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*15:30-16:30 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Jose, Simon)
 
*15:30-16:30 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Jose, Simon)
 
:*Discussion
 
:*Discussion
::*Is IHE Pharmacy legitmated to deal with that?
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::*Is IHE Pharmacy legitimated to deal with that?
 
:::*Laboratory has generated a similar profile
 
:::*Laboratory has generated a similar profile
 
:::*It might be in the focus of the proposed new domain "Healthcare Operations"
 
:::*It might be in the focus of the proposed new domain "Healthcare Operations"
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::*Is that topic urgent and has to be processed this season or shall we wait to figure out the right host for it?
 
::*Is that topic urgent and has to be processed this season or shall we wait to figure out the right host for it?
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::*Laboratory has created a profile to the similar profile
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:::*Could be a template to pharmacy and would allow easy generation of the profile
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:::*HL7v2 based
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::*Shared Value Set profile
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:::*Webservice based, HL7v3
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::*Shall it scoped for Hospital only?
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:::*This is an important topic in Community Pharmacy too
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:::*If we decide for HL7v2 it should stay scoped on Hospital to allow Community doing different (e.g. SVS, HL7v3)
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::*Decision:
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:::*Gathering more facts for decision making
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::::*Marc gathers more details on how the profile would look like in the manner of Lab
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::::*Jacqueline will call Jean-Christoph CAUVIN (Lab) to interview him about this
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::::*Marco contacts Robert Horn for hints from the SVS side
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:::*Decision at next TCon
  
  

Revision as of 10:37, 2 February 2012

Thursday, February 02.

  • 10:00-10:15 Greeting
  • Participants
  • Juergen
  • Vassil
  • Marco
  • Thierry
  • Marc
  • Simon
  • Jacqueline
  • Christian Hay (IHE Suisse, GS1)
  • Leonidas
  • Eric
  • Luca
  • Arianna
  • Karima
  • Nicolas Lefebvre


  • 10:15-10:30 Approvement of last minutes
  • Approved
  • 10:30-10:45 User co-chair election
  • Current situation: 7 votes of of 13 for YES
  • According to governance the election has to continue until Feb 8th, 2012
  • Result will be published by email
  • 10:45-13:00 CAT EU Bern
  • How to get additional vendors
  • CMPD
  • Basically same situation as last year
  • Slightly improved by one additional vendor
  • HMW
  • Currently no testing possible
  • Glintt and Solinfo from last year are not attending the CAT at all
  • Should be contacted. Who?
  • Dedalus is currently registering. Information from Dedalus: Will not test Pharmacy this year, will concentrate on other topics
  • Possible reasons
  • HMW actors shall be reviewed, if they demand too much transactions as "required"
  • It shall evaluated, why the vendors stopped participating
  • Possible vendors to contact
  • McKesson
  • Jacqueline: In France McKesson is active in Hospital Pharmacy, but the moment there is a propriety standard in place (PN13). Eric will send a contact to Jacqueline and Jürgen. Jacqueline will contact them.
  • AGFA
  • Marc: Currently focus on supply chain. Tries to push participation next year for HMW.
  • CareFusion
  • Thierry: Is on the dispensing side. Wait for CPOE vendors to attend. Maybe participation next year.
  • Epic
  • Vassil: Immediate interest is in communicating with robots (supply chain). Community Pharmacy depends on the amount of European customers. Currently no estimation for a participation at a CAT.
  • Learnings for the future
  • It's not reliable to expect past registrations to be continued
  • Motivating vendors after end of registration is too late
  • Inviting vendors for next CAT should be an ongoing activity
  • Invite people on the CAT (during the CAT) to a workshop to anchorage them for next year
  • Robots in Community is a pressing topic at the moment, this could be used as a positve momentum (because it saves money) -> should be considered for the Strategic planning and Roadmap
  • Workshop at Bern
  • Possible by using the VIP Guided Tour: max.90min Welcome+Room+Beamer + Walkaround CAT Area
  • Pharmacy could use one of this slots for free
  • Pharmacy dedicated VIP tour + Normal VIP tour + get in contact to others
  • Date
  • Thursday forenoon or during the F2F meeting
  • How to get people there?
  • CAT people per announcement at participants
  • Pharmacy people per personal activating
  • Next steps
  • CAT vendors will be informed anyway and invited to a slot during our F2F (end of 2nd day)
  • Evaluating if people from outside would come to such an event by group members - sum up next TCon and decision about further steps


  • Status Test descriptions and scripts
  • Based on the registration this is lessened in priority now
  • Eric: Gazelle is prepared for testing if needed
  • also XDW (generic anyway, semantically for Pharmacy afterwards)


  • Agenda F2F meeting
  • Postponed to TCon


  • 13:00-13:30 --- Lunch ---


  • 13:30-14:30 HMW Exceptional cases (Marc)
  • CP-PHARM-xx1.doc, CP-PHARM-xx2 and CP-PHARM-xx3 have been set to status "Completed" and are ready to be balloted
  • Uploaded at FTP at:
  • Ballot will be postponed until other completed CPs arrive
  • More CPs to some other exceptional cases will be prepared by Marc and presented at the next TCon


  • 14:30-15:30 Distribution and supply of items (Marc, Simon)
  • Editor changed from Jose/Simon to Marc/Simon
  • Work item is approved
  • Profile name discussion:
  • Distribution and supply of medication and disposable
  • Distribution and supply of healthcare products
  • Distribution and supply of health products
  • Distribution and supply of medicinal products
  • Distribution and supply of pharmaceutical products
  • Decision: "Distribution and supply of healthcare products"
  • Cross-domain needed?
  • PHAST (Franck will nominate person)
  • GS1 (Christian Hay)
  • Schedule for profile "Distribution and supply of healthcare products"
  • TCon 2012.03.16: Volume 1 First draft
  • TCon 2012.04.19: Volume 1 finalized
  • F2F 2012.05.22-23: Volume 2 First draft
  • TCon 2012.06.07: Volume 2 Last draft
  • F2F 2012.06.19-20: Volume 1+2: Ready for public comment
  • End of Jul 2012: Volume 1+2: Public comment completed
  • End of Aug 2012: Volume 1+2: Ready for TI


  • 15:30-16:30 Medication catalog (e.g. Formulary) (Jose, Simon)
  • Discussion
  • Is IHE Pharmacy legitimated to deal with that?
  • Laboratory has generated a similar profile
  • It might be in the focus of the proposed new domain "Healthcare Operations"
  • Is that topic urgent and has to be processed this season or shall we wait to figure out the right host for it?
  • Laboratory has created a profile to the similar profile
  • Could be a template to pharmacy and would allow easy generation of the profile
  • HL7v2 based
  • Shared Value Set profile
  • Webservice based, HL7v3
  • Shall it scoped for Hospital only?
  • This is an important topic in Community Pharmacy too
  • If we decide for HL7v2 it should stay scoped on Hospital to allow Community doing different (e.g. SVS, HL7v3)
  • Decision:
  • Gathering more facts for decision making
  • Marc gathers more details on how the profile would look like in the manner of Lab
  • Jacqueline will call Jean-Christoph CAUVIN (Lab) to interview him about this
  • Marco contacts Robert Horn for hints from the SVS side
  • Decision at next TCon


  • 16:30-16:45 --- Break 15min ---


  • 16:45-17:30 Improvements in HMW for scope and error-fixing (Jose, Marc)


  • 17:30-18:00 Marketing USA



  • Other business
  • Harmonizing profiles
  • Decision: Jürgen for Community and Marc for Hospital will change all actor names to capital spelling:
  • Prescription Placer
  • Pharmaceutical Adviser
  • Medication Dispenser
  • ...
  • Decision: Word "cancelling" or "cancelled") will be changed to one "l"
  • following base standard HL7
  • Information: New domain planned "Healthcare Operations"
  • Deals with Supply/Logistics/Scheduling of resources
  • Has contact points to work item "Distribution and supply of healthcare products"