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== 10:05 - 11:00 Medication Lists ==
 
== 10:05 - 11:00 Medication Lists ==
 
* Medication Lists  FHIR profiles Maintenance  
 
* Medication Lists  FHIR profiles Maintenance  
** There will be change proposals for the maintenance.One new transaction has to be introduced, which will be Pharm-5.  
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** Switzerland has had a projectathon in September, where medication list was the focus (modification of a medication list through PADV and MTP documents).
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** There are different possibilities to convert the data in both directions.
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** Each document will have a unique ID. Discussion about retaining the original ID or the converted output. 
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** Have to sort out later.
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** We need to clear up the models of CDA and FHIR.The EPR should support both standards.
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** Gazelle tools need to be able to validate FHIR as well as CDA.
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** Oliver Egger explains the mapping between CDA and FHIR.
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* There will be change proposals for the maintenance.
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** One new transaction has to be introduced, which will be Pharm-5.  
 
** This will be almost like Pharm-1, but will be using MHD instead of XDS.
 
** This will be almost like Pharm-1, but will be using MHD instead of XDS.
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** PHARM-1 could also use on-line document generation.
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** MHD does not support on-demand document generation.
 
** Stephane will write a proposal for PHARM-5, which will use ITI-65, ITI-67, ITI-68,  instead of ITI-18, ITI-43- ITI-45.
 
** Stephane will write a proposal for PHARM-5, which will use ITI-65, ITI-67, ITI-68,  instead of ITI-18, ITI-43- ITI-45.
** PHARM-1 could also use on-line document generation.
 
 
** Context conduction has been deprecated within HL7, but this has also to be discussed in Switzerland.
 
** Context conduction has been deprecated within HL7, but this has also to be discussed in Switzerland.
***Action items
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** Switzerland has had a projectathon where medication list was the focus (modification of a medication list through PADV and MTP documents).
 
** We need to clear up the models of CDA and FHIR.The EPR should support both standards.
 
** Gazelle tools need to be able to validate FHIR as well as CDA.
 
** mapping between CDA and FHIR.
 
** MHD does not support on-demand document generation.
 
* 1 report
 
* 2 Work in Medication Information should support CDA as FHIR resources as well.
 
* Must able to map between CDA and FHIR.
 
* Oliver Egger is working on the mapping.
 
* e-Medication was tested in a projectathon in September
 
* Start from an Implementation Guide
 
 
* Jose proposes to start with a logical model and the group agrees.
 
* Jose proposes to start with a logical model and the group agrees.
 
* In Switzerland they started with the dataset in ART-DECOR which is also a data model.
 
* In Switzerland they started with the dataset in ART-DECOR which is also a data model.
* We will need a task force to have more meetings biweekly. Start biweekly calls on even weeks starting on 27 November. Time slot: 13:00-14:00.
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* We will need a task force to have more meetings biweekly.  
There are different possibilities to convert the data both directions.
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* Start biweekly calls on even weeks starting on 27 November. Time slot: 13:00-14:00.
Each document will have a unique ID. Discussion about retaining the original ID or the converted output.  Have to sort out later.
 
  
 
== 11:00 - 11:15 Break ==
 
== 11:00 - 11:15 Break ==

Revision as of 06:30, 23 October 2020

Meeting details

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Minutes

10:00 - 10:05 Welcome

  • Participants
    • Oliver Egger
    • Foppa Annatina
    • Pero Grgic
    • Juerg Bleuer
    • Marc Robberecht
    • Stephane Spahni
    • Michael Tan
    • Esther Peelen
    • Jose Costa Teixeira

10:05 - 11:00 Medication Lists

  • Medication Lists FHIR profiles Maintenance
    • Switzerland has had a projectathon in September, where medication list was the focus (modification of a medication list through PADV and MTP documents).
    • There are different possibilities to convert the data in both directions.
    • Each document will have a unique ID. Discussion about retaining the original ID or the converted output.
    • Have to sort out later.
    • We need to clear up the models of CDA and FHIR.The EPR should support both standards.
    • Gazelle tools need to be able to validate FHIR as well as CDA.
    • Oliver Egger explains the mapping between CDA and FHIR.
  • There will be change proposals for the maintenance.
    • One new transaction has to be introduced, which will be Pharm-5.
    • This will be almost like Pharm-1, but will be using MHD instead of XDS.
    • PHARM-1 could also use on-line document generation.
    • MHD does not support on-demand document generation.
    • Stephane will write a proposal for PHARM-5, which will use ITI-65, ITI-67, ITI-68, instead of ITI-18, ITI-43- ITI-45.
    • Context conduction has been deprecated within HL7, but this has also to be discussed in Switzerland.
  • Jose proposes to start with a logical model and the group agrees.
  • In Switzerland they started with the dataset in ART-DECOR which is also a data model.
  • We will need a task force to have more meetings biweekly.
  • Start biweekly calls on even weeks starting on 27 November. Time slot: 13:00-14:00.

11:00 - 11:15 Break

11:15 - 11:55 Immunisation

  • Projects in Europe
    • Belgian project on Child Health Immunization
      • This project will focus on the child health RIZIV. ONE
    • Currently Implementation Guide is available.

http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/riziv-inami/artifacts.html#vaccination

  • The first proces is the registration of the vaccination of the Child.
  • Next is a reference implementation. And after that vendor will have to implement this standards.
  • It is replacing an existing implementation and moving from a Belgian standard to FHIR. It is also because Flanders, Brussels, Wallonie and the German part of Belgium have different implementation and the new implementation should be the standard for all regions.


    • European project on European Vaccination Card Chafea.
    • Dutch project on logical model of vaccinations.
  • FHIR resources
  • Comparison of the conceptual models of the different countries
  • Switzerland : common architecture for vaccinations. List of current vaccinations. Should have the same architecture as medication. Should incorporate the existing architecture in the new configuration. Exchange format already exists.
  • starting point is reviewing the logical models. We could start with the Belgian model.
  • the Dutch model is being reconsidered. We could look at the Dutch Model in December.
  • we could look at the Swiss and Austrian Datamodels.

http://ehealthsuisse.art-decor.org/cdachvacd-html-20200819T145048/dataset.html http://art-decor.org/decor/services/ProjectIndex?prefix=elgaimpf-&format=html&language=&ui=en-US

11:55 - 12:00 Any other business

  • We need to find some topics for presenting in IHE Europe.
  • This could be work in progress to find more backing for IHE Pharmacy.

12:00 Adjourn

Pharmacy Planning Committee