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:* Open Date: Monitor registrations for various actors. The next update will be available soon.
 
:* Open Date: Monitor registrations for various actors. The next update will be available soon.
Ruth indicated that GE Enterprise includes the 5-rights data entry.
 
Special meeting was held to address ADT, other ID. Al had provided information about PAM, the need for A04 which is in ITI-31, not ITI-30, will be part of patient ID issue.
 
Colin FX (Epic) and Ruth (GE) offered approaches to support patient ID/registration requirements / issues from discussion.
 
 
:* Dec. 17: (Manny) Summarize focused meeting, include diagram.  
 
:* Dec. 17: (Manny) Summarize focused meeting, include diagram.  
 
::* Manny will contact John Donnelly to learn if HIMSS Convention Registration will include an MRN barcode, what the barcode standard will be
 
::* Manny will contact John Donnelly to learn if HIMSS Convention Registration will include an MRN barcode, what the barcode standard will be
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:* Dec. 17: Datamax and Zebra have been approached. Zebra appears willing. Manny to talk with them about bar code printers again after today's meetings.  
 
:* Dec. 17: Datamax and Zebra have been approached. Zebra appears willing. Manny to talk with them about bar code printers again after today's meetings.  
 
:* Dec. 17 (John Garguilo): Continue to provide updates on how RTM will be tested in Pre-Connectathon, Virtual Connectathon, and Connectathon.
 
:* Dec. 17 (John Garguilo): Continue to provide updates on how RTM will be tested in Pre-Connectathon, Virtual Connectathon, and Connectathon.
::* (Pump Vendors, Enterprise Systems) Vendors will provide their own approach to bar coding for drugs, infusions, patients and caregivers.
 
(All) Patient IDs, ADT/PIB issues, device and caregiver ID are covered in other items on the list.
 
 
:* Dec. 17: (Manny) Created Wiki page for "virtual connectathon" on Connectathon '09 page. Will eventually include, partners, issues list / resolution, status, etc.  
 
:* Dec. 17: (Manny) Created Wiki page for "virtual connectathon" on Connectathon '09 page. Will eventually include, partners, issues list / resolution, status, etc.  
 
:* Dec. 17: (Bikram, Rita/Jim Higgins) Identify the devices to be connected to middleware
 
:* Dec. 17: (Bikram, Rita/Jim Higgins) Identify the devices to be connected to middleware
 
:* Dec. 17: (Moved) (Manny) Coordinate ADT testing (Virtual and Connectathon) with Bill Klaver, coordinate with Steve Moore, John Donnelly, seek a backup system.
 
:* Dec. 17: (Moved) (Manny) Coordinate ADT testing (Virtual and Connectathon) with Bill Klaver, coordinate with Steve Moore, John Donnelly, seek a backup system.
 
:* Dec. 17:(Brett) Update name for alarm product
 
:* Dec. 17:(Brett) Update name for alarm product
(Manny, pump vendors, any others) Wireless spectrum management. Didi is not supportive of addressing this throughout the convention hall, recommends approaching John Donnelly. Manny will contact John.
 
 
:* Dec. 17: (Manny) Update structure diagrams with SIS, other, and printers
 
:* Dec. 17: (Manny) Update structure diagrams with SIS, other, and printers
Emergin, LiveData) Connectathon on site testing with Polycom is scheduled for Thursday, Friday morning.
 
 
:* Jan. 6: Define contents of fourth wall
 
:* Jan. 6: Define contents of fourth wall
 
:* Jan. 6:(Manny) Business card for Showcase w/ all companies listed + Booth numbers
 
:* Jan. 6:(Manny) Business card for Showcase w/ all companies listed + Booth numbers
 
:* Jan. 6?: (Manny) Set PCD Docent training WebEx / on site (and run through at Connectathon)
 
:* Jan. 6?: (Manny) Set PCD Docent training WebEx / on site (and run through at Connectathon)
 
:* Jan. 6?: (All) Webex run through of draft Scenario
 
:* Jan. 6?: (All) Webex run through of draft Scenario
:* Jan. 14: (Ken) Update block diagram with locations of SIS, Cerner, Capsule
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:* Jan. 13: (Pump Vendors, Enterprise Systems) Vendors will provide their own approach to bar coding for drugs, infusions, patients and caregivers and will share with partners needing this information for the Virtual Connectathon and later activities.
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:* Jan. 13: (Ken) Update block diagram with locations of SIS, Cerner, Capsule
 
:* Jan. 14:  Steve Moore needs MAC addresses
 
:* Jan. 14:  Steve Moore needs MAC addresses
 
:* Jan. 19-30: Virtual Connectathon (tentative deadline for completion; partners may test anytime before this)
 
:* Jan. 19-30: Virtual Connectathon (tentative deadline for completion; partners may test anytime before this)
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== Agenda ==
 
== Agenda ==
  
: Action Items (see below, this page)
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: Action Items
 
: Issues and questions about:
 
: Issues and questions about:
 
::* The Trial Implementation version of any profiles
 
::* The Trial Implementation version of any profiles
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::: -PAM, PDQ for PCD alone - see the DOR tests; for complete PAM, PDQ see MESA tests
 
::: -PAM, PDQ for PCD alone - see the DOR tests; for complete PAM, PDQ see MESA tests
 
::* Visitor/patient, caregiver, device ID; follow up to last week's special meeting if necessary
 
::* Visitor/patient, caregiver, device ID; follow up to last week's special meeting if necessary
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::* Report any discrepancies on tests listed for your systems to Manny
 
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: Connectathon Planning
 
: Connectathon Planning
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::: -Virtual Connectathon testing is separate from these
 
::: -Virtual Connectathon testing is separate from these
 
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Showcase Planning
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: Showcase Planning
 
::* Scenario update
 
::* Scenario update
 
:::- Wiki page for Scripts
 
:::- Wiki page for Scripts
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:::- Ruth's questions; can we use the patient's name, sex and preload other data?
 
::* Showcase Structure
 
::* Showcase Structure
 
:::- Drawings, only minor changes are required
 
:::- Drawings, only minor changes are required
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:::- Physical requirements (size, mounts if larger, etc)
 
:::- Physical requirements (size, mounts if larger, etc)
 
:::- Logos - one per company - which sides?
 
:::- Logos - one per company - which sides?
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::* Pumps: KVM or no KVM swithces
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::* Fourth Wall - what will we do with it?
 
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:
 
 
: Timeline
 
: Timeline
 
::* Steve's: http://www.ihe.net/north_america/upload/NA-2009-Connectathon-Timeline-FINAL.pdf
 
::* Steve's: http://www.ihe.net/north_america/upload/NA-2009-Connectathon-Timeline-FINAL.pdf
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:
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: Next Meetings
  
 
== Participants ==
 
== Participants ==
  
Anupriyo Chakravarti, Al Engelbert, Robert Flanders, Brian Fors, Ken Fuchs, John Garguilo, Colin FX Gartska, Monroe Pattillo, John Rhoads, Jeff Rinda, Manny Furst
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Ruth Berge, Rita Brahmbahtt, Brett Cohen, Bikram Day, Al Engelbert, Robert Flanders, Chad Hays, Brad Lunde, Gary Meyer, John Rhoads, Jeff Rinda, Manny Furst
  
 
== Discussion ==
 
== Discussion ==
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| '''Introductions & Agenda Review''' <br>- Manny
 
| '''Introductions & Agenda Review''' <br>- Manny
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
: Anupriyo and Surgical Information Systems were welcomed to the PCD and this cycle.
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: Accepted
  
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
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| '''Action Items''' <br>- Manny
 
| '''Action Items''' <br>- Manny
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
Action Items were discussed later in the meeting. Those discussed and due Dec. 10 were:
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:* An update on participants and their actors will be available soon.
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Those discussed and due Dec. 17 were:
:* The focused meeting was held earlier today. Manny will summarize and distribute for review. This includes:
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:* ADT/visitor identification, system associations - see below.
:: -Patient/Visitor ID was addressed. Caregiver and/or device IDs will be addressed by the companies using this information.
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:* Manny reminded participants of information that is due.
:: -Manny to ask John Donnelly if visitors will register at the Showcase or if the HIMSS meeting registration number will be the MRN, and if a separate bar code for MRN alone can be provided.
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:* Tests will be available after the holidays.
:* Bikram was not available to confirm that Capsule will not support a distributed demo.
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:* Participants were asked to provide draft materials for the scripts in the next week. Manny will edit and we will schedule a run through early in January, refine the scripts and prepare for rehearsal at the Connectathon.
 
:: The scripts should address the overarching issues identified in the stakeholder survey as appropriate.
 
:* John Garguilo provided an update in the earlier TC meeting. In this meeting, it appears the most efficient and effective approach will be for (a) NIST to use messages the DORs generate in Pre-Connectathon testing, that are shown error free in the MWB, and (b) optionally, developers will be able to test their systems on line with the NIST system. Manny will establish a folder on the ftp site for each system and these will be available for NIST pilot testing. Testing will address entries in the RTM table, and will not address parameter limits, etc. in this cycle.
 
:* The Virtual Connectathon Wiki page was created, but will not be used until Pre-Connectathon tests are selected for the Virtual Connectathon.
 
:* Bikram and Rita will identify devices to be connected and select the site (ICU or SD) where each will be located.
 
:
 
 
Items with other dates:
 
Items with other dates:
:* Steve needs the IP and MAC addresses by the middle of January.
 
:* Suggestions for use of the fourth wall should be sent to Todd, with a copy to Manny.
 
:* Manny is seeking guidance on the business cards from HIMSS.
 
 
:
 
:
 
Those closed were:
 
Those closed were:
:* GE Enterprise supports the five rights
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:* Bidirectional demonstration will not take place.
  
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''  
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''  
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| '''Issues and Questions''' <br>- Manny
 
| '''Issues and Questions''' <br>- Manny
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* None
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Patient/visitor identification and associating the ID with the device.
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:* Extended discussion included:
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: - Ruth asked if GE Enterprise and Epic would provide ADT messages to PCD systems that can use ADT.
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: - Ruth raised questions about associating devices and systems, and how patients are admitted/discharged or removed. This year one patient may start, another end on a given wall. The data from the first clinical site the visitor attends must flow from that area to the next.
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: - Al suggested that a visitor be registered at the Showcase, and that Epic, GE re-register them on the global ADT system and PCD systems can listen to that updated registration.
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: - Location information may or may not be required by any system, even if there is a workaround required. Systems will have only one bed, one patient at a time.
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: - Patient would be registered by Ruth or Colin and they would create a subset with a separate feed for PCD available to and Cerner and Epic
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: - Manny to ask John Donnelly again about registration – will it be all HIMSS registrations or just Showcase.
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: - Manny to schedule another meeting to resolve remaining issues.
  
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
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| '''Status/Discussion:'''
 
| '''Status/Discussion:'''
:* Participants were asked to add parameters and suggested values to the Wiki page. Existing entries for scripts provide a good introduction. As noted above, Manny will edit late in the month.
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:*  
:* Structure drawings will require minor changes, additon of SIS and printers, and other changes.
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:* Participants will provide physical and utility requirements.
 
:* Ken suggested that logos for all companies be placed on each of the three walls. Participants will consult with their marketing people or others and indicate their preference of this approach or one larger logo on one of the three walls.
 
 
:* Test case development:
 
:* Test case development:
:: -DEC - revised 2008 version out for review for Pre-Connectathon, Connectathon tests.
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Test Cases are out for review of tests or concepts
:: -Decision on which tests to use for Virtual Connectathon will follow discussion.
 
:: -ACM - concept out for review; if no changes are suggested detailed Pre-Connectathon test documents will be provided.
 
:: -PIV - concept has been reviewed, Manny requested any additional drug information that is relevant, and detailed Pre-Connectathon test documents will be provided.
 
:: -RTM - NIST and PCD goals and process were described above in the Action Items list.
 
  
 
:* Virtual Connectathon
 
:* Virtual Connectathon
:: -This is outside the scope of the Connectathon and the Showcase. It will be completed no later than the end of January, with most testing the last two weeks of the month. Motivation is to add confidence to achieving successful performance at the Connectathon and to increase the efficiency of Connectathon testing to enable testing of more actors than would otherwise be possible.
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:: - no change
  
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''
 
'''Decisions/Issues:'''

Latest revision as of 10:03, 20 December 2008

PCD Connectathon/Showcase WG


Action Items

Due Dates and Item:

  • Open Date: Monitor registrations for various actors. The next update will be available soon.
  • Dec. 17: (Manny) Summarize focused meeting, include diagram.
  • Manny will contact John Donnelly to learn if HIMSS Convention Registration will include an MRN barcode, what the barcode standard will be
  • Dec. 17: (Bikram) Now unlikely to have bidirectional distributed demo - pushing data in from their booth to the demo.
  • Dec. 17: (All) Provide material for the Scenario (outline or brief description) to be followed by Manny compiling a single view.
  • Identify overarching message (e.g., patient safety. Note that Ray presented the stakeholder survey which showed
  • Survey Slide #17, "Improved Patient Care and Safety" was by far the greatest "incentives for IHE integration"; #2 was "Long term cost reduction"; #3 was improved workflow
  • Workshop discussion suggested we focus on these, with 5 rights, remote alarm communication among the specifics
  • Dec. 17: Datamax and Zebra have been approached. Zebra appears willing. Manny to talk with them about bar code printers again after today's meetings.
  • Dec. 17 (John Garguilo): Continue to provide updates on how RTM will be tested in Pre-Connectathon, Virtual Connectathon, and Connectathon.
  • Dec. 17: (Manny) Created Wiki page for "virtual connectathon" on Connectathon '09 page. Will eventually include, partners, issues list / resolution, status, etc.
  • Dec. 17: (Bikram, Rita/Jim Higgins) Identify the devices to be connected to middleware
  • Dec. 17: (Moved) (Manny) Coordinate ADT testing (Virtual and Connectathon) with Bill Klaver, coordinate with Steve Moore, John Donnelly, seek a backup system.
  • Dec. 17:(Brett) Update name for alarm product
  • Dec. 17: (Manny) Update structure diagrams with SIS, other, and printers
  • Jan. 6: Define contents of fourth wall
  • Jan. 6:(Manny) Business card for Showcase w/ all companies listed + Booth numbers
  • Jan. 6?: (Manny) Set PCD Docent training WebEx / on site (and run through at Connectathon)
  • Jan. 6?: (All) Webex run through of draft Scenario
  • Jan. 13: (Pump Vendors, Enterprise Systems) Vendors will provide their own approach to bar coding for drugs, infusions, patients and caregivers and will share with partners needing this information for the Virtual Connectathon and later activities.
  • Jan. 13: (Ken) Update block diagram with locations of SIS, Cerner, Capsule
  • Jan. 14: Steve Moore needs MAC addresses
  • Jan. 19-30: Virtual Connectathon (tentative deadline for completion; partners may test anytime before this)

Agenda

Action Items
Issues and questions about:
  • The Trial Implementation version of any profiles
  • Registration update; PIV registrations of DEC as option or full listing
  • The MWB
  • HL7
-Version 2.6 vs 2.5
  • Kudu
-PAM, PDQ for PCD alone - see the DOR tests; for complete PAM, PDQ see MESA tests
  • Visitor/patient, caregiver, device ID; follow up to last week's special meeting if necessary
  • Report any discrepancies on tests listed for your systems to Manny
Connectathon Planning
  • Status report on Test Case development for Pre-Connectathon, Virtual Connectathon, Connectathon
-DEC - revised 2008 version out for review for Pre-Connectathon, Connectathon tests
Decision on which tests to use for Virtual Connectathon will follow
-ACM - concept out for review
-PIV - concept has been reviewed, request drug information
-RTM - NIST
  • Will be entered into Kudu ASAP for Pre-Connectathon and Connectathon testing
-Virtual Connectathon testing is separate from these
Showcase Planning
  • Scenario update
- Wiki page for Scripts
- Ruth's questions; can we use the patient's name, sex and preload other data?
  • Showcase Structure
- Drawings, only minor changes are required
- Utilities (electric, network)
- Physical requirements (size, mounts if larger, etc)
- Logos - one per company - which sides?
  • Pumps: KVM or no KVM swithces
  • Fourth Wall - what will we do with it?
Timeline
Next Meetings

Participants

Ruth Berge, Rita Brahmbahtt, Brett Cohen, Bikram Day, Al Engelbert, Robert Flanders, Chad Hays, Brad Lunde, Gary Meyer, John Rhoads, Jeff Rinda, Manny Furst

Discussion

Review of Meeting Notes: Corrections should be made to the Wiki; significant issues placed on agenda of the next meeting

Item Topic Discussion
1 Introductions & Agenda Review
- Manny
Status/Discussion:
Accepted

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

2 Action Items
- Manny
Status/Discussion:

Those discussed and due Dec. 17 were:

  • ADT/visitor identification, system associations - see below.
  • Manny reminded participants of information that is due.
  • Tests will be available after the holidays.

Items with other dates:

Those closed were:

  • Bidirectional demonstration will not take place.

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

  • As above.
3 Issues and Questions
- Manny
Status/Discussion:

Patient/visitor identification and associating the ID with the device.

  • Extended discussion included:
- Ruth asked if GE Enterprise and Epic would provide ADT messages to PCD systems that can use ADT.
- Ruth raised questions about associating devices and systems, and how patients are admitted/discharged or removed. This year one patient may start, another end on a given wall. The data from the first clinical site the visitor attends must flow from that area to the next.
- Al suggested that a visitor be registered at the Showcase, and that Epic, GE re-register them on the global ADT system and PCD systems can listen to that updated registration.
- Location information may or may not be required by any system, even if there is a workaround required. Systems will have only one bed, one patient at a time.
- Patient would be registered by Ruth or Colin and they would create a subset with a separate feed for PCD available to and Cerner and Epic
- Manny to ask John Donnelly again about registration – will it be all HIMSS registrations or just Showcase.
- Manny to schedule another meeting to resolve remaining issues.

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):

4 Connectathon Planning
- Manny
Status/Discussion:
  • Test case development:

Test Cases are out for review of tests or concepts

  • Virtual Connectathon
- no change

Decisions/Issues:

Action(s):


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