ITI CPs 2017-18-Agenda and Minutes from past CP calls

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ITI domain CPs for 2017-2018 are managed here: ITI Change Proposals 2018

This page contains the minutes from past CP review calls during the 2017-18 publication cycle.

Current ITI CP status spreadsheet is here

Aug 24, 2017

Attendees: Gregorio Canal (Arsenàl.IT), John Moehrke (By Light), Tarik Idris (ICW), Joe Lamy (SSA, Aegis), Elliott Lavy (Harris), Elliot Silver (Change HC), Gretchen Sutton, Viral Rama (Orion)

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Assigned CPs for review ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • Discussion of related CPs 594 and 808 and XDS implementor's topic Is XDSDocumentEntry.uniqueid Strictly OID Formatted?. See thread at: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ihe-xds-implementors/VM__q0oxm68
    • We don't know whether we arrived at a solution previously. Participants in this call agreed that we should not be strict. Proposed change to use String data type, but give guidance on how to encode common types of identifiers. This avoids problems when querying by uniqueId. CP-ITI-994-01 in ballot 44 already changes the wording of the examples in the coding section. Other suggestion to force OID, OID^extension or URI. Participants can live with a recommendation for OID (includes DICOM as an example), OID^extension or URI without forcing it. Cancel CP-594 and point to CP-808. CP-808 will be assigned to Tarik, will check CP-594 and make sure there is no overlap with Rob's CP regarding uniqueIds for slightly different CDAs with the same ClinicalDocument/id.
  • 1050-01 - Appendix B Cleanup UID specifications (Elliott L)
    • Elliott will improve the editor instructions to get rid of the yellow. He will move it to completed. To be include in next ballot.
  • 1060-02 - Need Null Flavor for FormatCode (Elliott L)
    • out of time, moved to next call

Aug 17, 2017

Attendees: John Moehrke (By Light), Karen Witting (Ready Computing), Ken Meyer (IBM), Tarik Idris (ICW), Joe Lamy (SSA, Aegis), Bill Majurski (NIST), Elliott Lavy (Harris), Lynn Felhofer

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Doc Sharing, Vol 3 CPs:

  • Assigned CPs
    • 1019-02 - Clarify Repository action required on duplicate uniqueId (Elliot) - discussed, updated, and version -03 is Completed and read for future ballot 45
    • 720-04 - Clarify Replacement for addendum and transformation docs (Ken) - during discussion, we decided that the scope of this CP will be corrections to the existing diagrams. There will be a separate, new CP to clarify specifications for use cases that are currently not addressed in the TF (combinations of replace, addendum, transform). We will dedicate the Aug 31 call to that topic to try to come to consensus on expected behavior for those use cases. Ken will create a high-level outline to guide that discussion
  • Incoming CPs
    • CP-ITI-clarify-XDS-author.doc (Tarik) - discussed and accepted as CP 1069. Tarik will do additional work to scope the changes and will bring the CP back to the group. It's possibe that this may be spun-off into a work item.

(2) Next in CPs

  • Tarik will chair next week's call; Lynn will compile the agenda and start the call.
  • CP Ballot 44 is out. Votes/Comments due 11-Sep.

Aug 10, 2017

Attendees: Ken Meyer (IBM Watson), John Moehrke (By Light), Joe Lamy (SSA/Aegis), Karen Witting (Ready Computing), Tarik Idris (ICW), Rob Horn (Agfa), Lynn Felhofer

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Assigned CPs for review ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • Doc Sharing, Vol 3 CPs:
    • 995-02 - Align entryUUID descriptions (Tarik) - reviewed and Completed; ready for Ballot 44
    • 977-01 - datatype clarification for phone number (Rob) - reviewed, updated, and Completed; ready for Ballot 44
  • Other
    • 795-01 - Fix ITI-44 text to match the schema - reviewed and Completed; ready for Ballot 44

(2) Review Incoming CPs ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/0_Incoming/

  • CP-ITI-CXiExampleReferral.doc - accepted as Completed CP 1065; ready for Ballot 44
  • CP-ITI-XUA-Subject-ID-XSPA.doc - accepted as Completed CP 1066; ready for Ballot 44
  • CP-ITI-FixITI-54auditMsg.docx - accepted as Completed CP 1067; ready for Ballot 44
  • CP-ITI-FixITI-86auditMsg.docx - accepted as Completed CP 1068; ready for Ballot 44
  • CP-ITI-FixOutOfDateTFreference.docx - reviewed & rejected as a duplicate. Already fixed in CP1026 which will be in Ballot 44.

(3) Next in CPs

  • CP Ballot 44 will come out in the coming days w/ completed CPs.
  • We continue Assigned/Iincoming review next Thurs
  • Need to identify bundle-focused calls for the rest of 2017; Lynn will use google doc to poll ITI Tech members for availability in coming months.

Aug 3, 2017

Attendees: Ben Levy (Corepoint), Joe Lamy (Aegis/SSA), John Moehrke (By Light), Karen Witting (Ready Computing), Ken Meyer (IBM/Merge), Rob Horn (Agfa), Tarik Idris (ICW), Elliot Silver (Change HC), Charles (GE), Lynn Felhofer

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Ballot 43 comment resolution

(2) Next in CPs

  • We resume regular CP review next Thurs, Aug 10
  • CPs completed as of Aug 10 will go into Ballot 44
  • Bundle focus for near-term CP calls

July 17-21 F2F

Outcomes and notes for the TF maintenance topics during the ITI Technical Committee face-to-face are here.

Original maintenance agenda topics follows below

See the face-to-face agenda for times devoted to Maintenance-related topics, and for call in details: July ITI F2F wiki page.

Maintenance topics we will cover, as time allows, are listed below. This will likely be modified during the week. They are more-or-less in priority order.

Quick links

(1) CPs that just need review - Assigned CPs with changes ready for the committee to confirm/tweak.

  • XDS-Vol3 bundle
    • 977-00 - datatype clarification for phone number (Rob)
    • 994-00 - Increase XDS.b DocumentEntry.uniqueId maximum length (Nick Radov) -- updated and now Completed are ready for future ballot
    • 1050-00 - Appendix B Cleanup (Elliott L) -- reviewed and scope was expanded; remains Assigned
    • 976-01 - Fix Folder.codeList example (Tarik) -- reviewed and now Completed and ready for future ballot 44
    • 917-00 - Recommend using OIDs for codingScheme (Rob) -- reviewed, updated, and now Completed and ready for future ballot 44
    • 925-02 - Clarify UTC offset within DTM datatype (Nader) - discussed; will be Cancelled
  • Security bundle
    • 1013-01 - Clarify UDP requirements in ITI-20 (again) (Rob)
  • Security-Audit bundle
    • 920-02 - Restore IHE Extensions in ITI-20 (Rob)
    • 938-01 - Audit messages for ITI-30 and 31 (Lynn)
  • HL7v3 bundle
    • 795-00 - Fix to match ITI-44 TF text to the schema
  • editorial bundle
    • 1022-00 - Specification of ITI-30 as optional transaction in PIX is incomplete (Lynn)

(2) Low-hanging fruit - CPs that could be finished with a bit of heads-down attention by editor, followed by committee confirmation

Those known to be attending the F2F are listed below with CPs that seem close to completion. Feel free to choose a different CP to work on.

  • Charles
    • 866-00 - Wrong Transaction Labels in XCDR Figure
  • Rob
    • 1047-00 - Remove mandatory User Authentication from ITI-19
    • 968-02 - Fix optionality for AlternativeUserId field in SeR audit messages ( - refer to Completed CP 1058-02 'ATNA Audit Message Optionality Definitions'
  • John
    • 736-00 - clarification of BPPC type code
    • 709-03 - Accounting of Disclosures audit message
  • Mauro
    • 915-00 - Clarify definition of COMPLETED task status in XDW
    • 1054-00 - XDW: Datatype fix and update diagram (Mauro or Gregorio)
  • Sylvie
    • 1052-00 - Corrections to Document Sharing Cardinality in Diagrams (review and make a recommendation: update the diagrams, or remove cardinality)
  • Ben
    • 1049-00 - Distinction between PIX vs PDQ should be made more clear
  • Elliot S
    • co-chair's choice
  • Joe
  • Luke
  • Eric
    • Any HPD: 766 or 921
  • Chris
  • Lynn
    • 541-03 - Remove configurable fallback for empty PID-3.4

(3) CPs that will benefit from broad committee input to provide direction

  • 1060-00 - Need Null Flavor for FormatCode
  • others to be brought forward...

(4) Tackle the 'optionality' monster Committee discussion to examine current state (optionality defined many, many place) and decide on a path forward.

  • Considerations:
    • CP 1059 - Refine optionality definitions in FHIR Appx Z (assigned to Elliot S)
    • IHE Common Appendix E (been there since 2014; largely unknown) See http://ihe.net/TF_Intro_Appendices.aspx
      • E.2 Profiling DICOM
      • E.3 HL7 Message Profiling Conventions
      • E.3.1 HL7 Message Profiling Conventions
      • E.4 (CDA) Optionality Constraints
    • ITI TF-2x: Appendix C - HL7 profiling conventions
    • ITI TF-3: Table 4.2.1-2 Sending Actor Metadata Attribute Optionality Code Definitions
    • ITI TF-3: Table 4.3.2.1-2 Responding Actor Metadata Attribute Optionality Code Definitions
    • ITI TF-3: 5.4.3 Optionality Definitions for XDW
    • ITI TI Supp Appx Z.20 Profiling conventions for constraints on FHIR
  • ITI TF-4: 4.1 Optionality for French extensions
    • Others in ITI documents..??
    • Definitions in underlying standards...
    • In other domains (not exhaustive list)
      • RAD TF-2:2.2 DICOM Usage Conventions
      • RAD TF-2:2.3 HL7 profiling conventions
      • CARD (and EYECARE) TF-2: 2.2 DICOM Usage conventions
      • CARD TF-2:2.3 HL7 profiling conventions
    • Others??

(5) Soliciting suggestions to the CP process for the coming year

  • ideas...???
  • some progress on move to Jira for tracking
  • create bundle-specific call schedule for fall??

(6) CPs that need a new owner

  • HL7v2 bundle
    • 211 - PIX/PAM integration
    • 307 - PDQ Continuation Protocol in One Socket or Multiple Sockets
    • 718 - Namespace ID required even if ISO OID set
  • Security bundle
    • 897 - Clarify that rqmts in ITI-19 provide a baseline set, and are not mandated at all deployments
  • XDS-Vol3 bundle
    • 817 - Add the Reference ID List slot to the Submission Set metadata

July 13, 2017

Attendees: Elliott Lavy (Harris), Elliot Silver (Change HC), Gregorio Canal (Arsenàl.IT), Joe Lamy (SSA/Aegis), Karen Witting (Ready Computing), Ken Meyer (Merge/IBM), Rob Horn (Agfa), Tarik Idris (ICW), Lynn Felhofer

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Review Incoming CPs ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/0_Incoming/

  • CP-ITI-NullFormatCode.doc - accepted as CP 1060 and assigned to John (for now). Added to the list of CPs for broader discussion during the F2F to get a consensus on the direction for the change. Tarik suggested that this be considered after the IHE-E metadata discussion.
  • CP-ITI-KM-ITI-18_Correct_Availability_Status.doc - reviewed & accepted as Completed CP 1061; ready for future ballot 44.
  • CP-ITI-ELS-Intro-schedule.doc -
  • CP-ITI-LF-AppxG-RemoveOutOfDateText.doc - reviewed & accepted as Completed CP 1063; ready for future ballot 44.

(2) Assigned CPs ready for discussion ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • CP-ITI-985 - Relationship Association Target in SubmissionSet (Elliott L)
  • CP-ITI-1059-00 - Refine optionality definitions in FHIR Appendix Z - discussion deferred to the larger 'Optionality' discussion targeted for the F2F next week

(3) Seeking input on use of F2F time for TF maintenance

  • A draft list of topics for the ITI TC face-to-face is here. Suggestions welcome.

July 6, 2017

Time: 10:00-11:00am CDT

Attendees: Dmytro Rud (OeHF), Elliott Lavy (Harris/QuadraMed), Elliot Silver (McKesson), Gregorio Canal (Arsenal.IT), Karen Witting (Ready Computing), Ken Meyer (Merge/IBM), Tarik Idris (ICW), Lynn Felhofer

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Review Incoming CPs ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/0_Incoming/

  • CP-ITI-TI-fix-coded-values-in-XDS-author.doc - accepted as CP 1057. Reviewed, updated and approved as Completed for future ballot 44.
  • CP-ITI-NullFormatCode.doc - deferred discussion of this one until John M is on the call. Remains in Incoming.
  • the 'optionality' family in Incoming:
    • CP-ITI-AppxZoptionalityDefinitions.doc - accepted and assigned to Elliot Silver as CP 1059. The scope of this CP will remain updates to Appendix Z. ie this CP will not try to normalize these definitions with other similar ones elsewhere in the TF. We kick that can down the road a bit. We will continue discussion on this one when Elliot and John are one the call; or at the F2F.
    • CP-ITI-ELS-OptionalityTable.doc -reviewed and updated. Elliot S will do a final update to align contents with recently-approved DICOM CP, then this CP 1058 is approved as Completed for future ballot 44.
    • CP-ITI-AuditMsgoptionalityDefinitions.doc

(2) Assigned CPs ready for discussion ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • 1026-04 - Review ITI-18 for out of date section references and XDS.a orphans (Elliott L) - reviewed and updated. Version -05 approved as Completed for future ballot 44.

(3) Next in CPs

  • We will have a regular CP call next Thurs Apr 13 at 10am CDT
  • The week following is the ITI Tech face-to-face. The focus for TF maintenance sessions is TBD.

June 29, 2017

Attendees: Elliot Silver (Change HC), John Moehrke (By Light), Karen Witting (Ready Computing), Ken Meyer (Merge/IBM), Tarik Idris (ICW), Elliott Lavy (Harris/QuadraMed), Lynn Felhofer

--> ITI CP Tracking Spreadsheet is here.

(1) Assigned CPs ready for discussion ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/1_Assigned/

  • 985-08 - Relationship Association Target in SubmissionSet (Elliott L) -- this CP was extensively reviewed and updated a bit. Version -09 is uploaded to the Assigned directory. A bit more discussion needed in order to finalize this one.
  • Out of time for this one; deferred until next week's call:
    • 1026-04 - Review ITI-18 for out of date section references and XDS.a orphans (Elliott L)

(2) Review Incoming CPs ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance/CPs/0_Incoming/

  • Out of time to discuss these; deferred to next week's call:
    • CP-ITI-NullFormatCode.doc
    • CP-ITI-AppxZoptionalityDefinitions.doc
    • CP-ITI-ELS-ATNA-Optionality-table.doc
    • CP-ITI-AuditMsgoptionalityDefinitions.doc

(3) Next in CPs

  • Ballot 43 will be sent out after this call with the 9+ Completed CPs. Comments due Aug 1.
  • Next regular CP call is Thu July 6, 10-11am CDT
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