PaLM Conf Minutes 2021-November-10

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Attendees

Name Email
Alessandro Sulis alessandro.sulis@crs4.it
James McNulty jmcnult@cap.org
Kevin Schap kschap@cap.org
Dan Rutz dRutz@epic.com
Raj Dash r.dash@duke.edu
Megumi Kondo megumi.kondo.sakura.japan@gmail.com
Jim Harrison james.harrison@virginia.edu
Ralf Herzog ralf.herzog@roche.com
JD Nolen jdlnolen@gmail.com
Francesca Frexia francesca.frexia@crs4.it
Gunter Haroske haroske@icloud.com
Gianluca Pavan Arsenal.IT
Alex Goel agoel@cap.org
David Beckman dBeckman@epic.com
Gregorio Canal Arsenal.IT
Jurgen Brandstatter
Hynek Kruzik
Juan Antonio De Los Cobos
Christof Gessner
Ebaad Ahmed
David de Mena

Next meeting: December 8, 2021

  • Review of work proposals for 2022
    • No New proposals. Deadline has expired.
    • In situations like these, we have extended the deadline in case there are proposals that just hadn't been submitted yet.
    • Deadline to be extended.
    • CAP may have a proposal coming soon related to proficiency testing
  • Updates related to Sample Identification Profile
    • No updates for this call
    • Postpone for next month
  • Review any comments on Supplements:
    • Radiology Pathology Concordance (RPC)
      • No new comments on the forum or the wiki.
      • Public comment period expired, so Alex Goel can move on to submitting to Mary Jungers.
    • Follow up on the National Cancer Institute’s Imaging Data Commons (IDC)
      • Markus Herrmann not on the call
      • Postpone for next call
  • Update on publications for
    • SET
      • No comments during the public comment period that expired last month.
      • Alessandro to write email to Mary Jungers to ask her to move on to publication.
      • Mary Jungers said that if we are ready in the next week, then she will finalize the document, and then the PaLM will give a final approval.
    • DPIA comments
      • Riki submitted change proposal.
      • There was a request for votes with a deadline of two weeks. Deadline is November 18th.
      • Can likely approve on the next call
  • Update on new projects
    • Digital Pathology Aid for Telemedicine (DP-AT)
      • Gianluca has a few new updates, new version will be available next week.
      • Two major systems now highlighted in graphic
        • Imaging Consumer system
        • Imaging Producer system
      • Requesting comments on the 2nd chapter
  • Representation of laboratory results in patient summaries
    • Updates to this older proposal
    • Lead by Riki, not on the call
    • Ralf & JD
      • Crosswalked SET with the specimen model
      • May be outstanding votes on the message structure
  • Digital Pathology and Structured Reporting (SR)
    • Gunter is working with the medical informatics initiative in profiling the diagnostic report in questionnaires and question responses.
      • Convinced it should be possible but no significant progress yet.
    • Would be helpful to have guidance document indicating when to use which profile for representing data.
  • General Comments
    • How to vote on different things?
        • Send email directly to Mary Kennedy (mkenned@cap.org)


Second hour (to listen to recording of second hour: https://cap-org.zoom.us/rec/share/g2QWOI_AM7VmRaL8z5fOIaLKXfu2lRSI_40XY9MfucUUUAeXYROU7rpqJ190KTUF.JdUJk4pFRbhWjHwt Passcode: @r3&sg@&)

  • Lab Initiatives in Europe
    • Introduction Round
      • Joined by:
        • Jurgen Brandstatter
        • Hynek Kruzik
        • Juan Antonio De Los Cobos
        • Christof Gessner
    • X-eHealth introduction (Jürgen)
      • A project of the EU
      • Funded with EU commission money
      • Already connected to the prework of cross border clinical data exchange. MyHealthEU
      • Some countries already have national contact point. Idea is each country installs a national contact point for other countries to reach to.
      • Data is queried and transferred across the borders.
      • Started with patient summary sharing.
      • How will labs get funding to map their local codes to these shared codes?
        • Responsibility ends at the country level and not at the hospital level. Member states need to work out internally how they will coordinated this work.
      • Representing lab test identity is difficult. How will you represent if the results are interoperable.
        • This is one of the major issues we have. Could not find data structures in the profile.
        • Added fields for device, kit, calibrator, procedure/method. Would like more input.
        • Would like to form a task force between the two groups to work on this particular document being reviewed.
      • Project has a scientific advisory board. Can officially involve anyone who would like to join that.
      • Timeline says they should finish specification in April 2022. Issues must be resolved by then. The paper is then in draft and out for review to become a European standard. This standard is really for NCP to NCP communication.
      • Would like to have timely meetings with PaLM to work through these issues.
  • Overview on the issues
    • 19 different issues. In different types.
      • Guidance
      • Potential CP
      • Informational for IHE
  • Finding a schedule for our working sessions
    • Would like a series of 1,2, or 3 working meeting to get through the issues.
    • Would like meetings to be timely.
    • May need to recruit back some of the people originally involved in XD-LAB. PaLM responsible for updating it.
    • Can dedicate the second hour of our December meeting for this. Might also use 30 minutes of the first hour.
    • If a smaller workgroup is interested, email Mary and Kevin to indicate interest.
    • Dr. Dash to confirm key people will be available then.
    • Jurgen to send spreadsheet of issues with references to where they are looking in XD-Lab