To vote you must be in the roster.
The cochair election is opened until 6 pm today (Kyoto time). Cast your vote by email to Karima. One vote per organization.
IHE LAB needs a new secretary: A person whose organization is sponsoring the LAB domain. The request is opened from now to June 15. Contact Karima.
Inter Laboratory Workflow Supplement
Comments received: none
This is a profile of interest at least for France. IHE France will have to advertise it to the IT lab community once again.
Some comments addressed during the session. Among others: Explanation on the option "Report Fac-simile" and the option "Test addition approval".
Decision to publish the supplement for TI, per the schedule.
Italian microbiology issue
See the slides "microbiology_tree"
The current restriction in XD-LAB does not come from CDA but from an alignment with the V3 Lab Result message. This constraint does not exist in V2 results messages.
The solution based on a qualifier element, either directly of through the intermediate element is confirmed to be a misusage of the CDA schema.
So the solution will be to release the existing constraint on the entry template of XD-LAB. Two possible variations:
a) Attach the isolate cluster directly below the observation that identified this isolate.
b) Attach the isolate cluster organizer below the culture battery organizer.
In parallel, the corresponding change request for the V3 lab message shall be submitted to HL7 O&O.
Action item: François
XD-LAB and the ELGA project
Presentation by Alexander Mense and Stefan Sabutsch Needs for extending XD-LAB:
- Provide the chief complaint section and the admitting diagnosis section from PCC. CP for XD-LAB, as an optional feature --> Stefan
- Ask PCC to explain the process of validation of a document (e.g. XD-LAB) containing extensions to the CDA schema (e.g. precondition for reference range), protected by a specific namespace (e.g.
lab:urn:oid:1.3.6.1.4.1.19376.1.3.2 <observationRange classCode="OBS" moodCode="EVN.CRT"> <value xsi:type="IVL_PQ"> <low value="4.50" unit="10*6/mm3"/> <high value="6.00" unit="10*6/mm3"/> </value> </observationRange> <lab:precondition typeCode="PRCN"> <lab:criterion classCode="COND"> <lab:code code="SEX"/> <lab:value xsi:type="CD" code="M" codeSystem="2.16.840.1.113883.5.1"/> </lab:criterion> </lab:precondition>
--> Charles
- The LOINC specialty sections do not correspond exactly to the Austrian classification, to the French neither.
Change Proposals for XD-LAB
CPs #148, #149 & #152 finalized and approved
CP #150 is accepted and assigned to Joost. the committee raises one concern about the proposed solution: This one batch message may be quite big, and the acknowledgement comes after the Code Set Consumer has integrated the content. Isn't there a danger of breaking existing implementations of the communication layer (MLLP)? Also because some HL7 message connectors are based on MSH segment, and won't work with a message starting with BHS.
- Consider coupling the batch with the continuation protocol of HL7, to split the big chunck into smaller units.
- Consider an alternate solution sticking to the existing sequence of 4 messages M08, M09, M11, M10, in which each message is systematically present even if it is empty because there is no object of that category in the code set.
--> To be finalized by Joost
Planning for current supplements + LAB TF 3.0 FT
Specification | CAT Japan (26/10/2009) | CAT US (January 2010) | CAT Europe (April 2010) | CAT Australia (July 2009) | publish (dd/mm/yy) |
Main editor |
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ILW (TI) | + | 05/06/09 | JC Hassler | |||
XOCP (TI) | + | dd/mm/09 | A Henket | |||
External Lab Order (WP) | NA | NA | NA | NA | dd/mm/09 | A Hamster |
GIR (TI) | + | + | dd/mm/09 | K Iguchi | ||
LAB TF 3.0 (FT) | + | + | + | + | 05/06/09 | F Macary |
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