PaLM Conf Minutes 2021-May-12

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Attendees

Name Email
Francois Macary Francois.macary@phast.fr
Riki Merrick rikimerrick@gmail.com
Alessandro Sulis Allesandro.sulis@crs4.it
Dan Rutz drutz@epic.com
Filip Migom Filip.migom@mips.be
Raj Dash r.dash@duke.edu
Megumi Kondo megumi.kondo.sakura.japan@gmail.com
Jim Harrison james.harrison@virginia.edu
Ralf Herzog ralf.herzog@roche.com
JD Nolen jdlnolen@gmail.com
Francesca Frexia Francesca.frexia@crs4.it
Nick Haarselhorst nick.haarselhorst@philips.com
Mary Kennedy mkenned@cap.org
Gunter Haroske haroske@icloud.com
Brian Bialecki bbialecki@acr.org
Gianluca Pavan Arsenal.IT
Alex Goel agoel@cap.org
David Beckman dBeckman@epic.com
Gregorio Canal Arsenal.IT
Sujith Nair snair@acr.org
Kevin Schap kschap@cap.org
Mandel Mickley
Norman Zerbe norman.zerbe@charite.de
Victor Brodsky

Next meeting: June 9, 2021 and meeting with DICOM WG 26 on June 15

Discussion

  • IHE PaLM – DICOM WG26 June 15th - 3 -5 PM Central European Time
    • Topics to be worked out with Mikael and Marcus and then send to Norman
    • Best to have at least 2 weeks in advance
    • Next Steps: Send topics to Mary by May 21
      • So far we have below:
        • Transferring an annotation back and forth
        • Highlighting the annotation / region of interest to be reviewed
  • F2F meeting update
    • Still on the calendar for September, as by end of July we should be getting back to “normal”, unless the Indian variant is not covered well by the vaccine
  • Digital Pathology Aid for Telemedicine
    • Have updated the diagrams by splitting it out into easier use case representation
    • Addresses security separately based on ITI profiles
    • How do we recruit vendors to help validate that these transactions are correct
      • Pathology PACS
        • Septra, Inspirata, Carista
        • Routing of the consultation:
    • Can you re-route to another consultant (because the originally assigned is away) or have more than one (junior and supervisor both review) on one image?
      • The task manager could specify what system the task is assigned to
      • Currently don’t know the performer until then
      • No limit on the number of systems that tasks can be assigned to
      • For re-routing would have to be a cancel and request
    • Can a choice be added on the fly or can this only be done with per-assigned systems?
      • System A knows the provider for the task
      • Task manager assigns the performer
      • But both would have to have a list of systems available to perform the tasks
      • So it is pre-configured
      • Per the white paper the security and BAA would have to be in place
    • How to define a document set = How do I define a region of interest on a specific slide in a set of multiples?
      • Could we rename “System A” to “Requestor” and “System B” to be the “Consultant”?
      • RAD-68 transaction allows you to specify the manifest of the documents
      • Also see: https://wiki.ihe.net/index.php/Key_Image_Note
      • RAD-111 has reference to the image that you want reviewed (from A to Task Manager)
      • How to transfer a link to an annotation / region of interest
      • Can the transactions support sending back
      • XRRWD has the specifics around details like urgency for review etc. – need to review those
      • Also should align with the archive transactions
      • Should support DICOM Supplement 222
    • How are annotations handled?
      • In radiology this is new topic, there is a white paper out – bring this up as topic for the joint meeting
      • DICOM only goes to the image level, but not any deeper
      • Have not yet considered the web-based profile from DICOM
    • Topics for DICOM joint meeting:
      • Transferring an annotation back and forth
      • Highlighting the annotation / region of interest to be reviewed
    • Next steps:
  • SET update
    • Have collected comments from the review
      • Will fix the typos for sure
      • Some discussion needed:
        • Can you collect a specimen without having a label available already?
          • Not in scope of this profile at this time
          • Also may be a legal requirement to have containers be labeled prior to collection
        • SPM-2 and SPM-3 need to be distinguished
        • SAC-3 and SAC-4 need to be distinguished
        • Will add clarification around the order related comments
      • Will update and publish for comment by end of May
      • Here are the comments for all
  • RadPath profile update via chat:
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