Pharm Tech Minutes 2015.06.19

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Meeting details

Friday, 19 June 2014, 9:00 CET

Chania General Hospital Meeting room number 300.15


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09:00 - 09:30 Welcome

  • Participants:
    • Jacqueline Surugue
    • Stephane Spahni
    • Jurgen Brandstatter
    • Christoff Gessner
    • Michael Tan
    • Leonidas Tzimis
    • Marc Robberecht ( via Webex).
    • Angela Merzweiler ( via Webex).
  • NCPDP update and alignment strategy
    • Memo of Understanding
    • NCPDP wishes to export their standards such as the RXnorm
    • could be opportunity for IHE Pharmacy to expand our profiles in the USA
    • could also be a threat because of unequal strength of organizations. NCPDP is a commercial company with their own employees.
    • Will they refer to an IHE standard? NCPDP will probably not wait for IHE if they need a standard.
    • IHE is not in favor to adopt the US standards and relabel it as a IHE Pharmacy profile.
    • Should focus on the long term cooperation and create understanding.
    • Also identify issues, double work, resolve differences
    • Explore what IHE and NCPDP could collaborate on.
    • Should IHE USA be involved? No, IHE USA is for the deployment. SDO should talk to SDO.
    • The focus group are the co-chairs plus Jacqueline.
    • IHE should write down our thoughts on the collaboration.

9:30 - 10:30 Supply of Healthcare Products

  • White paper status
    • The white paper is published.
    • The document is quite large. Suggestion to move the use cases to a seperate section 2.( action Jose)
    • Conference calls will be scheduled biweekly.
    • A process step is the pre-order where the buyer asks a vendor for information.
    • This could also be used to inform satellite pharmacies to the central hospital supply.
    • On the normal order add the time limit as a functional requirement.
    • Matching with the invoice.
    • Also returning goods to the supplier.
      • Could lead to reimbursement of the invoice
      • Or replacement of the returned goods.
    • There are many variations in the flow. Be aware that this should remain flexible.
    • slides to be added to the minutes (action Jose)
    • FHIR resources from orders and observations needed to be more flexible and robust

10:30 - 11:15 Medication Documentation, and Management Concepts and Definitions

  • Word-Doc version (with comments of Leonidas and Jose)
    • This document has gone into ballot at ISO TC215. It is an informative Technical Report
    • Comments should be submitted through ISO. They will forward it to the project leader (Michael).
    • Projectleader will form an expert group to discuss and resolve the comments.
    • Comments from Jose and Leonidas also need to be submitted through the normal procedure.
    • Michael will inform on the time lines and deadlines for the ballot comments.
  • Jose will continue with the whitepaper of the medication data capture.
    • This document will also define which data to capture and how they are stored in various sources.
    • Jacqueline suggests to provide use cases.

11:30 - 12:00 Additions to CMPD - Workflows, statement and administration

  • Discussion
  • PML/PRE profile: representation of the (paper) prescription (multiple prescriptions together on the same document)
  • Next steps (CPs)
  • Medication Statements
  • Medication Administration

12:00 - 13:00 Lunch

13:30 - 14:30 Planning Committee review of strategy and vision

  • Review of roadmap
    • Mission is to be visible as the institute to approach for knowledge on medication and pharmacy.
    • For example governments. IHE in general has little experience on discussions with governments.
    • Discussion about the position of HL7 Pharmacy versus IHE Pharmacy. We should not compete.
    • To get known IHE Pharmacy should put more effort in marketing.
    • Jose and Stephane are volunteering to write booklets (20 page document.) Introduction.
    • Jose will propose the chapters.
      • Stephane suggests to write on the topic of organizing en creating awareness.
    • Focus on European programs on e-Health. They are focussing on e-prescriptions.
    • Are we involved in EXPAND? We should be part of the SDO platform. Action Stephane and Christoff.
    • This topic will be carried further in a next call.
  • Supply projects
    • A new block has been added for supply.
  • Also see wiki on Strategy Planning
  • Terminologies
    • IHE should also give advice on the use of terminologies, such as coding systems, identifiers and stucture indentification in pharnacy
    • Christoff volunteers to setup projects to give recomendations on terminologies to be used in deployment.

14:30 - 14:40 ISO/TC 215/WG6: DTS 17523 review

  • has been set for ballot. The comments have been addressed.
  • It will now go to FDIS ballot. Only editorial editing, not content.
  • Next meeting of ISO will be in Bern in november.

14:40 - 15:20 Planning season 2015-2016

  • The F2F in October will be planned on the 29 and 30 October (Side note ISO will be at 1 november). Prefered location Geneva.
  • Combine the June F2F with e-Health week in Amsteredam? Explore 7th June a possible date for the Joint ISO-HL7 meeting. Action Michael
  • The F2F of June could be in the week before or after. (for example 15/16 either in Netherlands or Austria).
  • The F2F in February will depend on ITI intentions.
  • The ballot starts after the comments have resolved.
  • After that IHE Pharmacy will set it out for ballot.
  • The periode for ballot could end in August.

15:20 - 15:20 Action items

Wrap up: Motion to send a thank you message to our sponsors. Decision: Motion approved unanimously.

15:20 - 15:30 Action items

  • European affairs group will meet in Vienna Austria.
  • Jacqueline will have less time for IHE Pharmacy meetings in 2016.
  • Jose will send out an e-mail to thank our Greek colleague for hosting the IHE Pharmacy meeting in Chania.

15:30 Adjourn

Pharmacy Technical Committee

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