Pharm Tech Minutes 2012.10.23

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10:00 - 10:15 Welcome

  • Call to Order/Roll Call
  • Jürgen Brandstätter
  • Jacqueline Surugue
  • Leonidas Tzimis
  • Marc Robberecht
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Michael Tan
  • Review and Approve Agenda
  • Approved
  • Approval of minutes of TCon Sep 27, 2012


10:15 - 11:00 Schedule 2012/2013

  • Shown and approved
  • Concerning 2nd F2F meeting in March 18-19, 2013
  • Last status:
  • Room, Internet and Beamer at Arsenal IT are confirmed by Claudio Saccavini
  • Coffee/Lunch will be clarified by Claudio with Celina Roth next week
  • Jacqueline (on behalf of the sponsor): Finalize with Claudio
  • Concerning 3nd F2F meeting in Jun 11-12, 2013
  • Decision: Location will be Nictiz
  • Room, Beamer, Internet, Coffee/Lunch is confirmed
  • Decision: Schedule 2012/2013 set to final (v1.0)
  • [LINK]


11:00 - 11:15 --- Break ---

11:15 - 12:00 Call for proposals

  • Final approval of incoming NWIs
  • No new incoming work items, nothing to approve
  • Review CPs
  • Info: Jose and Marc work on a CPs to HMW, will be presented in next meetings
  • Jürgen presents one incoming CP on PRE:
  • [LINK]
  • Decision:
  • CP will be assigned to Jürgen
  • Approvement will be postponed, because certain facts have to be clarified before:
  • With HL7 Pharmacy Group: Are there more changes like to be expected in the future?
  • With Claudio Saccavini: Is this part used in the DOGE project?
  • With ELGA/Austria: Can this change be forwarded to the Austrian specification
  • With Swiss vendor: Option to the change?
  • Any other known usages yet to discover?
  • If the change will not be approved, it shall be added to "Open issues"
  • Eric has sent CP on CMPD:
  • [LINK]
  • Decision: CP is approved, ready for ballot


12:00 - 12:30 Domain Board Report

  • Review and approval of Domain Board Report
  • Domain report and related documents are approved
  • Jürgen:
  • Update the Wiki and add the current version of the Roadmap to PHARM Roadmap page
  • Update the Wiki Pharmacy Home page and move section "Roadmap" to the top
  • Send Domain Report to DCC


  • Discussion about long-term planning
  • Interaction with other domains (RAD, PCD, PCC)
  • RAD
  • Jürgen: Official announcement of future collaboration with RAD has already been communicated to Kevin O'Donnell
  • Jose: Will provide a fact sheet for RAD about possible overlaps and interactions
  • PCD
  • Jürgen: Todd has informed that the Whitepaper was on hold until now and will be taken up again soon be PCD. He will inform us
  • PCC
  • Field of interaction is the "Medication Documentation" work item
  • Proposal for collaboration can be sent out after the scope is clarified within IHE/HL7 joint work group
  • Validation of profile coverage of use-cases
  • Validation cases of real-world scenarios will be created
  • These Validation cases will be scripted and mapped detailed to the profile transactions in order to be virtually processed.
  • These scripts can be re-used for CAT test descriptions



12:30 - 13:15 Medication Documentation (Preliminary)

[LINK to yr4 ...]

  • Updated slides of Stephen Chu reviewed
  • [LINK]
  • Jose has prepared one proposal for the scope of the two work-items (Top-down, Bottom-up)
  • Proposal for continuing tomorrow:
  • 1) Approve the hierarchy of Stephen's slides
  • 2) Discuss and approve each definition within the hierarchy
  • 3) Define next steps


13:15 - 14:00 --- Lunch ---

14:00 - 14:45 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Simon, Jose)

[LINK to yr4 ...]

  • Jürgen: ISO plans a new work item "Drug dictionary" - what is our standpoint?
  • Postponed to tomorrow, tbd with HL7 group
  • Work on work item
  • Changes made to latest version, new version will be published soon
  • ISO standards for IDMP will be taken into account e.g. according data models
  • <Numbers>
  • Next steps
  • New version of the whitepaper will be published at the FTP followed by a TCon


14:45 - 15:30 Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)

[LINK to yr4 ...]

  • Status
  • Current version of whitepaper: [LINK]
  • Recent TCon turned out that we have to be careful in definition of terms (glossary)
  • Sync with ISO Glossary (SKMT) necessary, tbd tomorrow at Glossary work item
  • Current progress
  • Simon extends use-cases
  • Marc incorporating the use-cases in the whitepaper and adding the sequence diagrams
  • Next steps
  • Cleanup FTP:
  • Remove DistributionAndSupplyOfItems folder from "Proposals" (this was intended to be the proposal for the profile according to the whitepaper
  • Add folder DistributionAndSupplyOfItems to "Whitepapers" and upload all documents
  • There is interest in supply of items also in other domains. Current work is focused on Pharmacy needs but the model should be supportive for other domains too. In parallel to this whitepaper a new action item should be started to align and document the needs in different domains.
  • The process to govern this for supply chain is considered to be best done in the same in the manner of the NWIP "Medication Administration Clinical Integration Strategy White Paper" of PCD [LINK]
  • Jose: Will provide a new work-item proposal until next TCon. This proposal is accepted as submitted within the deadline.
  • New version of the whitepaper will be published at the FTP followed by a TCon


15:30 - 16:15 HMW Exceptional cases (Marc)

  • Status:
  • Marc figured out that all remaining exceptional cases are already covered by HMW

.* Work-item could be closed

  • Decision:
  • Work-item will be closed


16:15 - 16:30 --- Break ---

16:30 - 17:15 Use-case/CPs: Community – Hospital

[LINK to yr4 ...]

  • Status:
  • No public comments received


  • Next steps:
  • Jürgen/Eric: Contact several parties explicit for feedback:
  • Konstantin Hypponen at KELA, Finland
  • Claudio Saccavini at Arsenal IT, Italy
  • Stefan Sabutsch at ELGA, Austria
  • Stephen Chu at NEHTA, Australia
  • Hans-Jörg Looser at eHealth Swiss, Switzerland


17:15 - 18:00 Other businesses to take care of

  • Monitoring and Syncing with PCD: (Perfusion administration)
  • Marketing USA / NCPDP
  • Marketing International


Any other business

  • CAT NA 2013
  • Registration closed, 3 vendors have registered for PHARM domain
  • PRE
  • Content Creator: 2 (GE, Tiani-Cisco)
  • Content Consumer: 3 (GE, Tiani-Cisco, Karos)
  • PADV
  • Content Creator: 0
  • Content Consumer: 0
  • DIS
  • Content Creator: 1 (Tiani-Cisco)
  • Content Consumer: 1 (Tiani-Cisco, Karos)
  • CMPD
  • 0
  • HMW
  • 0
  • CAT EU 2013
  • Registration will open Nov 1st, 2012 - closed Jan 15th, 2013
  • Activities to motivate vendors?
  • No specific instruments at hand, this must be covered by International Marketing for IHE Pharmacy
  • Frank Gener sends PHAST document: "The Functional Interoperability Framework for Automated Systems Integration in Electronic Medication Management Processes"
  • Document will be presented tomorrow to the HL7 Pharmacy working group
  • Common discussion about it tomorrow