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=10:00 - 10:15 Welcome=
 
=10:00 - 10:15 Welcome=
 
*Participants
 
*Participants
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:* Jürgen Brandstätter
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:* Leonidas Tzimis
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:* Jose Costa Teixeira
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:* Michael Tan
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:* Jacqueline Surugue
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:* Marc Robberecht
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:* Stephane Spahni
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:* Simon Lettelier
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:* Angela Merzweiler
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:* Georg Heidenreich
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:* Christof Gessner
  
 
*Review and Approve Agenda
 
*Review and Approve Agenda
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:* Approved
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*Approval of minutes of TCon Oct 2, 2014
 
*Approval of minutes of TCon Oct 2, 2014
 
:* [http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Pharm_Plan_Minutes_2014.10.02 http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Pharm_Plan_Minutes_2014.10.02]
 
:* [http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Pharm_Plan_Minutes_2014.10.02 http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Pharm_Plan_Minutes_2014.10.02]
::* Approved
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:* Approved
  
  
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* Status of profile proposal (Michael, Vincent)
 
* Status of profile proposal (Michael, Vincent)
 
:* Slides shown by Vincent
 
:* Slides shown by Vincent
::* []
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::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Other/QDA,%20Query%20Dispatch%20and%20Aggregate/QDA%20Proposal%20V0_9b.pptx ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Other/QDA,%20Query%20Dispatch%20and%20Aggregate/QDA%20Proposal%20V0_9b.pptx]
:*  
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:* Work-item proposal
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::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Other/QDA,%20Query%20Dispatch%20and%20Aggregate/IHE%20ITI%20QDA%20Workitem%20Proposal%20V0_2.docx ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Technical_Committee/Other/QDA,%20Query%20Dispatch%20and%20Aggregate/IHE%20ITI%20QDA%20Workitem%20Proposal%20V0_2.docx]
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:* Current status
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::* ITI and PCC are not yet convinced, if this is a profile or rather just a whitepaper or implementation guide
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:* Discussion
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::* The group agrees that wide areas of the shown is rather an implementation guide than resolving an interoperability problem
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::* Jürgen outlines, that CMPD has been extended by the query "FindMedicationList", because such kind of queries are needed in reality. CMPD has had the Community Pharmacy Manager available to offer such a transaction (PHARM-1). A standard XDS domain has NOT got such an actor -> if QDA could fill this gap, this would cover a real need.
  
  
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* Proposal
 
* Proposal
 
:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Planning_Committee/Proposals/IHE_Profile_Proposal_Supply_v1.docx ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Planning_Committee/Proposals/IHE_Profile_Proposal_Supply_v1.docx]
 
:* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Planning_Committee/Proposals/IHE_Profile_Proposal_Supply_v1.docx ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Pharmacy/yr6_2014-2015/Planning_Committee/Proposals/IHE_Profile_Proposal_Supply_v1.docx]
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* Vision of proposal and background (Jose)
 
* Vision of proposal and background (Jose)
 
:* Intro/Short review of the Vienna outcomes (and the little progress in Porto), and the current vision to set the scene
 
:* Intro/Short review of the Vienna outcomes (and the little progress in Porto), and the current vision to set the scene
 
:* Review of the current and past activities "behind the stage"
 
:* Review of the current and past activities "behind the stage"
 
:* Structure of the work (WP, content profiles) and how it integrates with other domains
 
:* Structure of the work (WP, content profiles) and how it integrates with other domains
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* Discussion
 
* Discussion
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:* Question: Will the profile will be generic + branded (like XDW)?
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::* No, this is not needed, because '''[[the intended profile will be made "domain-neutral"]]''' and thus natively fitting for all domains like Pharmacy, Radiology, etc.
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:* Question: What about purchasing/contract negotiation? Is that part of the scope?
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::* No, not right now. This is connected to Formulary/Catalog work-item
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::* Decision: Will not be extended in current scope. Will be added into the whitepaper/profile in a later phase.
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:* How to finalize/publish the supply chain whitepaper?
 
:* How to finalize/publish the supply chain whitepaper?
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::* Actually two whitepapers are on the road
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:::* 1) Hospital Medication Supply
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::::* Current status: Contains enough information to be closed. Sufficient for starting the profile development intended. Some open issues (e.g. blood derived products, etc.) could be delivered in later versions.
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::::* Decision:
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:::::* Whitepaper will be finialized to an internal version (Jose/Marc)
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:::::* Final internal review (in particular by IHE Germany)
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:::::* Put to PC
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:::* 2) Enterprise Distribution and supply of items
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::::* Current status: Not yet started. Was intended to collect non-pharmacy use-cases for supply chain.
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::::* Decision:
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:::::* WP will be stopped! Non-pharmacy use-cases will be collected in parallel to profile development and directly embedded into the profile.
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* '''Formal approval of the new work-item proposal'''
 
* '''Formal approval of the new work-item proposal'''
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:* Approved
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* Working team formed
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:* Work-item lead: Jose
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:* Members: Marc, Simon, Angela, Leonidas, Jacqueline
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* Defining next steps
 
* Defining next steps
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:* First working TCon: Nov 13, 2014, 18:00 - 19:00 (Paris time)
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:* Profiles to be developed:
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::* Integration Profile: '''Supply of Products for Healthcare (SPH)'''
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:::* includes actors and transactions
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::* Content Profile: '''Order and Delivery Management (ODM)'''
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:::* includes content specifications for: Order, Delivery (starting with HL7v2)
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::* Content Profile: '''Healthcare Inventory Management (HIM)'''
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:::* includes content specifications for: Inventory Management (starting with in HL7v2)
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:* Action item: Acronyms must be checked, if available (Jose)
  
  

Revision as of 10:29, 28 October 2014

10:00 - 10:15 Welcome

  • Participants
  • Jürgen Brandstätter
  • Leonidas Tzimis
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Michael Tan
  • Jacqueline Surugue
  • Marc Robberecht
  • Stephane Spahni
  • Simon Lettelier
  • Angela Merzweiler
  • Georg Heidenreich
  • Christof Gessner
  • Review and Approve Agenda
  • Approved
  • Approval of minutes of TCon Oct 2, 2014


10:15 - 11:30 HMW Revamp and FHIR

  • Proposal
  • Vision of revamping HWM including FHIR proposal (Jose, Marc)
  • Discussion
  • HMW should be reworked for ease of adoption
  • Optionality of transactions
  • Small updates (security, typos...)
  • Grouped actors
  • this discussion touches the many aspects needed for validating prescriptions, so new actions are expected.
  • Action items:
  • For HMW review, we should try to use the new IHE template.
  • Capturing / adding to list of use cases and domains that may impact /be impacted by this "validation" topic.
  • Jose and Jacqueline volunteer to write it and submit to planning committee for further action.
  • FHIR
  • Jürgen suggests that could be like the HMW.b - a new version of the same transactions, based on the new technical standard.
  • Jürgen asks for the timelines and if a publication is possible. Discussion that the time to start is now, but a publication is not expected before the standard is final.
  • We must use the new version of the IHE publishing template. Meaning that there is a lot more editorial work.


  • Formal approval of the new work-item proposal
  • Work item approved.
  • Jurgen asks that there is an alignment with CMPD. Agreed that all changes to HL7 will a least be reviewed with CMPD in mind.
  • Defining next steps
  • Schedule of work: to be discussed tomorrow.


11:30 - 11:45 Query Dispatch and Aggregate (QDA)

  • Status of profile proposal (Michael, Vincent)
  • Slides shown by Vincent
  • Work-item proposal
  • Current status
  • ITI and PCC are not yet convinced, if this is a profile or rather just a whitepaper or implementation guide
  • Discussion
  • The group agrees that wide areas of the shown is rather an implementation guide than resolving an interoperability problem
  • Jürgen outlines, that CMPD has been extended by the query "FindMedicationList", because such kind of queries are needed in reality. CMPD has had the Community Pharmacy Manager available to offer such a transaction (PHARM-1). A standard XDS domain has NOT got such an actor -> if QDA could fill this gap, this would cover a real need.


12:15 - 13:30 Medication Data Management vs Medication Management

  • What is "Medication Data Management"?
  • Vision of proposal and background (Jose)
  • What is "Medication Management"?
  • Document "Medication Management Related Concepts and Definitions" (Michael/Stephen)
  • Discussion / Decisions
  • Decision: Both work-items will be kept and operated
  • Medication Management
  • Name decided: Medication Management
  • Champions: Michael/Stephen
  • Formerly known as "Top-down approach"
  • Purpose and Scope: Definition of Medication Management concepts, processses and terms (e.g. What is "Medication Management", "Medication Profile", Reconciliation, ...)
  • Degree of cross-domain: IHE Pharmacy, HL7 Pharmacy, ISO TC215 WG6
  • Published (preferred) by all three (Document of common understanding)
  • Project management
  • Target publishing date: end of season 2014/2015
  • Current document needs more resources/reviewers/contributors to be finalized (Michael)
  • Re-approaching HL7 Pharmacy
  • Approaching ISO TC215 WG6
  • Michael keeps group informed about status
  • Medication Data Management
  • Name decided: Medication Data Collection
  • Champion: Jose
  • Formerly known as "Bottom-up approach"
  • Purpose and Scope: Identify, analyse and catalogue different existing implementations of standards which provide medication data (e.g. IHE Pharmacy, NCPDP list, CCR, ...)
  • Degree of cross-domain: IHE (PHARM, ITI, PCC)
  • Published by IHE
  • Project management
  • Target publishing date: end of season 2014/2015
  • Needs a first phase of work with reviewing afterwards (Jose)
  • Jose triggers the group once there is something to review
  • Relationship, Synergy, Boundaries between the two work-items
  • Medication Data Management can be seen as an (detailed) extension of Medication Management in the area of the possible data sources
  • Both work-items must not contradict each other (e.g. in the chapter "Data elements", ...)


13:30 - 14:30 Lunch

14:30 - 16:15 Supply of Healthcare Products

  • Proposal
  • Vision of proposal and background (Jose)
  • Intro/Short review of the Vienna outcomes (and the little progress in Porto), and the current vision to set the scene
  • Review of the current and past activities "behind the stage"
  • Structure of the work (WP, content profiles) and how it integrates with other domains
  • Discussion
  • Question: Will the profile will be generic + branded (like XDW)?
  • Question: What about purchasing/contract negotiation? Is that part of the scope?
  • No, not right now. This is connected to Formulary/Catalog work-item
  • Decision: Will not be extended in current scope. Will be added into the whitepaper/profile in a later phase.
  • How to finalize/publish the supply chain whitepaper?
  • Actually two whitepapers are on the road
  • 1) Hospital Medication Supply
  • Current status: Contains enough information to be closed. Sufficient for starting the profile development intended. Some open issues (e.g. blood derived products, etc.) could be delivered in later versions.
  • Decision:
  • Whitepaper will be finialized to an internal version (Jose/Marc)
  • Final internal review (in particular by IHE Germany)
  • Put to PC
  • 2) Enterprise Distribution and supply of items
  • Current status: Not yet started. Was intended to collect non-pharmacy use-cases for supply chain.
  • Decision:
  • WP will be stopped! Non-pharmacy use-cases will be collected in parallel to profile development and directly embedded into the profile.
  • Formal approval of the new work-item proposal
  • Approved
  • Working team formed
  • Work-item lead: Jose
  • Members: Marc, Simon, Angela, Leonidas, Jacqueline
  • Defining next steps
  • First working TCon: Nov 13, 2014, 18:00 - 19:00 (Paris time)
  • Profiles to be developed:
  • Integration Profile: Supply of Products for Healthcare (SPH)
  • includes actors and transactions
  • Content Profile: Order and Delivery Management (ODM)
  • includes content specifications for: Order, Delivery (starting with HL7v2)
  • Content Profile: Healthcare Inventory Management (HIM)
  • includes content specifications for: Inventory Management (starting with in HL7v2)
  • Action item: Acronyms must be checked, if available (Jose)


16:15 - 16:30 Break

16:30 - 18:00 Healthcare Products Catalog interoperability

  • Proposal
  • Discussion
  • How to finalize/publish the formulary whitepaper?
  • Formal approval of the new work-item proposal
  • Defining next steps


18:00 Adjourn

Pharmacy Planning Committee