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*Andrei Leontiev
 
*Andrei Leontiev
 
*Wim Corbijn
 
*Wim Corbijn
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*Antje Schroeder
 
*Brad Genereaux
 
*Brad Genereaux
 
*Lynn Felhofer
 
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Profile Name: Realtime Bidirectional Communication for Interactive Multimedia Reporting
 
* Describe gaps in Use Case coverage
 
* Describe gaps in Use Case coverage
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: Have prepared a good set of Use Cases - working on the list of example apps (might surface additional use case flavor)
 
* Review ALL "uncertainty points" in the evaluation. Is there a resolution plan for each?
 
* Review ALL "uncertainty points" in the evaluation. Is there a resolution plan for each?
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: Done. Feels like yes.
 
* Do the effort points in the evaluation still seem right?  
 
* Do the effort points in the evaluation still seem right?  
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: Might be low. We've surfaced more transactions but hopefully they are mechanical. So more page effort, but maybe not more complexity.
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: Use cases expanded from estimate, need to map the "layers" - GUI layer, transaction layer, hub state layer, persistent objects
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: Did not have (enough) points for "exploring/understanding/learning FHIRcast(+contexts+sessions+content+model)"
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: TODO Add line item in the template. Be careful not to double count.
 
* Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?
 
* Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?
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: Additional transactions identified (e.g. select, get current context, websocket channel connection), learning sessions,
 
* Describe unresolved technical issues/tasks
 
* Describe unresolved technical issues/tasks
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: A number of TODOs, observation-resource mapping
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: Reporting app catalog
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: Confirm FHIRcast Information Model (Session->Context->Active Context->Content->Resources->...) and mapping to our Use Cases
 
* Describe potential practical issues
 
* Describe potential practical issues
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: Performance questions for high bandwidth tight integration of say two servers (PACS-Reporting)
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: Documentation questions with showing the mapping/relating the 4 layers when using in the IG platform
 
* Review the open issue list. Does it feel complete
 
* Review the open issue list. Does it feel complete
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: Haven't consolidated the open issue list yet. Can't think of any gaps.
 
* Which open issues feel most risky; what other risks exist?
 
* Which open issues feel most risky; what other risks exist?
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: (Hard to assess, don't have the actual list)
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: Perhaps questions about the hub maintaining current view rather than "event sourcing" representation (Kinson is talking to Eric)
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: Process-wise, time to review might be a challenge
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: Maybe risk that our live analysis missed something - were developing the content rather than reviewing draft text
 
* How is the work fitting in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)
 
* How is the work fitting in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)
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: A bit tight since we went overtime on many of the sessions. Will check the percentage later.
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: Ultimately we got through what we needed to.
 
* How does the scope feel? (Room to expand? Just right? Pretty ambitious?)
 
* How does the scope feel? (Room to expand? Just right? Pretty ambitious?)
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: Mostly OK. Working to prevent scope creep. Feels like it might be a long doc once it's all in a way people can understand.
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: Make sure we review everything, but hopefully the IG makes it navigable.
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: We are helping co-develop FHIRcast too. (They don't want major changes, but we are working through some of the same use case mapping work and considering/proposing/debating potential improvements.)
 
* If you had to reduce scope, what would you drop?
 
* If you had to reduce scope, what would you drop?
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: Describing how to do pre-staging of reporting information - could limit to only content developed live during reporting session
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: Report creator flags custom field it wants to populate in a template and apps help do that.
 
* Have the promised resources manifested?
 
* Have the promised resources manifested?
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: Mostly: Khaled, David, Eric, HIMSS-SIIM, Jonathan,
 
* What tasks would benefit from additional expertise?
 
* What tasks would benefit from additional expertise?
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: Reporting vendors (e.g. Nuance experience with FHIRcast and harmonize/find gaps), "Smart Reporting", Fovia
* What vendors are engaged for each actor? Record how many.
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* What vendors are engaged/attending for each actor? Record how many.
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: PACS/VNA - Visage, Siemens
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: Report Creator - Siemens
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: Apps - Arterys
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: Orchestrator -
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: AI Viewers - Arterys
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: Hub - Arterys, Visage, Siemens
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: Might leverage the demo participants from 2022 (none were ready now)
 
* Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the Kickoff meeting (See "Kickoff Meeting" above), if not what was the gap
 
* Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the Kickoff meeting (See "Kickoff Meeting" above), if not what was the gap
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: FHIRcast model and detailed use cases were a bit of a gap
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: Topic list was good start, discussions raised additional topics which got addressed
 
* Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the Kickoff meeting, if not what was the gap
 
* Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the Kickoff meeting, if not what was the gap
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: Mostly where it needed to be - lots of content developed during the sessions and homework
 
* How many tcons would you like between now and the PC Prep Meeting?
 
* How many tcons would you like between now and the PC Prep Meeting?
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: 2 - one in December, one in January
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* How long did it take to do this checklist review
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: 45 min

Revision as of 13:48, 11 November 2022

Attendance List

  • Kevin O'Donnell
  • David Kwan
  • Khaled Younis
  • Andrei Leontiev
  • Wim Corbijn
  • Antje Schroeder
  • Brad Genereaux
  • Lynn Felhofer
  • Steve Nichols
  • Jonathan Whitby
  • Kinson Ho
  • Matt Hayes
  • Ben Larson
  • Cindy Wang
  • Eric Martin
  • Brian Bialecki
  • Chris Lindop
  • Chris Carr
  • Jamie Dulkowski
  • TeRhonda McGee


Profile Name: Reporting Worklist Prioritization

  • Describe gaps in Use Case coverage
Feels complete (currently)
  • Review ALL "uncertainty points" in the evaluation. Is there a resolution plan for each?
Done. Yes.
  • Do the effort points in the evaluation still seem right?
Think so.
  • Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?
Yes. No extra tasks
  • Describe unresolved technical issues/tasks
None noted - information that doesn't fit will be future extensions
  • Describe potential practical issues
So far so good
  • Review the open issue list. Does it feel complete
Need to move some notes up into open issues. Otherwise OK?
  • Which open issues feel most risky; what other risks exist?
Not really risky.
  • How is the work fitting in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)
Time to spare (at this stage)
  • How does the scope feel? (Room to expand? Just right? Pretty ambitious?)
Right
  • If you had to reduce scope, what would you drop?
Patient History, Imaging Priors, Lab/Path feeds. May still end up with those out of scope.
  • Have the promised resources manifested?
Mostly. Will follow up with radiology input.
  • What tasks would benefit from additional expertise?
More reporting worklist vendors to validate requirements. Will target during PC if we don't get them before that.
  • What vendors are engaged for each actor? Record how many.
Prioritizer: Canon, Siemens, Visage, GE
Sources - haven't really dug in yet, but mostly we'll use existing functions.
  • Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the Kickoff meeting (See "Kickoff Meeting" above), if not what was the gap
Yes
  • Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the Kickoff meeting, if not what was the gap
Yes (being small and focused helps)
  • How many tcons would you like between now and the PC Prep Meeting?
Maybe 1 or 2 in January


Profile Name: Realtime Bidirectional Communication for Interactive Multimedia Reporting

  • Describe gaps in Use Case coverage
Have prepared a good set of Use Cases - working on the list of example apps (might surface additional use case flavor)
  • Review ALL "uncertainty points" in the evaluation. Is there a resolution plan for each?
Done. Feels like yes.
  • Do the effort points in the evaluation still seem right?
Might be low. We've surfaced more transactions but hopefully they are mechanical. So more page effort, but maybe not more complexity.
Use cases expanded from estimate, need to map the "layers" - GUI layer, transaction layer, hub state layer, persistent objects
Did not have (enough) points for "exploring/understanding/learning FHIRcast(+contexts+sessions+content+model)"
TODO Add line item in the template. Be careful not to double count.
  • Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?
Additional transactions identified (e.g. select, get current context, websocket channel connection), learning sessions,
  • Describe unresolved technical issues/tasks
A number of TODOs, observation-resource mapping
Reporting app catalog
Confirm FHIRcast Information Model (Session->Context->Active Context->Content->Resources->...) and mapping to our Use Cases
  • Describe potential practical issues
Performance questions for high bandwidth tight integration of say two servers (PACS-Reporting)
Documentation questions with showing the mapping/relating the 4 layers when using in the IG platform
  • Review the open issue list. Does it feel complete
Haven't consolidated the open issue list yet. Can't think of any gaps.
  • Which open issues feel most risky; what other risks exist?
(Hard to assess, don't have the actual list)
Perhaps questions about the hub maintaining current view rather than "event sourcing" representation (Kinson is talking to Eric)
Process-wise, time to review might be a challenge
Maybe risk that our live analysis missed something - were developing the content rather than reviewing draft text
  • How is the work fitting in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)
A bit tight since we went overtime on many of the sessions. Will check the percentage later.
Ultimately we got through what we needed to.
  • How does the scope feel? (Room to expand? Just right? Pretty ambitious?)
Mostly OK. Working to prevent scope creep. Feels like it might be a long doc once it's all in a way people can understand.
Make sure we review everything, but hopefully the IG makes it navigable.
We are helping co-develop FHIRcast too. (They don't want major changes, but we are working through some of the same use case mapping work and considering/proposing/debating potential improvements.)
  • If you had to reduce scope, what would you drop?
Describing how to do pre-staging of reporting information - could limit to only content developed live during reporting session
Report creator flags custom field it wants to populate in a template and apps help do that.
  • Have the promised resources manifested?
Mostly: Khaled, David, Eric, HIMSS-SIIM, Jonathan,
  • What tasks would benefit from additional expertise?
Reporting vendors (e.g. Nuance experience with FHIRcast and harmonize/find gaps), "Smart Reporting", Fovia
  • What vendors are engaged/attending for each actor? Record how many.
PACS/VNA - Visage, Siemens
Report Creator - Siemens
Apps - Arterys
Orchestrator -
AI Viewers - Arterys
Hub - Arterys, Visage, Siemens
Might leverage the demo participants from 2022 (none were ready now)
  • Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the Kickoff meeting (See "Kickoff Meeting" above), if not what was the gap
FHIRcast model and detailed use cases were a bit of a gap
Topic list was good start, discussions raised additional topics which got addressed
  • Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the Kickoff meeting, if not what was the gap
Mostly where it needed to be - lots of content developed during the sessions and homework
  • How many tcons would you like between now and the PC Prep Meeting?
2 - one in December, one in January
  • How long did it take to do this checklist review
45 min