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'''typeCodes for XDW''': PCC is assigning typeCode. Guidance of maintaining this codes and where to publish them. We still need to define the governance in order to create and assign a new typeCode. About XDW Raffaele and Mauro will formalize a governance rule in order to create a new WD code. '''ACTION ITEM''': figure out how to create codes and engage PCC for this. And once it is ready we will pass this to the DCC. Mauro will create a wiki page for this. Probably we should highline this link to the wiki. | '''typeCodes for XDW''': PCC is assigning typeCode. Guidance of maintaining this codes and where to publish them. We still need to define the governance in order to create and assign a new typeCode. About XDW Raffaele and Mauro will formalize a governance rule in order to create a new WD code. '''ACTION ITEM''': figure out how to create codes and engage PCC for this. And once it is ready we will pass this to the DCC. Mauro will create a wiki page for this. Probably we should highline this link to the wiki. | ||
− | '''FHIR issues''': consistent way in order to create a table the list the IHE specific cardinality for FHIR resource elements. Take as example the MHD vol.3 tables. In future we will have a totally different way to represent this (e.g. StructuredDefinition). | + | '''FHIR issues''': consistent way in order to create a table the list the IHE specific cardinality for FHIR resource elements. Take as example the MHD vol.3 tables. In future we will have a totally different way to represent this (e.g. StructuredDefinition). We should minimize the content taken from external standards. |
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April/May 2018 F2F – Volume 2 Meeting, 30 April – 4 May 2018
This 5-day meeting is focused on review of volume 2 content and preparation for public comment publication.
- Meeting Location
- RSNA Building, Oak Brook, IL
- WebEx information
- Meeting Number: 928 905 579
- Password: Ask co-chairs (mzanardini@consorzioarsenal.it , Elliot.Silver@mckesson.com )
- Link: https://himss.webex.com/himss/j.php?MTID=mc82b1e14145286d2de3dc7f30b13cf79
- Support material
- Work item documents and support material may be found in the meeting folder
Agenda & Minutes
All times listed are tentative, and may be revised during the meeting—refresh often.
Time
Oak Brook, IL (US Central, UTC−06:00) |
Monday, 30 April | Tuesday, 1 May | Wednesday, 2 May | Thursday, 3 May | Friday, 4 May |
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08:30 am–8:45 am | Breakfast | Breakfast | Breakfast | Breakfast | Breakfast |
8:45 am–9:00 am | |||||
9:00 am–9:15 am | Introductions and Agenda Review | Metadata Handbook | Metadata Handbook | Metadata Handbook | Metadata Handbook |
9:15 am–9:30 am | Metadata Handbook | ||||
9:30 am–9:45 am | |||||
9:45 am–10:00 am | |||||
10:00 am–10:15 am | |||||
10:15 am–10:30 am | |||||
10:30 am–10:45 am | |||||
10:45 am–11:00 am | Morning Break | Morning Break | Morning Break | Morning Break | Morning Break |
11:00 am–11:15 am | XCMU | XCMU | AS4 | XCMU | Scheduling and Wrap-up |
11:15 am–11:30 am | |||||
11:30 am–11:45 am | |||||
11:45 am–12:00 noon | |||||
12:00 noon–12:15 pm | |||||
12:15 pm–12:30 pm | |||||
12:30 pm–12:45 pm | Lunch | Lunch | Lunch | Lunch | Lunch |
12:45 pm–1:00 pm | |||||
1:00 pm–1:15 pm | |||||
1:15 pm–1:30 pm | |||||
1:30 pm–1:45 pm | AS4 | AS4 | Publication planning, etc. | AS4 | |
1:45 pm–2:00 pm | |||||
2:00 pm–2:15 pm | |||||
2:15 pm–2:30 pm | |||||
2:30 pm–2:45 pm | |||||
2:45 pm–3:00 pm | |||||
3:00 pm–3:15 pm | |||||
3:15 pm–3:30 pm | Afternoon Break | Afternoon Break | Afternoon Break | Afternoon Break | |
3:30 pm–3:45 pm | FHIR Conformance | Joint Meeting | XCMU | FHIR Conformance | |
3:45 pm–4:00 pm | |||||
4:00 pm–4:15 pm | |||||
4:15 pm–4:30 pm | |||||
4:30 pm–4:45 pm | |||||
4:45 pm–5:00 pm | |||||
5:00 pm–5:15 pm | |||||
5:15 pm–5:30 pm | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Monday, 30 April, 2018
Time
Oak Brook, IL (US Central, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:30 am–9:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
9:00 am–9:15 am | Elliot/Mauro |
Introductions and Agenda Review |
Participants: Vincent Van Pelt (Nictiz) Mauro Zanardini (arsenàl.IT) Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare) Ben Leavy (CorePoint) John Moherke (ByLight) Ken Meyer (IBM Watson) Luke Duncan (Intrahealth) Umberto Cappellini (AGFA) Joe Lamy (SSA) Vassil Peitchev (Epic) Sylvie Colas (ASIP) Bill (NIST) Lynn (ITI Tech Manager) Oliver Hegger (ahdis) Daniel Berenzeanu (ReadyCOmputing) Charles Parisot (GE) Massimiliano Masi (TIANI) Some administrative issues related to the secretariat. Sarah Bell is the reference for ITI activities. |
9:15 am–10:45 am | Vincent |
Metadata Cookbook |
Review of the outline of the document. First 18 pages are ready for review. They state context and introduction content . Vincent asked for feedback on the “Statements and Questions” documents, that represents a summary of the princeples that will be addressed in the core of the cookbook. Reviewed the Cathegorization Architecture: list of principles to apply when an organization would set up an Affinity Domain.
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10:45 am–11:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00 am–12:30 pm | Ken |
XCMU |
Overview of the document. If the Persistence option is supported by the Responder we are not requiring it to be grouped with a Registry or a Responding Gateway. It should be implemented in that way, but we will not require it in our spec. It is up to the developer to figure out how to manage the persistence, and this could be communicated to customers and purchaser via Integration statement (in which the product support both responder and Registry…). The forward option requires that the chaining of subsequent Update Request. The forward should be managed as a required grouping between an initiator and a responder. The additional behavior related to the grouping will be described in the cross-profile considerations section. The cmte had a discussion about how use-cases are documented. We should not cover too technical details there, but we should cover the business needs. Use-cases text needs to be simplified. Security Considerations will be completed later in the week.
We should consider how to manage content that is shared with MU "heavy". Right now we do not highline what has been changed from previous version. REVIEWERs: vol.2 - RMU - JOE and MAURO |
12:30 pm–1:30 pm | — |
Lunch |
— |
1:30 pm–3:15 pm | scheduled: Charles, effectively: Vassilly / Ken |
AS4 |
Charles is missing. Time assigned for a CP discussion
CP Vassil: Server Certificate validation. Add a named option in order to cover an RFC requirement that asks clients to validate the DN field in the server certificate and not the CN. Now the text in ITI-19 is controversial 3.19.6.1.3. Public internet Certificate validation Option: if the DN is present it shall be validated. The CP should also consider to have suggestion for content of client certificates , that shall not contain DN field, otherwise the server will fail the validation. NOTE added 1st May: We spoke improperly about DN. The RFC mandates validation of FQDNs present in the DNS-ID (see RFC https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6125#section-4) Second CP: referenceIDList and subissionSet: make it optional only on XDR. In XDS it cannot be used. Review of vol.2 of RMU. Charles take the lead of the last 45 minutes: Key decisions to take:
REVIEWERs: none for now. |
3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
3:30 pm–5:15 pm | John |
FHIR Conformance |
result of the work done by John (see how to integrate CapabilityStatement in our word specification): there is no real value added today. We should move to this approach once we will have an on-line publication process and a governance to do that. External perception that IHE is not adding value, this is wrong. There are still a lot of stuff that we could manage and capabilityStatement or sturcturedDefinition are not. Some requirements are not expressible in fhir resources. Main advandage for hl7 is that the specification is html. In our case the governance is still missing. We will explore in next sessions this week how to manage TestScripts. |
5:15 pm–5:30 pm | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Tuesday, 1 May, 2018
Time
Oak Brook, IL (US Central, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:30 am–9:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
9:00 am–10:45 am | Vincent |
Metadata Handbook |
Participants:
Mauro Zanardini (arsenàl.IT) Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare) John Moherke (ByLight) Ken Meyer (IBM Watson) Umberto Cappellini (AGFA) Vassil Peitchev (Epic) Sylvie Colas (ASIP) Lynn (ITI Tech Manager) Daniel Berenzeanu (ReadyCOmputing) Chris Melo (Philips) Ben Levy (Corepoint) Matt Blackmon (Sequoia) Charles Parisot (GE) Joe Lamy (SSA) Vassil Peitchev (EPIC) Tarik Idris (ICW) Massimiliano Masi (TIANI) Vincent is not able to join due to technical issues. The handbook needs a radical restructuring, because we do not have to focus on the metadata concept or on convincing readers that the WP is useful. The goal should be to have a set of principles. A handbook needs to be far more actionable. We already have a lot of material that describe metadata concepts and Document Sharing in general. The title is too wordy. Plan is to review the document and propose a restructuring of the content. new proposed concepts to put in the handbook:
NOTE: We should guarantee that the content does not overlap with the two WP already published by IHE ITI related to Affinity Domain and Metadata Usage: DocSharing AffinityDomainTemplate
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10:45 am–11:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00 am–12:30 pm | Ken |
XCMU |
Review of the comments collected during night.
|
12:30 pm–1:30 pm | — |
Lunch |
— |
1:30 pm–3:15 pm | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
Charles leads the discussion. Should we add AS4 option for XDS Docu COnsumer in the context of XCA. Proposal to add it, and add a note in the PC document in order to collect feedback from readers. Add in iti-18 and iti-43 iti38 iti-39 the AS4 option. The option for the consumer will be restricted to interaction with GW. The note will say that we took this decision for PC but we can either remove the option for the XDS consumer or extend it to the XDS Registry / XDS Repository. XDR / XCDR also need the AS4 option, so we will add it in iti-41 and iti-80. We will not cover: MPQ and XCF. iti-69 and iti-75 are in charge of RAD so Charles will check with that cmte if they need this option or not. Pim presentation describe the alternatives technical solutions available. Alternative 1: Just one mime part with the xml soap message and the base64 encoded inline. MOTION: Alternative 2: Multiple mime part one for each document and one for the xml soap message. Rationale:
Vassill move to accept this alternative and spend time in analyze details of this technical solution, Elliot seconded it. No abstensions. Charles will provide Appendix V today, and all the transactions (90% version ready for review). |
3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
3:30 pm–5:15 pm | Elliot/Mauro |
Joint ITI/PCC/QRPH session:
|
Round table presentation. Updates of cmte works:
The problem to collect info about IHE profiles implemented and used should be reported to sponsors. The regional deployment commitee does not provide useful feedbacks. Unless we license the spec , we will not have a complete picture of products/projects that uses our spec. Suggestion is that the intent of deprecation has a timeOut, the timeOut should be discussed in the DCC group. The product Registry is something usefull: https://product-registry.ihe.net/PR/home.seam typeCodes for XDW: PCC is assigning typeCode. Guidance of maintaining this codes and where to publish them. We still need to define the governance in order to create and assign a new typeCode. About XDW Raffaele and Mauro will formalize a governance rule in order to create a new WD code. ACTION ITEM: figure out how to create codes and engage PCC for this. And once it is ready we will pass this to the DCC. Mauro will create a wiki page for this. Probably we should highline this link to the wiki. FHIR issues: consistent way in order to create a table the list the IHE specific cardinality for FHIR resource elements. Take as example the MHD vol.3 tables. In future we will have a totally different way to represent this (e.g. StructuredDefinition). We should minimize the content taken from external standards.
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5:15 pm–5:30 pm | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Wednesday, 2 May, 2018
Time
Oak Brook, IL (US Central, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:30 am–9:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
9:00 am–10:45 am | Vincent |
Metadata Handbook
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|
10:45 am–11:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00 am–12:30 pm | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
|
12:30 pm–1:30 pm | — |
Lunch |
— |
1:30 pm–3:15 pm | Elliot/Mauro |
Publication planning, etc.
|
|
3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
3:30 pm–5:15 pm | Ken |
XCMU |
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5:15 pm–5:30 pm | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Thursday, 3 May, 2018
Time
Oak Brook, IL (US Central, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:30 am–9:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
9:00 am–10:45 am | Vincent | Metadata Handbook | |
10:45 am–11:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00 am–12:30 pm | Ken |
XCMU |
|
12:30 pm–1:30 pm | — |
Lunch |
— |
1:30 pm–3:15 pm | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
|
3:15 pm–3:30 pm | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
3:30 pm–5:15 pm | John |
FHIR Conformance |
|
5:15 pm–5:30 pm | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Friday, 4 May, 2018
Time
Oak Brook, IL (US Central, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:30 am–9:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
9:00 am–10:45 am | Vincent |
Metadata Handbook |
|
10:45 am–11:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00 am–12:30 pm | Mauro/Elliot |
Scheduling & Wrap-up
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12:30 pm–1:30 pm | — |
Lunch/Adjourn |
— |
February 2018 F2F – Volume 1 Meeting, 12–16 February 2018
TThis 5-day meeting is focused on a review of Vol. 1 content and overall approach for new work items.
- Meeting Location
- Note change of location
- Oslo Science Park, Gaustadalléen 21, 0349 Oslo
- WebEx information
- Meeting Number: 929 338 062
- Password: Ask co-chairs (mzanardini@consorzioarsenal.it , Elliot.Silver@mckesson.com )
- UPDATED LINK: Click here
- Support material
- Work item documents and support material may be found in the meeting folder
Agenda & Minutes
All times listed are tentative, and may be revised during the meeting—refresh often.
Time | Monday, 12 February | Tuesday, 13 February | Wednesday, 14 February | Thursday, 15 February | Friday, 16 February | |
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Oslo
(Central European, UTC+01:00) |
Oak Brook
(US Central, UTC−06:00) | |||||
08:30–08:45 | 1:30 am–1:45 am | Breakfast | Breakfast | Breakfast | Breakfast | Breakfast |
08:45–09:00 | 1:45 am–2:00 am | |||||
09:00–09:15 | 2:00 am–2:15 am | Introductions and Agenda Review | Joint session of ITI, PCC, QRPH, and PHARM | AS4 | XCMU | AS4 |
09:15–09:30 | 2:15 am–2:30 am | Metadata Cookbook | ||||
09:30–09:45 | 2:30 am–2:45 am | |||||
09:45–10:00 | 2:45 am–3:00 am | |||||
10:00–10:15 | 3:00 am–3:15 am | |||||
10:15–10:30 | 3:15 am–3:30 am | |||||
10:30–10:45 | 3:30 am–3:45 am | |||||
10:45–11:00 | 3:45 am–4:00 am | Morning Break | Morning Break | Morning Break | Morning Break | Morning Break |
11:00–11:15 | 4:00 am–4:15 am | FHIR Conformance | XCMU | FHIR Conformance | Metadata Cookbook | Scheduling and Wrap-up |
11:15–11:30 | 4:15 am–4:30 am | |||||
11:30–11:45 | 4:30 am–4:45 am | |||||
11:45–12:00 | 4:45 am–5:00 am | |||||
12:00–12:15 | 5:00 am–5:15 am | Lunch & Learn | ||||
12:15–12:30 | 5:15 am–5:30 am | |||||
12:30–12:45 | 5:30 am–5:45 am | Lunch | Lunch | Lunch | Lunch | |
12:45–13:00 | 5:45 am–6:00 am | |||||
13:00–13:15 | 6:00 am–6:15 am | |||||
13:15–13:30 | 6:15 am–6:30 am | |||||
13:30–13:45 | 6:30 am–6:45 am | XCMU | XCMU | Metadata Cookbook | AS4 | |
13:45–14:00 | 6:45 am–7:00 am | |||||
14:00–14:15 | 7:00 am–7:15 am | FHIR Conformance | ||||
14:15–14:30 | 7:15 am–7:30 am | |||||
14:30–14:45 | 7:30 am–7:45 am | |||||
14:45–15:00 | 7:45 am–8:00 am | |||||
15:00–15:15 | 8:00 am–8:15 am | |||||
15:15–15:30 | 8:15 am–8:30 am | |||||
15:30–15:45 | 8:30 am–8:45 am | Afternoon Break | Afternoon Break | Afternoon Break | Afternoon Break | |
15:45–16:00 | 8:45 am–9:00 am | AS4 | Metadata Cookbook | XCMU | FHIR Conformance | |
16:00–16:15 | 9:00 am–9:15 am | |||||
16:15–16:30 | 9:15 am–9:30 am | |||||
16:30–16:45 | 9:30 am–9:45 am | |||||
16:45–17:00* | 9:45 am–10:00 am* | |||||
17:00–17:15* | 10:00 am–10:15 am* | |||||
17:15–17:30* | 10:15 am–10:30 am* | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates | Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Monday, 12 February, 2018
Time | Leads | Activity | Notes | |
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Oslo
(Central European, UTC+01:00) |
Oak Brook
(US Central, UTC−06:00) | |||
08:30–09:00 | 1:30 am–2:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
09:00–09:15 | 2:00 am–2:15 am | Elliot/Mauro |
Introductions and Agenda Review |
Participants: Elliot Silver, Vincent Van Pelt, John Moerkhe, Umberto Cappellini, Lauren, Martin Schemler, Sylvie Colas, Miriam, Alberto, Luke, Lynn, Joe, Ken, Mauro , Gregorio, Dmytro, Karima, Pim , Vassily
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09:15–10:45 | 2:15 am–3:45 am | Vincent |
Metadata Cookbook |
Vincent lead the session. Th esession is focused in understanding the status of the work-item. |
10:45–11:00 | 3:45 am–4:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00–12:30 | 4:00 am–5:30 am | John |
FHIR Conformance |
FHIR:
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12:30–13:30 | 5:30 am–6:30 am | — |
Lunch |
— |
13:30–15:30 | 6:30 am–8:30 am | Dmytro |
XCMU |
Dmytro lead the session. The session starts with an high level presentation of the profile. Scope: starts from change confCode. Trimmed down to not structural elements.
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15:30–15:45 | 8:30 am–8:45 am | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
15:45–17:15 | 8:45 am–10:15 am | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
Charles and Massi lead the discussion. Goal of this session is to have a high level presentation of the AS4 work-item. |
17:15–17:30 | 10:15 am–10:30 am | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Homework: dmitro will update document in accordance to discussion we had. Tomorrow , standards selection and grouping. People off-line should understand all the actor behaviors in order to have a complete standard selection. Bill will present version numbering usage in MU, this might affect scoping in vol.1 and tech solution. |
Tuesday, 13 February, 2018
Time | Leads | Activity | Notes | |
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Oslo
(Central European, UTC+01:00) |
Oak Brook
(US Central, UTC−06:00) | |||
08:30–09:00 | 1:30 am–2:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
09:00–10:45 | 2:00 am–3:45 am | See Pharmacy Agenda |
Joint session of ITI, PCC, QRPH, and PHARM |
See [Pharmacy minute] |
10:45–11:00 | 3:45 am–4:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00–12:00 | 4:00 am–5:00 am | Dmytro |
XCMU |
Participants: Lynn , Ken , Bill, Joe, Lamy , Marie , Sylvie, Tarik, Daniel, John, Charles , Umberto , Massimiliano , Elliot, Mauro , Martin |
12:00–13:30 | 5:00 am–6:30 am | — |
Lunch & Learn |
— |
13:30–14:00 | 6:30 am–7:00 am | Dmytro |
XCMU |
Dmytro did not join the call. Eliot/Tarik lead the session.
We have classification of metadata There is a transaction between Ini and Responding GW: are there any other technical implications or interactions? There is a need to formalize the interactions in the initiating site. Maybe we can just say that initiating gw has the magic, and we should not define how to trigger this transaction. Something to take in conosideration during Standards selection will be to choose if we want to make multiple updates to multiple communities, do we need to use multiple transaction? Decision: XCMU Administrator can talk to the Registry directly. It is impoprtant to provide a set of error conditions that help administrator and initiating to understand what is going on. Elliot will send the content discussed in the session to Dmytro and Tarik, as a menthor, will update him in order to do the needed updates to the document.
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14:00–15:30 | 7:00 am–8:30 am | John |
FHIR Conformance |
Luke lead the session.
Clear direction and bullet point of what are the principles. Luke presented mCSD conformanceResources , Location.structureDefinition
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15:30–15:45 | 8:30 am–8:45 am | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
15:45–17:15 | 8:45 am–10:15 am | Vincent |
Metadata Cookbook |
Vincent lead the session. Focus on the approach and on the focus of the cookbook. |
17:15–17:30 | 10:15 am–10:30 am | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Wednesday, 14 February, 2018
Time | Leads | Activity | Notes | |
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Oslo
(Central European, UTC+01:00) |
Oak Brook
(US Central, UTC−06:00) | |||
08:30–09:00 | 1:30 am–2:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
09:00–10:45 | 2:00 am–3:45 am | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
Participants: Bill , Mauro, Gregorio , Charles , Tarik, Elliot , Ken , Lynn , Luke , Sylivie , Mary , Umberto , Massimiliano , John , Joe , Vincent , Pim , Dmytro , AS4: Session extended in order to come out form the meeing with the list of acceptable solutions. We do not need to take decision during this meeting, but we should understand all the possibilities. |
10:45–11:00 | 3:45 am–4:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00–12:30 | 4:00 am–5:30 am | John |
FHIR Conformance |
AS4 continuation. |
12:30–13:30 | 5:30 am–6:30 am | — |
Lunch |
— |
13:30–15:30 | 6:30 am–8:30 am | Vincent |
Metadata Cookbook |
Vincent lead this session. Focus on the approach: idea is to define the principles. |
15:30–15:45 | 8:30 am–8:45 am | — |
Afternoon Break |
— |
15:45–17:15 | 8:45 am–10:15 am | Dmytro |
XCMU |
Dmytro presented updates done in accordance to the previous session. |
17:15–17:30 | 10:15 am–10:30 am | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Thursday, 15 February, 2018
Time | Leads | Activity | Notes | |
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Oslo
(Central European, UTC+01:00) |
Oak Brook
(US Central, UTC−06:00) | |||
08:30–09:00 | 1:30 am–2:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
— |
09:00–10:45 | 2:00 am–3:45 am | Dmytro |
XCMU |
Participants: Martin, Marie , Sylvie , Elliot, Mauro , John , bill , lynn ., ken , Vincent, Umberto, Tarik , Dmitro , Joe ,
We are not going to touch MU, even that we will have an overlap with XCMU … we need to test that the overlap does not break MU. Discussion about the versioning capabilities in MU , should we support these ? We know that MU will require CP … the result could be a new work item on MU or a list of CPs. One of the most important points: Message encoding will be kept unchanged… The Tech cmte agreed on a plan for vol.2 of XCMU: Copy and erase pattern, modify Expected actions and simplyfing IIT-57. Define a new transaction with a new number. It is important to ttry to not change message encoding and not change soapAction, and this transaction will have cros-community flavors. We need to change the name of the supplmentent “MU light“ . We need to pay arttention to communication to our readers and to not create conflict between ITI-57 and the new transaction. Accepting a future work-item to put resources in future on MU (in order to fix the heavy part of MU). If this work-item light will become crazy, we will kill it. We will try to be silent on trivial issues related to MU heavy. |
10:45–11:00 | 3:45 am–4:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
— |
11:00–12:30 | 4:00 am–5:30 am | Vincent |
Metadata Cookbook |
Metadata cookbook: Review of principles list. Next step for Metadata handbook: idea is to go thorugh list of metadata in order to see if we can add principles about each of them , and following this principles put in an appendix 2 3 examples of applications of this principles. Organize biweekly calls, have a table of contents. Identify a well known point in the ftp for the codes (library) , work out on the structure of this folders tree… figure out how to publish this content because it is of interest (one of the primary goal of the original proposal).
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12:30–13:30 | 5:30 am–6:30 am | — |
Lunch |
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13:30–15:30 | 6:30 am–8:30 am | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
Editorial approach reviewed by the cmte: go with existing check references from tomorrow morning Tomorrow finish assessment , make a final decision based on the assessment. |
15:30–15:45 | 8:30 am–8:45 am | — |
Afternoon Break |
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15:45–17:15 | 8:45 am–10:15 am | John |
FHIR Conformance |
Luke lead the session and presents mCSD conformance resources (use a table to describe the combination of option and related conformance requirements). |
17:15–17:30 | 10:15 am–10:30 am | Elliot/Mauro |
Wrap-up, homework, agenda updates |
Friday, 16 February, 2018
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Oslo
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Oak Brook
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08:30–09:00 | 1:30 am–2:00 am | — |
Breakfast |
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09:00–10:45 | 2:00 am–3:45 am | Charles/Pim |
AS4 |
Participants: Elliot Tarik mauro gregorio Sylvie Marie ohn , Massimiliano Pim Charles Daniel, Martin Lynn, Ken ACTION ITEM: Charles will update the wiki to add web services tags. Option: restructure the whole Appendix V but do not change the landing V.5. There is table V.2.4.1 , can be moved : update known references , and add name (known as ….) in the new place. Work out a new outline for appendix V. Make this appendix V more interesting for implementers … right know till V.5 is not interesting for them… so we need to identify if the 1-4 are of interest , ACTION ITEM: the co-chairs will organize a call with implementers in order to see if we need to re-write the text or just do not care of it. Massi will work out a text about this… not using the word AS4 in this call for feedback. And we We will present a new outline. SECOND TRACK: Another call for feedback , in which we say that we are addressing async functionalities, ask for people that has implemented it in IHE products. If you want to be engaged in this . (explicitly one hour involvement on the topic on a targeted call). Give us info if you did it , if you want participate do it. ACTION ITEM: Charles will send the mail to Mauro and Elliot for review. If possible with outline of Appendix V. ACTION ITEM: Elliot will send an email to RAD in order to check if they really do not intend to support async in XCA-I. In that case they should be specific on the Sync requirements.
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10:45–11:00 | 3:45 am–4:00 am | — |
Morning Break |
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11:00–12:30 | 4:00 am–5:30 am | Mauro/Elliot |
Scheduling, Miscellaneous, and Wrap-up
Planning Cmte issues to be discussed:
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ACTION ITEM: Mauro will send out an email to editors to see if they agree on integrate CPs as done in 2017, Lynn provdes on Monday the list of profiles that need to be updated. PROFILE IN FT: DEN advocate john and Manuel. Delayed Document assembly: Daniel advocate those shall be evaluated during planning decision call. (the advocate shall fill the spreadsheet in order to see if the meet FT criteria) ACITON ITEM: The PLanning co-chair will organize a planning call in order to discuss the criteria to move in final text for the two supplements identified. Audit events in gazelle: process in progress, we are not ready to use this approach formally in this cycle. Probably the process of maitaninance will be aligned to the outputs of the FHIR conformance work items. We will use gazelle this cycle. But we will keep also the pdf version. The lack in the tool: 1) We do not have role based profiling. 2) Comment field structured not managed. We probably will come out with a pre-requisites on tools usable to manage our publications. During the next F2F we shall discuss Rob gap. Planning questions: Charles provide useful feedback in order to report to sponsors.
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12:30–13:30 | 5:30 am–6:30 am | — |
Lunch/Adjourn |
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November 2017 F2F – Technical Profile Kick-Off Meeting, 15–16 November 2017
This 2-day meeting is focused on a review of the detailed profile proposals, and selection of work items for the 2016/2017 year based on committee resources and technical readiness.
- Meeting Location
- RSNA Building, Oak Brook, IL
- WebEx information for this meeting is
- Meeting Number: 927 055 967
- Password: Ask Jeremiah Myers (jmyers@himss.org)
- Link: Click here
- Support material
- Profile proposals and other support information may be found in the meeting folder
Agenda & Minutes
All times listed are tentative, and may be revised during the meeting—refresh often.
Wednesday, 15 November, 2017
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — |
8:30 am–9:00 am | Elliot/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review
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Participants: Jeremiah Meyers (HIMMS), Joey Lamy (AEIGS) , John Moherke (By Light), Pim van der Eijk (EU Commission) Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare), Chris Melo (Philips), Lawrence , Ben , Vassil Peytchev (EPIC), Matt Blackmon (Sequoia Prj), Celina Roth (HIMMS), Dymitro Rud (IHE Swiss), Ken Meyer (IBM Watson), Luke Duncan (IntraHealth), Lynn Felhofer (ITI Tech Manager), Tarik Idris (ICW), Robert Horn (AGFA), Karima Blounquard (IHE Europe) , Anna Orlova (AHIMA), Massimiliano Masi (EU Commission / Tiani). Sponsor communications: details about the vol.1 meeting will be shared soon by the sponsors. The meeting will be held in Oslo in February (see details about meeting dates above). Elliot reviewed the agenda. Co-chairs ask new profile editors, if they are aware of patents that affects standards selected. If anyone knows it, please make Co-chairs aware. This does not mean that this is a problem and we can either: find out a work-around, or manage licensing via IHE international. The patent disclosure is on the WIKI: Patent Disclosure. Plan for the actual F2F: We will start from the Planning Cmte ranking, and we will evaluate each proposal and will identify the amount of work we can do, and identify the bandwidth of the cmte. Requirements for Authors: have regular tcons between f2f meetings. In-person participation to f2f is strongly recommended but not required. |
9:00 am–10:00 am | Dmytro Rud | Cross-Community Metadata Update (XCMU) |
XCMU – Aimed to define single transaction very similar to iti-57, adding the target Community ID. Interest has been expressed by Germany, Austria and IHE Europe. The cmte still needs to clarify the scope: Is the focus related to the management of structural or non-structural ? The initial prposal of Dymitro:
Dymitro is asked to restrict the number of use-cases: to only document metadata and document deprecation, avoiding change of structural metadata in the first scenario (a first analysis pointed out that we should EXCLUDE: patientID, documentUniqueId, repositoryUniqueId, objectType, hash , size ... we complete analysis will be done during the working calls). The Idea of the cmte is to come out with a safe sub-set of metadata and se-cases, that will make easy to do the profiling. NOTE: Attention should be put on SourceId, actual implementations of the Registry have a list of admitted sourceIDs, this is not correct in a cross-community environment. Lynn raise the point that we are making a supplement to a supplement of XDS. We have to keep this separate from MU. The relationship should be strongly taken in consideration. Maybe this work-item should be renamed in order to keep it separate from MU. On the other hand, it could open up an opportunity to work on MU, in order to change it, refactoring MU… In that case the size of the work-item will increase drastically. We should keep the scope controlled. Removal of document from Repo is not in scope. Dymitro : author , and IHE Swiss will contribute with co-editors. Mentor identifyied: Tarik. Reviewers: Juerg Bleuer , Tony Schaller (IHE Swiss), Tarik (ICW).
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10:00 am–11:15 am | Massimiliano Masi / Charles Parisot | AS4 extensions for Document Sharing |
Option in development:
If we just take the security layer instead of the SOAP header option, this will be more isolated and will not impact actual implementation. THIS CANNOT BE GRANTED, maybe change in soap header will be still needed. We can limit the AS4 usage between the initiating and responding gateways. This will make things more contained. There is agreement on this requirement. Are Vendors oriented to one specific option among the three? This is not known right now. This will be taken in consideration during the tech evaluation. DEADLINE for the decision and criteria for the decision should be identified clearly. Test tools are not an issue. An open source tool is already available online and EU commission will invest in combine IHE test tool and AS4 tools. The impact could be in iti-19 on the WS-I Async part of the spec. Massimiliano: primary Author. Charles mentor . Reviewers: Vassil , Sylvie , Gregorio/Giacomo (Arsenàl.IT), Forcare (???) , Dave Franken (???), Intersystems (???).
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11:15 am–11:30 am | — | Morning Break | — |
11:30 am–12:30 am | Rob Horn | RESTful ATNA |
The core of the proposal is to identify Two transport mechanisms for the same transaction (syslog and RESTful/FHIR). Both the specification needs to be locked to the same abstract definition, so that we can continue the profiling in a transport independent manner. This could impact ITI20. ANSWER: Rfc3881 is the abstract model to take in consideration. Re-factore ITI-20 could be in scope: decided tomorrow based on the resources available. Maybe use one transaction with two flavors… Author: Rob , no mentor needed; Reviewers: Mauro, Brad, |
12:30 am–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — |
1:30 pm–2:30 pm | Vincent van Pelt | Metadata Guidelines |
Goal is to reuse the content drafted by the European Metadata task-force and:
Figure out a methodology to create the AD, and best practice for define ValueSets. What are we gonna create? A Process and an example of application of that process. A useful valuSet and a methodology in order to extend/maintain it. PRIMARY GOAL: Principle for the design for metadata; SECONDARY GOAL: set of typical applications of those principles, the harmonization of the local ValueStes. (Vincent wants this task to be really particle: share of different value sets, mapping and analysis...). This will be done by a subgroup in parallel. We just need to have examples… in order to put the methodology in concrete. Delivering the both it is considered important for the work-group. For the secondary goal , we have to identify a process in order to ballot a valueSets armonization. ... NOT MORE WP, BUT HANDBOOK… How do we deal with not perfect armonization? How about what is already deployed? Is this in scope. Vince said that can be easily covered. CMTE CONSIDERED THIS OUT OF SCOPE. Vincent: author ; mentor: Didi, reviewers: many (Sequoia , many European countries, need to extend to HIE vendors)
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2:30 pm–3:30 pm | Elliot Silver | FHIR Tooling |
Creation od Conformance resources: Trial a process and figure out how to manage the process. For the next year we will include in the deliverable for selected authors the production of this content, and we will follow a process in order to review and maintain it. The process is not a deliverable for us. It will come from the IHE-HL7 Fhir group. Work-item is to follow that guidance and make it in concrete in the ITI domain and within the ITI process. We can reverse the output, and maybe provide guidance to IHE at higher level in order to define how to do a Public comment on conformance statement objects (how to formalize a ballot for an XML object). For this year this is still informative. This is not manageable like the actual implementation material. We should take in mind that someone will take this as normative, but we will tag it as informative. Automated normative Test scripts are excluded. Opportunity to provide developers the structure definition for the NA CAT and collect feedback . Lynn will disseminate the existence of this content. Elliot as orchestrator of the WorkItem , he will create a dashboard to track status of activities and editors identified for each specific FHIR based profile. Meriem from ASIP will help Elliot as editor. |
3:30 pm–3:45 pm | — | Afternoon Break | — |
3:45 pm–4:15 pm | Anna Orlova | Patient Administration (PAM) US national extension |
November 2nd the National Extension has been presented to IHE USA and they approved to work on it. Anna expects by April the doc will be ready for review. No reason to contact the International cmte until it is completed, and when IHE USA has agreed on the content of the document. Probably we will dedicate time on July to the doc. Primary contact: Anna. Anna will develop, Mentor: Ben. IHE US will approve, and after that will come to us for Review and integration. |
4:15 pm–4:30 pm | Elliot/Mauro | Review, homework, agenda updates | |
4:30 pm–5:30 pm | TBD | Joint session of ITI/PCC/QRPH Technical
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In the Room:
Jeremiah Myers (HIMSS), Joe Lamy, Pim Van Der Berg, Chris Melo, Mauro Zanardini, Raffaele Giordano, Sylvie Colas, Ben Levy, Chaub Perisot, Matt Blackmon, Nichole Drye-Mayo, Lauren Lemioux, Elliot Silver, Alaina Elliot, Laura Bright, Maddie Mailly, John Stam, Derek Ritz, Lori Forquet, Didi Davis, Emma Jones, Gila Pyke, Thomson Kuhn, Caila Brander, Andrea Fourquet, Michael Clifton, Amit Popat, Denise Downing, Lauren Groden,
Lynn Felhofer, Ken Meyer
PCC
QRPH:
ITI (has not completed the choice yet):
PlanningDefinition: merge of two work-items, and Mauro (form ITI) Raffaele will support that work-item. Derek: IHE profiles are taken in implementation in lower incoming countries. Good uptake , but development countries does not have deployments cmtes. OPenHIE, produces open sources tool based on IHE… with local deployment cmtes we can reduce the costs … not having deployment commete we cannot figure out what is used in those places… Involve this emerging countries in define national extensions will be really useful in order to reduce costs, and in order to expand the bandwidth of IHE International. Another point is that we, as IHE, should figure out how to build profiles on WHO standards… Deployment side of IHE, should take this in considerations. There is no problem in create virtual of countries (e.g. East Africa, ecc...)… they need to share spec and share the using of specification. And we can publish in VOL.4 , but things in vol.4 need to be owned by a deployment cmte. Moving this thematic to the GDC is important. Gila: raised the point that they are drafting a proposal with two transactions, that allow the sending of content using FHIR and using CDA. Each mechanism has different actors. Why two solutions for the same thing? IHE should eliminate confusion. The decision to do it anyway can be made by PCC, ITI suggest to clearly document the reasons for the choice. ITI is coming out with a Conformance Resource ballot process. ITI would like to engage other domains in our review process. FHIR – IHE group created a prototype of process for creation and management of conformance resources. That is available and ITI will follow this, with the idea to improve it. John, offered to test the same process inside PCC or QRPH domain for old o new supplements. ITI is looking for people that want to be involved in ITI process. Denise: ask for FHIR tutorials. Guidance on specific resources (e.g. Provenance). John offers himself to answer any question. http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/Guidance_on_writing_Profiles_of_FHIR
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Thursday, 16 November, 2017
Time
Oak Brook (CST, UTC−06:00) |
Leads | Activity | Notes |
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8:00 am–8:30 am | — | Breakfast | — |
8:30 am–8:45 am | Elliot/Mauro | Introductions and Agenda Review
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Participants: Ruth (GE Healthcare) , Tarik Idris (ICW) , Massimiliano Masi (EU Commission/Tiani), Luke Duncan (IntraHealth), Lynn Felhofer (ITI Tech Manager), Rob Horn (AGFA), Karima Blounquard (IHE Europe), Ken Meyer (IBM Watson) , Maarten Daniels (???), Pim van der Eijk (Sonnenglanz Consulting BV), John Moherke (By Light), Joe Lamy (AEGIS), Charles Parisot (EU Commision), Elliot Silver (Change Healthcare), Mauro Zanardini (Arsenàl.IT) , Sylvie Colas (ASIP Sanitè), Ben Levy (Corpoint Healthcare) , Vassil Peytchev (EPIC), Matt Bowman (Sequoia Prj). |
8:45 am–9:15 am | Lynn Felhofer | Technical Framework Maintenance proposal
Alternatives for F2F TF Maintenance time:
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For the 2017-18 publication cycle, TF Maintenance/CPs will only be done in tcons; no F2F time. |
9:15 am–10:15 am | Ruth Berge | Survey of Network Interfaces Form (SNIF) |
The extensibility of the solution should be taken in consideration. The scope of the proposal should be only to define the content of a file, and we will use other already defined mechanisms to share this file (e.g. NPSFm). The focus is not only on Hospital use-cases, but would also cover broader use-cases, such as HIE config. Author: Ruth , mentor: John. Reviewer: Sequoia, Ben, Intermountain , Mayo. |
10:15 am–11:00 am | Elliot/Mauro | Complete evaluation matrix
Decide on items work to be recommended to ITI Planning Committee |
The cmte reviewed the Tech evaluation matrix.
John moved motion to accept all except ATNA Put(and manitnanece excluded form F2f time) , Ben seconded it. Abstentions: Chris Objections: Tarik , Rob , Ken John Supsended the motion and ask people against the previous motion to submit another bundle. Amendment : Rob suggested to postpone SNIF (in addition to ATNA), Ken and Tarik approve John accepted amendment, Tarik , Ken , Rob : turned their vote in Approve. Abstain : Charles , Mauro , Pim No objections. |
11:00 am–11:15 am | — | Morning Break | — |
11:15 am–12:00 noon | Elliot/Mauro | Continue profile evaluation/selection | |
12:00 noon–12:30 pm | John/Daniel | Joint session with ITI Planning Committee
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ITI TEch presents the final decision made. ITI Plan approve. |
12:30 pm–1:30 pm | — | Lunch | — |
1:30 pm–2:00 pm | Mauro/Elliot | Schedule T-cons through to February F2F
Remind authors of expectations |
tcons scheduled |
2:00 pm–3:30 pm | Lynn Felhofer | Technical Framework Maintenance working session
Assigned CPs ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/1_Assigned/
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Swan song of TF Mtce during F2F mtgs this cycle: These CPs were discussed. Next step identified:
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3:30 pm–3:45 pm | Mauro/Elliot — |
Wrap-up, Adjorn Afternoon "Break" |
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