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'''Scheduled Worflow II:''' ''Reviewed the open issues in [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Radiology/iheyr10-2008/Technical_Cmte/2008-07-15_tc_tcon/ihe_supp_SWFII_vol1_2008-06-03_draft__commentsToTC_CDi.doc Chris Lindop's draft document with comments from Christoph Dickmann] to expand discussion in preparation for creating revised version of profile.''
'''Scheduled Worflow II:''' ''Reviewed the open issues in [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Radiology/iheyr10-2008/Technical_Cmte/2008-07-15_tc_tcon/ihe_supp_SWFII_vol1_2008-06-03_draft__commentsToTC_CDi.doc Chris Lindop's draft document with comments from Christoph Dickmann] to expand discussion in preparation for creating revised version of profile.''


* '''Open Issues:'''
===Review of Open Issues===
* '''Radiology Acquisition Workflow''' may be a better name for a new profile than SWF II


'''1. Image Manager/Image Archive Actor Grouping'''
'''1. Image Manager/Image Archive Actor Grouping'''
* '''Radiology Acquisition Workflow''' may be a better name for a new profile than SWF II
 
* The question is whether to modify the way Image Manager and Image Archive are defined to either add transactions between them or possibly remove Image Archive from the profile
* In practical terms, the current framework defines interactions with the Image Manager (even Q/R should go through the Image Manager so it can update the demographics as needed).  It is left as a task for the Image Manager vendor to either embed an Image Archive in the Image Manager, or if they want to use a separate box as the Image Archive, they handle that integration themself.
** One could argue we should simply remove the Image Archive actor from the profile, or make it a dashed-line actor to more clearly indicate we really don't address it.
* Extracting the Image Archive would require defining the interface by which the Image Manager drives the Image Archive.
** Transactions between Image Manager and Image Archive might be extensions of current DICOM transactions or non-DICOM (eg, HL7 or SQL)
** Transactions between Image Manager and Image Archive might be extensions of current DICOM transactions or non-DICOM (eg, HL7 or SQL)
* '''Use Cases for Defining Behaviors Between Image Manager and Image Archive:'''
** They would have to address deletion of data
::1. Enable "plug and play" interoperability so sites could easily add or replace archives
** Our current approach of having the Image Manager handle PIR might require prohibiting the Image Archive from interacting directly with clients which might be a problem
::::*
 
::2. Allow replacement of Image Manager without migration/replacement of Archive
* '''Use Cases for Breaking Out the Image Archive:'''
::3. General purpose archive that could store reports and other medical documents as well as images
::1. "Plug and play" interoperability so sites could choose/replace the Image Archive independant of the Image Manager
::4. Federation of Archives: Does this use case belong in a workflow profile? Federation of Image Managers is probably not feasible.
::2. Replacement of Image Manager while avoiding migration/replacement of Archive
::3. Use a General Purpose archive that could store reports and other medical documents as well as images (e.g. XDS Repository, Enterprise Datastore, etc)
::4. Access multiple Federated Archives from a single Image Manager (The Multi-Source option was a bit of a kludge).
:::* Federated Image Managers doens't really make sense.  One manages departmental workflow.  Different departments federate via the Order Placer/Order Filler level.
::5. Distance reading: single archive shared by multiple image managers
::5. Distance reading: single archive shared by multiple image managers


'''2. Define grouping and roles of Department System Scheduler and Order Filler'''
'''2. Define grouping and roles of Department System Scheduler and Order Filler'''
::* Enable scheduling to be managed by enterprise scheduling systems
 
::* Possibly define Department Workflow Manager with great scheduling capabilities than current DSS: ability to coordinate acquisition with post-processing and reporting, etc.
::* The DSS/Order Filler is really just an Order Filler.  It manages a worklist.  It records when things get done.  There are attributes in the worklist for date/time/equipment but IHE mandates very little "scheduling".
:::* The current mapping to procedure steps is more about "procedure planning" than "scheduling"
::* We could introduce a Scheduler actor and think about more sophisticated enterprise scheduling (but that may be more of an ITI piece of work)
::* We could introduce a Department Workflow Manager actor to do more sophisticated workflow coordination across acquisition, post-processing and reporting, as described in the whitepaper.
::* Currently the text does not include a clear definition of the roles of the DSS and OF actors
::* Currently the text does not include a clear definition of the roles of the DSS and OF actors
::* Perhaps rename current limited functionality as "procedure planning" rather than "scheduling"
::* Clarify or remove sections that refer to DSS independently
::* Clarify or remove sections that refer to DSS independently


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::* Work through HL7 Task Force to map radiology requirements to PAM; develop appendix to be shared by ITI and Rad TFs describing relationship
::* Work through HL7 Task Force to map radiology requirements to PAM; develop appendix to be shared by ITI and Rad TFs describing relationship
::* Exclude ADT from Rad AWF
::* Exclude ADT from Rad AWF
::*  
::* Probably include Order Placer in Rad AWF
::* PAM provides ID management (including merge function) and encounter management
::* PAM does not provide order management capabilities
::::* DSS can get order information directly from ADT for scheduling
::* DSS/OF and OP actors would both have to be grouped with Receiver actor to get patient ID, demographics, etc.
::* Possible to replace Patient Update transaction to Order Filler (RAD-12)with Patient Demographic Query transactions?
::::* PAM messages to Order Placer
::::* Legacy systems won't have PDQ capabilities
::* Need to describe how OP and OF reconcile the information provided in order with information provided in PAM
::* Identify "source of truth" for each class of data: for registration info, IDs and demographics, probably ADT
::* OF has to manage patient ID info during course of task, but not maintain it persistently
::::* Report Repository and Image Mgr/Archive should have mechanism to update: currently provided by Order Filler in PIR
::* Reasons to refactor registration messages and reference PAM: don't diverge from model and benefit from updates made to PAM
::* Reference PAM or just lift transactions into Rad AWF?
 
'''4. Remove PPS Manager'''
::* Move its functions to Order Filler, which becomes source of info on modality status
::* CAD devices' needs have to be considered in working through this change: they also need modality status
::* Image Manager currently uses MPPS for group case, PGP
::* Require modalities to send information to OF; make other destinations optional
::* Closes loop for Modality Worklist
 
'''5. Common Personnel Identity'''
::* Modality needs information about tech at console
::* Currently only provided unstructured name field in MPPS
::::* Possible to incorporate Personnel White Pages transactions?
::::* Get DICOM to add coded value for personnel in MPPS?
::* Need to meet differing requirements for personnel identification of large and small sites
::* Do not want to require PWP, but rather coordinate with AWF transactions
::* Make sure to add "all other attributes" value to MPPS code tables
::* Request information from users: What is broken? Does selected approach address it?
 
'''6. Remove Options'''
::* Make hard requirements where appropriate
::* Basic functionality of profile should be available without options in place; options add supplementary features
::* Replace some options with specific conditional requirements
 
'''7. Charge Posting'''
::* How to address billing/materials management option in Rad AWF?
::* Move the option/condition requirements to Charge Posting profile?
::* Examine what information billing systems need to do their work (include MPPS status info?)
 
'''8. Fold PIR into Rad AWF'''
::* Leads to bigger issue of how data gets updated with respect to PAM and Enterprise Information Systems
::* Need to define how each actor responds to updates
 
 
* '''Next Tcon: Thursday, August 14, 11:30am-1:30pm CDT'''
 
 





Latest revision as of 20:45, 15 July 2008

Attendees

  • Ruth Berge, GE
  • Christoph Dickmann, Siemens
  • Dick Donker, Philips
  • Dave Heaney, McKesson
  • Mike Henderson, Eastern Informatics
  • Chris Lindop, GE
  • Paul Seifert, Agfa
  • Chris Carr, RSNA


Minutes

Scheduled Worflow II: Reviewed the open issues in Chris Lindop's draft document with comments from Christoph Dickmann to expand discussion in preparation for creating revised version of profile.

Review of Open Issues

  • Radiology Acquisition Workflow may be a better name for a new profile than SWF II

1. Image Manager/Image Archive Actor Grouping

  • In practical terms, the current framework defines interactions with the Image Manager (even Q/R should go through the Image Manager so it can update the demographics as needed). It is left as a task for the Image Manager vendor to either embed an Image Archive in the Image Manager, or if they want to use a separate box as the Image Archive, they handle that integration themself.
    • One could argue we should simply remove the Image Archive actor from the profile, or make it a dashed-line actor to more clearly indicate we really don't address it.
  • Extracting the Image Archive would require defining the interface by which the Image Manager drives the Image Archive.
    • Transactions between Image Manager and Image Archive might be extensions of current DICOM transactions or non-DICOM (eg, HL7 or SQL)
    • They would have to address deletion of data
    • Our current approach of having the Image Manager handle PIR might require prohibiting the Image Archive from interacting directly with clients which might be a problem
  • Use Cases for Breaking Out the Image Archive:
1. "Plug and play" interoperability so sites could choose/replace the Image Archive independant of the Image Manager
2. Replacement of Image Manager while avoiding migration/replacement of Archive
3. Use a General Purpose archive that could store reports and other medical documents as well as images (e.g. XDS Repository, Enterprise Datastore, etc)
4. Access multiple Federated Archives from a single Image Manager (The Multi-Source option was a bit of a kludge).
  • Federated Image Managers doens't really make sense. One manages departmental workflow. Different departments federate via the Order Placer/Order Filler level.
5. Distance reading: single archive shared by multiple image managers


2. Define grouping and roles of Department System Scheduler and Order Filler

  • The DSS/Order Filler is really just an Order Filler. It manages a worklist. It records when things get done. There are attributes in the worklist for date/time/equipment but IHE mandates very little "scheduling".
  • The current mapping to procedure steps is more about "procedure planning" than "scheduling"
  • We could introduce a Scheduler actor and think about more sophisticated enterprise scheduling (but that may be more of an ITI piece of work)
  • We could introduce a Department Workflow Manager actor to do more sophisticated workflow coordination across acquisition, post-processing and reporting, as described in the whitepaper.
  • Currently the text does not include a clear definition of the roles of the DSS and OF actors
  • Clarify or remove sections that refer to DSS independently

3. Reconcile ADT transactions with PAM and/or refactor and replace with references to PAM

  • Some required transactions in SWF are optional in PAM: possible to add Radiology-specific "extensions" (ie, constraints) to PAM?
  • Work through HL7 Task Force to map radiology requirements to PAM; develop appendix to be shared by ITI and Rad TFs describing relationship
  • Exclude ADT from Rad AWF
  • Probably include Order Placer in Rad AWF
  • PAM provides ID management (including merge function) and encounter management
  • PAM does not provide order management capabilities
  • DSS can get order information directly from ADT for scheduling
  • DSS/OF and OP actors would both have to be grouped with Receiver actor to get patient ID, demographics, etc.
  • Possible to replace Patient Update transaction to Order Filler (RAD-12)with Patient Demographic Query transactions?
  • PAM messages to Order Placer
  • Legacy systems won't have PDQ capabilities
  • Need to describe how OP and OF reconcile the information provided in order with information provided in PAM
  • Identify "source of truth" for each class of data: for registration info, IDs and demographics, probably ADT
  • OF has to manage patient ID info during course of task, but not maintain it persistently
  • Report Repository and Image Mgr/Archive should have mechanism to update: currently provided by Order Filler in PIR
  • Reasons to refactor registration messages and reference PAM: don't diverge from model and benefit from updates made to PAM
  • Reference PAM or just lift transactions into Rad AWF?

4. Remove PPS Manager

  • Move its functions to Order Filler, which becomes source of info on modality status
  • CAD devices' needs have to be considered in working through this change: they also need modality status
  • Image Manager currently uses MPPS for group case, PGP
  • Require modalities to send information to OF; make other destinations optional
  • Closes loop for Modality Worklist

5. Common Personnel Identity

  • Modality needs information about tech at console
  • Currently only provided unstructured name field in MPPS
  • Possible to incorporate Personnel White Pages transactions?
  • Get DICOM to add coded value for personnel in MPPS?
  • Need to meet differing requirements for personnel identification of large and small sites
  • Do not want to require PWP, but rather coordinate with AWF transactions
  • Make sure to add "all other attributes" value to MPPS code tables
  • Request information from users: What is broken? Does selected approach address it?

6. Remove Options

  • Make hard requirements where appropriate
  • Basic functionality of profile should be available without options in place; options add supplementary features
  • Replace some options with specific conditional requirements

7. Charge Posting

  • How to address billing/materials management option in Rad AWF?
  • Move the option/condition requirements to Charge Posting profile?
  • Examine what information billing systems need to do their work (include MPPS status info?)

8. Fold PIR into Rad AWF

  • Leads to bigger issue of how data gets updated with respect to PAM and Enterprise Information Systems
  • Need to define how each actor responds to updates


  • Next Tcon: Thursday, August 14, 11:30am-1:30pm CDT



Radiology Technical Committee