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IHE PCC Technical Minutes 11/16/2017 All Profile Proposals and evaluation matrix can be found at the FTP site: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Coordination/yr14_2018-2019/Technical%20Committee/Detailed%20Proposals%202018_2019%20Cycle/




Time (US Central DST) Agenda Item Notes
Thursday, November 16th
9:00 – 9:30 FHIR PlanDefinition for Care Planning Present: Thom Kuhn (ACP), Michael Clifton (Epic), Chris Melo (Philips), Rafealle Giordano (Arsenal Italy), Emma Jones (Allscripts), Denise Downing (AORN), Gila Pyke (Cognaissance)

Phone: Neelima (VA), Jeff Danford (Allscripts), Dr. Miller (HCO)

Reviewed changes to Detailed Proposals-Arsenal Italy is defining general workflows and Task Resources, this profile will consult with Arsenal Italy who is doing implementations

T-cons - do a Doodle poll for a biweekly meetings


9:30 – 10:00 CDA Document Summary Section Present:Thom Kuhn (ACP), Michael Clifton (Epic), Chris Melo (Philips), Rafealle Goirdano (Arsenal Italy), Emma Jones (Allscripts), Denise Downing (AORN), Gila Pyke (Cognaissance)

Phone: Neelima (VA), Dr. Miller (HCO), Dan Venton (Allscripts)

Updated the Detailed Proposal – grouped the Use Cases differently, two groups - Group A and Group B

Technical approach create one profile, New Summary section will be optional and the profile will explore conformances (shall, should and may)

T-cons – do a Doodle poll for scheduling T-cons meeting every other week – Friday’s are better than Thursday, Friday morning or Monday

10:00 – 10:30 Emergency Transport to Facility (ETF) Present: Thom Kuhn (ACP), Michael Clifton (Epic), Chris Melo (Philips), Rafealle Giordano (Arsenal Italy), Amit Popit (Epic), Emma Jones (Allscripts), Denise Downing (AORN), Gila Pyke (Cognaissance), Chris Carr (HIMSS)

Phone: Neelima (VA), Tone Southerland (IQVIA), Dr. Miller (HCO)

Displayed the completed Detailed Proposal template, need a new Actor for FHIR, change the Actors name of the Actor FHIR Responder, perform a gap analysis between NEMSIS and FHIR

Co-chairs will reach out to Greg Mears (Zoll) to encourage them to become members. Cost is low, but the IP concerns are important. Bring Chris/IHE International in to help if that doesn’t work. Also reach out to NEMSIS

Barring that, IHE PCC Co-chairs have the discretion to invite them as a guest to provide advice but not to author or vote. If other vendors try to take advantage of this loophole, Co-chairs have the power to say no.

T-cons - Biweekly meetings – Mondays or Wednesday prior to 12pm Eastern

Goal is to create one new profile and deprecate ETS/ITS, reach-out to users of ETS/ITS before we deprecate them Change profile name to Ambulance Transfer to Facility (AFT)

10:30 – 11:00 Rating, Discussion and Voting Present: Thom Kuhn (ACP), Michael Clifton (Epic), Chris Melo (Philips), Rafealle Giordano (Arsenal Italy), Amit Popit (Epic), Emma Jones (Allscripts), Denise Downing (AORN), Gila Pyke (Cognaissance)

Phone: Neelima (VA), Tone Southerland (IQVIA), Dr. Miller (HCO)

Rating of the profiles can be found here: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/Patient_Care_Coordination/yr14_2018-2019/Technical%20Committee/Detailed%20Proposals%202018_2019%20Cycle/2018-2019%20PCC%20TECH%20ProposalEvaluationMatrix%2020171006.xlsx

AFT - Tone motioned Emma seconded, No Objections, No Abstains

CDA Summary - Amit motioned, Neelima seconded, No Objections, 1 Abstains

FHIR PlanDefinition – Emma motioned, Neelima seconded, No Objections, 1 Abstain


11:00 – 11:15 Break
11:15 – 12:00 T-con Planning and Scheduling, Profile year Publication Planning, CPs Discussed Doodle Polls for each profile to schedule weekly or bi-weekly meeting times
12:00 – 12:30 PCC Planning - Engagement Present: Thom Kuhn (ACP), Michael Clifton (Epic), Amit Popit (Epic), Chris Melo (Philips), Rafealle Gairdano (Arsenal Italy), Emma Jones (Allscripts), Denise Downing (AORN), Gila Pyke (Cognaissance), Chris Carr (HIMSS)

Phone: Thierry Dart (ASIP Sante), Neelima (VA), Jeff Danford (Allscripts)


Membership Discussion with Chris Carr

Andrea is the provider side, but we need input from the technical side as an EMS system and those implementers may need to be an IHE member, there is an aspect of IP and patents with becoming a member

General PCC Development DiscussionCDA and FHIR profile discussion - as a committee do we focus on the need or we wait until the need is brought up to us that the ecosystem wants to use a certain standard, as a committee it has been brought to PCC that developers only want to do FHIR, but CDA is what is currently out in the healthcare environment, to stay relevant and satisfy both needs PCC has chosen to develop some profiles with the CDA and FHIR perspectives


12:30 – 1:30 Adjourn and Lunch