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==Participants==
 
==Participants==
 
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* Aaron Baumann - Codonics
 
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* David Clunie - RadPharm
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* Jere Darling - DatCard
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* Christoph Dickmann - Siemens
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* Dick Donker - Philips
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* Lynn Felhofer - MIR
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* Jay Gaeta - ACR
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* Bob Haworth - GE
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* Bernd Kramer - Philips
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* Chris Lindop - GE, Co-chair
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* Kevin O'Donnell - Toshiba
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* Bas Revet - Philips
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* Paul Seifert - Agfa
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* Mike Tilkin - ACR
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* Jerry Wallis, MD, PhD - MIR
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* Chris Carr - RSNA
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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===''Tues., Jan. 27''===
  
1. HL7 2.5 Refactoring
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'''A. HL7 2.5 Refactoring'''
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* Chris Lindop presented the proposed supplement with revisions and reviewed open issues
 +
::* Chris Lindop will integrate input provided by committee
 +
::* Profile will be updated to refer to HL7 versioning document being developed by ITI
  
2. Joint ITI/WG 26 DICOM Webservices Review and Discussion
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'''B. Joint ITI/WG 26 DICOM Webservices Review and Discussion'''
 
* Radiology presented an update on its current relevant activities and its use cases for image sharing
 
* Radiology presented an update on its current relevant activities and its use cases for image sharing
 
:* Currently revising XDS-I profile to use XDS.b only
 
:* Currently revising XDS-I profile to use XDS.b only
 
:* Tracking progress of supplemental profiles in ITI needed to support Web services model--such as XUA for role-based access control--but not currently confident that these solutions are ready for implementation
 
:* Tracking progress of supplemental profiles in ITI needed to support Web services model--such as XUA for role-based access control--but not currently confident that these solutions are ready for implementation
* Radiology Use Cases for Image Sharing
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* '''Radiology Use Cases for Image Sharing'''
 
:* Access to prior images and reports
 
:* Access to prior images and reports
 
:* Access to diagnostic images and reports for referring physicians
 
:* Access to diagnostic images and reports for referring physicians
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::* Remote reading model employed frequently requires access by radiologist to multiple image sources
 
::* Remote reading model employed frequently requires access by radiologist to multiple image sources
  
:* Moving Radiology to shared model of ITI XDS for Web services
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* '''Moving Radiology to shared model of ITI XDS for Web services'''
::* Can Radiology replace DICOM/Wado transport mechanisms with same Web Services transactions defined in ITI?
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:1. '''Retrieve Transactions''': Radiology should replace DICOM/Wado transport mechanisms with Web Services image retrieve transaction as compatible as possible with document retrieve method in XDS.b
::* Can Radiology simplify the "three-layer" model of XDS-I: registry/repository (with manifest only)/image source by enabling storage of images themselves in the repository layer
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:::* DICOM WG27 will help with specification of those transactions; ITI needs to coordinate with DWG27 to review divergences between the transactions defined for radiology and the general XDS retrieve model (retrieve document set)
:::* Images need to be  
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:::* Need to consider responsiveness needs of the use case (synch/asynch; pipeline/non-pipeline queries and responses)
::* Expanding beyond the Affinity Domain model
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:::* DICOM WG27 needs to review "Appendix V" being developed by ITI to make sure that the Web services profiled "fit" imaging model; perform "gap" analysis and provide feedback to ITI
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:::* Timing issue: need to have transactions specified before issuing XDS.b; standards would have to be specified by August 2009 in order to be implemented in 2009-2010 IHE Rad development cycle
 +
:::* Should DICOM WG 27 own this activity or ITI? Need a teleconference to settle ownership
 +
 
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:::* Same model likely to be used for inter- and intraenterprise access
 +
::::* Intra model has higher performance requirements
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::::* Intra model has more precise query requirements
 +
 
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:2. '''Query Issues'''
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::* Can Radiology simplify the "three-layer" model of XDS-I: query to registry/reference to repository (with manifest only)/image source by enabling storage of images themselves in the repository layer
 +
::* Need new queries based on Web services (using their query engine) to address specific issues of discovering and retrieving imaging studies: DICOM WG 20 is working on new query standards
 +
:::* Images need to be indexed (via manifest) so that large studies don't appear as multiple query entries
 +
:::* XDS-I adds two query keys to basic XDS: body part and procedure code
 +
:::* Manifest provides useful information about imaging study
 +
:::* Currently not all general query keys are included in the radiology manifest to fit into optimized XDS.b model
 +
:::* Extend in conformance with pattern for extensions developed by ITI
 +
:::* Event code is expandable attribute/value list that could be used for Radiology specific keys (body part, procedure code); IHE Rad will propose list of extensions to ITI
 +
:::* CP 228 in ITI that specifies "and/or" requirement for query response
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:3. '''Point-to-point push of images/reports'''
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:::* Does XDR enable pushing large image studies site to site (adheres to "provide and register" model)
 +
::::* Push manifest and require receiver to retrieve
 +
::::* Could include images (mime type) in provide and register transaction (convert DICOM metadata into XDS metadata)
 +
 
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:4. '''Distributed updates and image management functions''' (change in reason for study, etc)
 +
:::* Metadata versioning profile in ITI allows you to inform registry
 +
:::* Under Pub/Sub, if new payload is sent, it is designated as a replace transaction
 +
::::* Radiology to review Pub/Sub white paper
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:5. '''Security mechanisms: role-based access control and authentication'''
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:::* ITI has Authorization White Paper under development: general architecture (defined) to support different policies (not defined in white paper)
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:::* Rad Tech to review and comment on draft white paper
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:6. '''Notification of availability'''
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::* '''Next Joint ITI/Rad Tech/DICOM WG27'''
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:::* Feb. 5, 10-11:30am CT
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:::* Feb. 13, 10:30am-12:00pm CT
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'''C. Enhanced CT/MR Profile'''
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* Bas Revet recorded committee input on draft of Perfusion and Diffusion supplement documents
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* Committee suggests combining the two use cases into a single profile supplement document
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===''Weds., Jan. 28''===
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'''D. PDI Extensions'''
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* David Clunie presented updated document
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[[Radiology Technical Committee]]
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[[Category: Minutes]]

Latest revision as of 11:36, 29 January 2009

Participants

  • Aaron Baumann - Codonics
  • David Clunie - RadPharm
  • Jere Darling - DatCard
  • Christoph Dickmann - Siemens
  • Dick Donker - Philips
  • Lynn Felhofer - MIR
  • Jay Gaeta - ACR
  • Bob Haworth - GE
  • Bernd Kramer - Philips
  • Chris Lindop - GE, Co-chair
  • Kevin O'Donnell - Toshiba
  • Bas Revet - Philips
  • Paul Seifert - Agfa
  • Mike Tilkin - ACR
  • Jerry Wallis, MD, PhD - MIR
  • Chris Carr - RSNA

Minutes

Tues., Jan. 27

A. HL7 2.5 Refactoring

  • Chris Lindop presented the proposed supplement with revisions and reviewed open issues
  • Chris Lindop will integrate input provided by committee
  • Profile will be updated to refer to HL7 versioning document being developed by ITI

B. Joint ITI/WG 26 DICOM Webservices Review and Discussion

  • Radiology presented an update on its current relevant activities and its use cases for image sharing
  • Currently revising XDS-I profile to use XDS.b only
  • Tracking progress of supplemental profiles in ITI needed to support Web services model--such as XUA for role-based access control--but not currently confident that these solutions are ready for implementation
  • Radiology Use Cases for Image Sharing
  • Access to prior images and reports
  • Access to diagnostic images and reports for referring physicians
  • Point-to-point transfer of images and reports from site to site or from a site to an outside provider of longitudinal patient record, such as a Personal Health Record system vendor
  • Remote reading model employed frequently requires access by radiologist to multiple image sources
  • Moving Radiology to shared model of ITI XDS for Web services
1. Retrieve Transactions: Radiology should replace DICOM/Wado transport mechanisms with Web Services image retrieve transaction as compatible as possible with document retrieve method in XDS.b
  • DICOM WG27 will help with specification of those transactions; ITI needs to coordinate with DWG27 to review divergences between the transactions defined for radiology and the general XDS retrieve model (retrieve document set)
  • Need to consider responsiveness needs of the use case (synch/asynch; pipeline/non-pipeline queries and responses)
  • DICOM WG27 needs to review "Appendix V" being developed by ITI to make sure that the Web services profiled "fit" imaging model; perform "gap" analysis and provide feedback to ITI
  • Timing issue: need to have transactions specified before issuing XDS.b; standards would have to be specified by August 2009 in order to be implemented in 2009-2010 IHE Rad development cycle
  • Should DICOM WG 27 own this activity or ITI? Need a teleconference to settle ownership
  • Same model likely to be used for inter- and intraenterprise access
  • Intra model has higher performance requirements
  • Intra model has more precise query requirements
2. Query Issues
  • Can Radiology simplify the "three-layer" model of XDS-I: query to registry/reference to repository (with manifest only)/image source by enabling storage of images themselves in the repository layer
  • Need new queries based on Web services (using their query engine) to address specific issues of discovering and retrieving imaging studies: DICOM WG 20 is working on new query standards
  • Images need to be indexed (via manifest) so that large studies don't appear as multiple query entries
  • XDS-I adds two query keys to basic XDS: body part and procedure code
  • Manifest provides useful information about imaging study
  • Currently not all general query keys are included in the radiology manifest to fit into optimized XDS.b model
  • Extend in conformance with pattern for extensions developed by ITI
  • Event code is expandable attribute/value list that could be used for Radiology specific keys (body part, procedure code); IHE Rad will propose list of extensions to ITI
  • CP 228 in ITI that specifies "and/or" requirement for query response
3. Point-to-point push of images/reports
  • Does XDR enable pushing large image studies site to site (adheres to "provide and register" model)
  • Push manifest and require receiver to retrieve
  • Could include images (mime type) in provide and register transaction (convert DICOM metadata into XDS metadata)
4. Distributed updates and image management functions (change in reason for study, etc)
  • Metadata versioning profile in ITI allows you to inform registry
  • Under Pub/Sub, if new payload is sent, it is designated as a replace transaction
  • Radiology to review Pub/Sub white paper
5. Security mechanisms: role-based access control and authentication
  • ITI has Authorization White Paper under development: general architecture (defined) to support different policies (not defined in white paper)
  • Rad Tech to review and comment on draft white paper
6. Notification of availability
  • Next Joint ITI/Rad Tech/DICOM WG27
  • Feb. 5, 10-11:30am CT
  • Feb. 13, 10:30am-12:00pm CT

C. Enhanced CT/MR Profile

  • Bas Revet recorded committee input on draft of Perfusion and Diffusion supplement documents
  • Committee suggests combining the two use cases into a single profile supplement document

Weds., Jan. 28

D. PDI Extensions

  • David Clunie presented updated document


Radiology Technical Committee