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**<font color='green'>Added to the diagram</font>
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*<font color='darkred'>Need a transaction for 'Study has been shutdown, what needs to take place as far as patient's state and protocolDef within EHR?'</font>
*<font color='darkred'>Need a transaction for 'Study has been shutdown, what needs to take place as far as patient's state and protocolDef within EHR?'</font>


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Revision as of 15:50, 5 February 2009

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12/12/08

12/19/08

01/09/09

  • Discussed RPE Flow Diagram
  • Transactions from Protocol Manager to Protocol Executor when the study changes
    • AmendProtocolDefinition
  • Studies should be versioned
    • Added to Flow Diagram
  • Check study version transaction
    • Is there a todo here?
  • Add enter patient in study transaction (responses: ACK ENTER, ACK ENROLL, ACK INFORM CONSENT). This would happen before the patient is enrolled into a study.
    • Added to Flow Diagram: UpdateProtocolState (XML Message to EnterPatientRequest/ScreenPatientRequest?)
  • Add Prerequisites/Dependencies
    • (patient ran through inclusion/exclusion criteria, patient signed inform consent, labs, documented signed inform consent, screening etc.)
    • Need to define these in more detail
  • Patients get “screen failed” may or may not be entered into EDC
    • This will be a response from the UpdateProtocolState(EnrollPatientRequest) transaction with instructions on next steps (define next steps)
  • List before/after of enroll
    • No idea what i was trying to accomplish here
  • Changed Enroll Patient to EnrollPatientRequest
    • Added to Flow Diagram
  • Determined that only the "UpdateProtocolManager(EnrollProtocolRequest)" Transaction would be worked for the next publication of RPE.
  • Currently the focus as well as documenting the other items involved in the RPE use case

01/16/09

  • Agenda
    • Review RPE wiki
    • Define input/output data elements needed for the UpdateProtocolManager(EnrollPatientRequest) transaction
      • Work will be needed form the EDC side in order to define these data elements
    • Discuss XML standards to be used for message parameter supplied in the UpdateProtocolManager transaction
      • Choosing an XML standard cannot happen until we have defined the data elements needed for the transaction
      • Need to also think about other data elements needed for the other options for this "UpdateProtocolManager" transaction
  • Define the difference between Protocol and Protocol State.
    • ProtocolDefinition
    • ProtocolInstance/ProtocolState
    • From the Trial Design Model (TDM) - 1.2 Separation of Concerns: Trial Design vs. Trial Execution?
    • Three have been proposed...will add to agenda for next meeting
      1. ProtocolDocument – aka ProtocolDoc
      2. ProtocolDesign – aka ProtocolDesign
      3. ProtocolDefinition – aka ProtocolDef
    • New name for UpdateProtocolManager based on this decision?
  • Add AmendProtocol transaction from ProtocolManager to ProtocolExecutor
    • Added an AmendProtocolDefinition transaction to the RPE Flow Diagram
  • Add EnterPatient/PatientInScreening transaction
    • Added an UpdateProtocolState(EnterPatientRequest/ScreenPatientRequest) transaction to the RPE Flow Diagram
  • Add FreezePatient transaction
    • Added an AlertProtocolState(FreezePatient, Unfreeze/Thaw, LockPatient/SignOffOnPatient, Unlock) transaction to the RPE Flow Diagram
  • Add LockPatient/SignOffOnPatient transaction
    • patient is done
    • Added an AlertProtocolState(FreezePatient, Unfreeze/Thaw, LockPatient/SignOffOnPatient, Unlock) transaction to the RPE Flow Diagram
  • Add Unfreeze/Thaw transaction
    • Added an AlertProtocolState(FreezePatient, Unfreeze/Thaw, LockPatient/SignOffOnPatient, Unlock) transaction to the RPE Flow Diagram
  • Add UnLock transaction
    • big issue...more auditable
    • Added an AlertProtocolState(FreezePatient, Unfreeze/Thaw, LockPatient/SignOffOnPatient, Unlock) transaction to the RPE Flow Diagram
  • Discussed the need to clarify why we chose to do the one transaction "UpdateProtocolManager(EnrollProtocolRequest)"
    • Seems to be one of the most needed?
    • The content used for the ProtocolDef will come from the Trial Design Model (TDM), which is not complete
    • The "UpdateProtocolManager(EnrollProtocolRequest)" transaction doesn't need the entire ProtocolDef to be functional, just an identifier for the ProtocolDef

01/23/09

  • RPE wiki changes?
    • Reviewed changes from last meeting
  • Add Prerequisites/Dependencies
    • (patient ran through inclusion/exclusion criteria, patient signed inform consent, labs, documented signed inform consent, screening etc.)
    • Need to define these in more detail
    • Looked good, Robert to look them over
  • Define the difference between Protocol and Protocol State
    • ProtocolDefinition
    • ProtocolInstance/ProtocolState
    • From the Trial Design Model (TDM) - 1.2 Separation of Concerns: Trial Design vs. Trial Execution?
    • Three have been proposed
      1. ProtocolDocument – aka ProtocolDoc
      2. ProtocolDesign – aka ProtocolDesign
      3. ProtocolDefinition – aka ProtocolDef
    • New name for UpdateProtocolManager based on this decision?
    • Will use ProtocolDef to define the Protocol Document being created by eClinical and maintained by the ProtocolManager (Updated the RPE Flow Diagram)
    • Will use UpdateProtocolExeStep to define the transaction that allows the ProtocolExecutor to update the ProtocolManager when the Execution Step has taken place (Updated the RPE Flow Diagram)
    • Added ProtocolDef and ProtocolState to the Glossary
  • Glossary needs some attention
    • Added ProtocolDef and ProtocolState to the Glossary
  • Update transactions to reflect new transactions from 01/16 meeting
    • Updated the transactions to reflect previous discussions and the RPE Flow Diagram
    • Is it alright to put a link to the Trial Design Model document on the wiki?
    • Uploaded the TDM document per Diane Wold
  • Open/Closed issues needs work?
    • Cleaned it up a little...Open/Closed issues will mostly work from the meeting notes
  • Review input/output data elements needed for the UpdateProtocolManager(EnrollPatientRequest) transaction
    • Work will be needed form the eClinical side in order to define these data elements
    • What data is needed from the EHR to successfully Enroll a subject into EDC for a study
    • What data is available from the EDC to store within the EHR
  • [To be done after the input/output data elements are defined] Discuss XML standards to be used for message parameter supplied in the UpdateProtocolManager transaction
    • Choosing an XML standard cannot happen until we have defined the data elements needed for the transaction
    • Need to also think about other data elements needed for the other options for this "UpdateProtocolManager" transaction
  • Add UpdateProtocolState(SubjectComplete) transaction
  • Introduce BRIDG (Biomedical Research Integrated Domain Group) as a standard to use with RPE
    • Think of it in the same way as a content profile (CRD) for the transmission mechanism (RFD)
    • caBIG
  • What needs to be done before 01/26/09-01/27/09 face-to-face?

01/26/09 QRPH Technical Committe Face-to-Face

  • Agenda
  • Discussed confusion of RetrieveProtocolDefList naming
    • Is it a retrieve mechanism or a query mechanism?
    • Beginnning of RPE would be the RetreiveProtocolDef transaction
    • Remove and just leave one RetreiveProtocolDef
    • Remove AgreeToParticipate transaction
    • Daemon to provide a proposal at next meeting 02/05/2009
  • Remove EDC and EHR from RPE Flow Diagram
    • Come up with more appropriate terms to use for real world entities. eClinical Research?
    • Removed the names from the diagram
  • Split scheduling UpdateProtocolExeStep transaction into two different transactions
    • UpdateProtocolExeStep(PatientScheduled) - Patient visits are scheduled
    • UpdateProtocolExeStep(RecordPatientVisit) - Patient has came in for visit[n]
    • Added to the diagram
  • Need a transaction for 'Study has been shutdown, what needs to take place as far as patient's state and protocolDef within EHR?'


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