Pharm Tech Minutes 2018.06.25

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Meeting details


IHE PHARM F2F Meeting in Wien von 25. - 26.06. 2018

Fachhochschule Technikum Wien
Adress: Meldemannstraße 18, 1200 Wien
Gebäude: B
Raum: B0.03
Austria / Europe

Additional information:

Public transport

Stations nearby the Fachhochschule Technikum Wien are:

  • Underground: U6 - Station Dresdner Straße
  • Tram: Linie 2, Linie 31, Linie 33 - Station Höchstädtplatz
  • Fast train: Station Handelskai bzw. Traisengasse
  • Bus: Linie 37A - Station Höchstädtplatz


There are plenty of hotels in Vienna city, but the following hotel is in walking distance and provides a reasonable quality: Harry's Home Hotel Wien Millennium Tower

WebEx details:

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Join by phone

  • +33 17091 8646 France toll
  • +43 125 302 1542 Austria toll
  • +32 2894 8317 Belgium toll
  • +41 43456 9564 Switzerland toll

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Access code: 956 796 372


09:00 - 09:30 Welcome

  • Participants
    • Jacqueline Surugue
    • Esther Peelen
    • Juergen Brandstaetter
    • Michael Tan
    • Leonidas Tzimis
    • Marc Robberecht
    • Jose Costa Teixeira
    • Michael van der Zel ( partial).
  • Review and Approve Agenda

10:00 -11:30 Preliminary scouting of Immunization

  • Review of the current Dutch Vaccination Program for youth.
    • 7 interactions about stock, plan and administrations
  • Recognize similarities with the ELGA.
    • MMA and vaccination status.
  • There will be a decision in July in Austria.
  • Interest from Vietnam, but status unclear.
  • Recommendation to ELGA not to use CDMA, but FHIR message
  • Need several roles in the Gemini project:
    • Gemini coordination role
    • Project lead for the IHE immunization project
    • Content specific expert.
  • Juergen, Jose, Marc and Michael are available for this project.
  • HL7 will also have delegates in the project.

  • In France community pharmacies will be allowed to administer vaccinations to the patients. The central Medication repository only registers dispenses now. In future patience will have medical records.
  • In Netherlands patients will also have the right to query immunization status in the MedMij program. This will be FHIR based queries.

11:00-11:30 Coffee break

11:45- 13:00 UBP and MMA update

  • A Dutch team has presented MMA and UBP during the Weekconnect sessions in April.
  • Several vendors show interest and we invite them to participate on a Hackathon at HL7 Netherlands on November 9th 2018.
  • The target is to get enough parties interested to do the Connectathon in Rennes in 2019.
  • The MMA profile could also be extended with a simple query for the patient about the status of his medication. This coule also be used to query the status of vaccinations.
  • In the home nursing a pouch contains multiple drugs in one pouch. We need a exception handling f a drug has not be consumed,
  • Esther reports on progress in the Netherlands File:Weekconnect.pdf

13:00 - 14:00 --- Lunch ---

14:00 15:00 Continuation of discussion on Supply

  • GS1 EDI standards are available. IHE Pharmacy supply profile will make use of these standards and put extra constraints on the standards.
  • FMD also provides an opportunity to add extra interactions. These do not exist yet.
  • Awareness is essential for "selling" our product ( IHE Profile) to the market.

14:00 - 15:30 FHIR publication / Resources

  • The IHE board is considering of acquiring a license of Simplifier.
  • Simplifier is familiar among the FHIR community, but is a commercial product from Firely.
  • What IHE needs is a tool fit for persons like editors who are not technical.
  • Jose shows the status of his FHIR publication method. This is collaboration with Grahame Grieve.
  • The IHE FHIR profiles could be published in the implementation guides.
  • A decision has to be made of how IHE should publish their material
  • Juergen will participate in this call.

15:30 - 15:45 --- Coffee break ---

15:45 - 18:00 Gemini Project Immunization

  • Jose displays the categorization of different FHIR resources with the purpose of each resource.
  • review of FHIR resource of Immunization. We wonder why Med. Administration is not inherited as a resource, but duplicated into Immunization.
  • This resource has maturity 3.
  • review of FHIR resource of Administration. This has maturity 2.
  • Batch (lot reference) is part of the Medication resource in Administration.

18:00 - Adjourn

Pharmacy Technical Committee