Rad Tech Minutes 2020-11-16-20

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Monday, November 16, 2020: 8:15 - 5:00 pm Central Time (CT)

IHE Radiology Technical Committee Roster
08:15 - 08:30: Welcome, Patent Disclosure Announcement, Agenda Review
  • Attendees
    • Tomoyuki Araki, IHE J
    • Brian Bialecki, American College of Radiology (ACR)
    • Wim Corbijn, Philips Healthcare
    • Lynn Felhofer, IHE Radiology Technical Project Manager
    • Brad Genereaux, SIIM
    • Kinson Ho, Change Healthcare
    • Nichole Knox, RSNA
    • David Kwan, Ontario Health
    • Andrei Leontiev, Visage Imaging
    • Chris Lindop, Citius Tech
    • Steven Nichols, GE
    • Kevin O'Donnell, Canon
    • Antje Schroeder, Siemens Healthineers
    • Jonathan Whitby, Canon
    • Harald Zachmann, IBM Watson
S1 08:30 - 11:00: Contrast Administration Management (CAM) (2.5)
  • Goal: Retire some uncertainty points.
S2 11:15 - 13:15: AI Whitepaper (2)
  • Brad will upload a snapshot of document at end of day.
S3 13:45 – 15:45 Maintenance (2)
  • CP Review
    • CP-RAD-453: Clarify Implicit Post-processing Workflow, SWF,SWF.b, Submitted by Steven Nichols; Assigned to Steven Nichols
    • CP-RAD-454: RAD-5 Keys Clarification, SWF,SWF.b, 2020-11-16, Submitted by Lynn Felhofer; Assigned to Lynn Felhofer
    • CP-RAD-455: SWF.b Section Number Fixes, SWF.b, 2020-11-16, Submitted by Lynn; Assigned to Lynn; completed
    • CP-RAD-456: Enterprise Identity Option - Issuer of Other Patient ID, SWF.b, Submitted by Gunter Zeilinger, Assigned to Andrei Leontiev
S4 16:00 - 17:00: Not TC Time. Available for Authoring Groups if needed
  • Time not needed. Session ended at 3:30pm

Tuesday, November 17, 2020: 8:45 am - 5:00 pm CT

  • Attendees
    • Tomoyuki Araki, IHE J
    • Salt, Canon
    • Brian Bialecki, American College of Radiology (ACR)
    • Wim Corbijn, Philips Healthcare
    • Lynn Felhofer, IHE Radiology Technical Project Manager
    • Brad Genereaux, SIIM
    • Kinson Ho, Change Healthcare
    • Nichole Knox, RSNA
    • David Kwan, Ontario Health
    • Andrei Leontiev, Visage Imaging
    • Chris Lindop, Citius Tech
    • Steven Nichols, GE
    • Kevin O'Donnell, Canon
    • Antje Schroeder, Siemens Healthineers
    • Jonathan Whitby, Canon
    • Harald Zachmann, IBM Watson
S1:08:45 - 10:30am Contrast Administration Management (CAM) (4.25)
S1:10:30 - 11:00am Maintenance (2.5)
  • IHE European Connectathon Recap
  • IHE Japan Connectathon Recap
S2:11:15 - 13:15: AI Whitepaper (4)
S3:13:45 - 15:00: Free discussions content to be decided

Wednesday, November 18, 2020: 8:45 am - 5:00 pm (CT)

  • Attendees
    • Brian Bialecki, American College of Radiology (ACR)
    • Chris Carr, RSNA
    • Wim Corbijn, Philips Healthcare
    • Karl Diedrich, IBM Watson
    • Lynn Felhofer, IHE Radiology Technical Project Manager
    • Brad Genereaux, SIIM
    • Kinson Ho, Change Healthcare
    • Nichole Knox, RSNA
    • David Kwan, Ontario Health
    • Andrei Leontiev, Visage Imaging
    • Chris Lindop, Citius Tech
    • Sujith Nair, American College of Radiology (ACR)
    • Steven Nichols, GE
    • Jouke Numan, GE
    • Kevin O'Donnell, Canon
    • Antje Schroeder, Siemens Healthineers
    • Jonathan Whitby, Canon
    • Harald Zachmann, IBM Watson
S1 09:00 - 11:00: Maintenance (4.5)
  • CP-RAD-423
    • Next steps
      • 1. Understanding something about the current state is wrong.
      • 2. Fully understanding what the current state is
      • 3. Deciding what you want the new state to be
      • 4. encoding the desired state changes
      • 5. communicating the desired state changes
      • 6. Specific behavior when receiving the communicated desired state changes
  • CP-RAD-454 remains assigned to Lynn; she will create an updated version based on committee input
  • CP-RAD-452 is approved for the next ballot pending updates Lynn from today’s discussion
S2 11:15 - 13:15: AI Whitepaper (6)
S3 13:45 - 15:45: AI Whitepaper (8)
S4 16:00 - 17:00: Free discussions content to be decided

Thursday, November 19, 2020: 8:15 am - 5:00 pm CT

Attendees
  • Tomo Araki, Canon
  • Brian Bialecki, American College of Radiology (ACR)
  • Wim Corbijn, Philips
  • Karl Diedrich, IBM Watson
  • Lynn Felhofer, IHE Radiology Technical Project Manager
  • Brad Genereaux, SIIM
  • Kinson Ho, Change Healthcare
  • Nichole Knox, RSNA
  • David Kwan, Ontario Health
  • Andrei Leontiev, Visage Imaging
  • Chris Lindop, Citius Tech
  • Steven Nichols, GE
  • Kevin O'Donnell, Canon
  • Antje Schroeder, Siemens Healthineers
  • Jonathan Whitby, Canon
  • Harald Zachmann, IBM Watson
S1 08:30 - 10:00: Maintenance (5.5) (includes AI testing discussion @ 09:00)
  • Notes to be added by LF next week (incorporating TS and LF notes)
S2 11:15 - 13:15: AI Whitepaper (10)
S3 13:45 - 15:00: Free time
S3 15:00 - 15:30: Contrast Administration Management (CAM) (5)
15:30 - 16:00: CAM Kickoff Assessment
  • Profile Name: CAM
    • Describe gaps in Use Case coverage
      • Seems complete. Have fine tuned.
    • Review ALL "uncertainty points" in the evaluation. Is there a resolution plan for each?
      • There was 1. Yes, we’ll proceed with DIMSE and reach out to remaining injector vendors to ask about DICOMweb.
    • Do the effort points in the evaluation still seem right?
      • Yes. Scope was pretty well fleshed out. Few if any surprises.
    • Did the Breakdown of Tasks accurately reflect the work? What extra tasks arose?
      • Seemed to match pretty closely.
    • Describe unresolved technical issues/tasks
      • None really. Have some homework that is typical profiling text completion. Tight scoping helps.
    • Describe potential practical issues
      • Avoiding the whole workflow thing keeps it simple. Mismatching IDs etc. Phase 2 may raise those (but we also have experience in how to do it)
      • e.g. using new SUID rather than the one the rest of the study is using. So use MWL.
      • In public comment – highlight doing this and ask about interest
      • “This profile assumes you are doing something to get good data (e.g. MWL)”
    • Review the open issue list. Does it feel complete
      • Seems reasonable.
    • Which open issues feel most risky; what other risks exist?
      • DICOMweb has the most potential to expand the workload.
      • Note that we have not addressed obtaining patient/procedure metadata (e.g. using MWL). The profile assumes. Addressing completely is part (core) of Phase 2.
    • How is the work fitting in the allocated bandwidth? (Time to spare? Just right? Things were left undone?)
      • Just right or time to spare (we used the time to do some of our work from the PC prep meeting)
    • How does the scope feel? (Room to expand? Just right? Pretty ambitious?)
      • The scope is small (which is why it is proceeding quickly and on time) but there are certainly more interesting (and complex) issues lurking past the edges and in the Phase 2 space.
    • If you had to reduce scope, what would you drop?
      • Its already mostly written.
    • Have the promised resources manifested?
      • Mostly. Tomo has been working hard. We have been corralling the injector vendors (see below). And the committee has provided good feedback as always.
    • What tasks would benefit from additional expertise?
      • The National Extension/Open Issue on regional variation will be a focus point for now and PC
    • What vendors are engaged for each actor? Record how many.
      • Infusion Manager – 1.5, working for 4; Image Manager – several, usual suspects; Contrast Info Consumer – RIS? Touch base with the Radiation Reporters, Reporting vendors? IHE-J will explore.
    • Was the profile where it needed to be at the start of the Kickoff meeting (See "Kickoff Meeting" above), if not what was the gap
      • Definitely. It was have a meeting ahead of schedule. We had a full draft (with a few missing chunks) to review.
    • Was the profile where it needed to be at the end of the Kickoff meeting, if not what was the gap
      • Definitely. Have already reviewed 50+% of the PC material.
    • How many tcons would you like between now and the PC Prep Meeting?
      • None. Seems on track. Open issues seem manageable.

Friday, November 18, 2020: 8:45 am - 1:15 pm (CT)

S1 09:00 - 11:00: AI Whitepaper (12)
S2:11:15 - 12:45: Maintenance (7)
S2 12:15 - 13:15: Overflow TC Time if needed, otherwise available for Authoring Groups