ITI CPs 2014-01-16
ITI domain CPs for 2013-2014 are managed here: http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=ITI_Change_Proposals_2014
This page contains the agenda and minutes for the Jan 16, 2014 meeting.
Jan -16-2014
9-11am Central US
Agenda
(0) Current status spreadsheet: dated 2013-12-19 is here: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/Status/
(1) Assigned CPs ready for review: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/1_Assigned/
- CP-ITI-655-04 - (Marek / Mark S) Modify field predicate logic for conditional fields PID-29, 30 Patient Death of IHE PAM (discussion deferred from 12/16 call)
- CP-ITI-699-00 - (Rob) Fix RFC-3881 Instructions (discussion deferred from 12/16 call)
- CP-ITI-711-03 - (Karen) - Add limitedMetadata attribute to optionality table
- CP-ITI-723-01 - (Karen) - Update Vol 3 content of on-demand & Metadata Update
- IHE_ITI_Suppl_XDS_Metadata_Update_Rev1.3_TI_2013-10-25-notesfor723.doc – (Karen) - notes for discussion about metadata update
- CP-ITI-615-02 - (Walco) DSUB Remove SubscriptionId from all transactions
- CP-ITI-630-02 - (Walco) XTN data type should be more specific
(2) Incoming CP review: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/0_Incoming/
- CP-ITI-ES-Add referenceId attribute optionality.doc -- Karen will include this change in CP-ITI-711
- CP-ITI-ES-Clarify query attribute optionality-RESUBMITTED.doc
- bill-vol1-doc-src.doc
- bill-vol1-folders.doc
- CP-ITI-formatCode-doc
- CP-ITI-GL-DeprecateSignByReplacement.doc
(3) Old CPs - Motion to cancel these assigned CPs (deferred from 12/19 call)
- CP-ITI-496 (John M) - ATNA secure communications option
- I am unsure that this is still wanted. It is also a very radical change that would affect “IHE Integration Statements”, be even worse for Gazelle. Given that this is many years old. I think it might be best to cancel it and see if it comes back up again. Reality is that today this is happening through non-stated means. Not a great idea, but reality. I think a solution that would be more accepted would be to write a new profile that was just the audit logging. I would rather see that submitted as a profile proposal. It might be one as small as CT. But it would likely get to what people want (audit without mandatory secure-communications). – Motion to cancel
- CP-ITI-514 (John M) - Correct conflict in node authentication requirements
- I think we solved this a long time ago with other broad ATNA rewrites. I certainly don’t think I could track down the meaning of the comments in the CP document. – Motion to cancel
- CP-ITI-581 (John M) - Correct DSUB audit messages
- this seems to want us to take the current ITI-18 audit log messages and make them DSUB. But DSUB is not the same thing as ITI-18. I think the current DSUB audit messages are appropriate, and would not agree with the CP. Motion to cancel.
- CP-ITI-712-06 (Karen) - Clarify "optional" metadata on submission
- documenting the actions of submission responding actors should be done with the transactions - Motion to cancel
- CP-ITI-689 - (Walco)
- is now covered by the schema in DICOM part 15 (PurposeOfUse has a defined place and multiplicity) - Motion to cancel
(4) Coming next...
- Thu Feb 6 - CP call
- Fri Feb 7 - Ballot #20 comments due
- Thu Feb 20 - CP call - primary agenda is to review ballot comments
Minutes
Attendees: John M, Karen, Marek V, Mark S, Walco, Elliott L, Elliot S, Dave P, Erik P, Gila, Lynn
(0) Status spreadsheet, updated based on this call: dated 2014-01-16 is here: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/Status/
(1) Assigned CPs reviewed: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/1_Assigned/
- CP-ITI-711-03 - (Karen) - Add limitedMetadata attribute to optionality table
- Karen provided an overview and discussion with John Moehrke surrounding overview occurred - John agreed to withdraw any concerns at this time
- Accepted for Ballot 21
- CP-ITI-655-04 - (Marek / Mark S) Modify field predicate logic for conditional fields PID-29, 30 Patient Death of IHE PAM (discussion deferred from 12/16 call)-
- Marek reviewed PID changes for Patient Death and Time and Patient Death Indicator
- Elliot S asked clarifying questions on the PID changes to understand how PID-29 and PID-30 would be populated - Elliot S also requested clarification on use of the word "optional" in association with termination of patient encounter
- Guidance may be needed for how to populate PID-29 and PID-30 and Lynn suggested we do an offline discussion
- Current proposed language is PID-29 SHALL not be populated in all other cases besides termination of the patient encounter by patient's death
- Accepted for Ballot 21 (the proposed language will be reformulated in another change proposal)
- CP-ITI-699-00 - (Rob) Fix RFC-3881 Instructions (discussion deferred to future call)
- Rob requested to defer discussion due to scope of work to the next CP call
- CP-ITI-723-01 - (Karen) - Update Vol 3 content of on-demand & Metadata Update
- Karen provided an overview on the proposal and the changes that were made - deleting and adding sections to the supplement, including actor/transaction pairs
- Updates to XDSDocumentTypesEntry section were suggested - additional updates for stable and on-demand document entry were requested
- Lynn requested that Karen include ODD document markup due to the large number of sections that were deleted and added
- IHE_ITI_Suppl_XDS_Metadata_Update_Rev1.3_TI_2013-10-25-notesfor723.doc – (Karen) - notes for discussion about metadata update - the scope of the changes to MU will be broken out of this CP; new CP-ITI-740 assigned to Karen will handle MU updates; 723 is for the ODD supplement
- Discussion of Table 4.12 in IHE Technical Framework - noted discrepancies in the table and Karen expressed concern she could not resolve all the technical aspects to make the changes
- 723 is still being worked on by Karen as a CP - a separate CP number will be sent to Karen by Lynn for metadata
- Lynn suggested we do a small workgroup to resolve questions on the metadata update section - recommended time for the workgroup will be in early February to Connectathon
- CP-ITI-615-02 - (Walco) DSUB remove SubscriptionID from all transactions
- Accepted for Ballot 21
- CP-ITI-630-02 - (Walco) XTN data type should be more specific
- Walco reviewed changes - Rob reviewed the tables that were updated in the CP to compare them to HL7 and Karen added comments surrounding the rationale for the change
- will remain assigned
(2)Old CPs - proposal to move to cancelled status
- CP-ITI-496 (John M) - ATNA secure communications option
- Discussion deferred as John dropped off
- CP-ITI-514 (John M) - Correct conflict in node authentication requirements
- Discussion deferred as John dropped off
- CP-ITI-581 (John M) - Correct DSUB audit messages
- Discussion deferred as John dropped off
- CP-ITI-712-06 (Karen) - Clarify "optional" metadata on submission
- Motion to cancel was brought up by Lynn and Karen seconds for removal due to CP 711 - Elliot concurred
- CP-ITI-689 - (Walco)
- Motion to cancel was brought up by Walco and seconded by Rob Horn - Lynn noted status of CP changed to cancelled
(3) Incoming CP review: ftp://ftp.ihe.net/IT_Infrastructure/TF_Maintenance-2014/CPs/0_Incoming/
- CP-ITI-ES-Add referenceId attribute optionality.doc
- Karen suggested this be merged with CP 711 due to the fact this is the query/response - Karen will take this on as a to-do and merge the incoming and CP 711-04
- CP-ITI-ES-Clarify query attribute optionality-RESUBMITTED.doc
- Discussion of the 2 cases in the incoming CP with Karen - the proposed resolution was to withdraw this CP again
- bill-vol1-doc-src.doc
- Discussion deferred as Bill was not on the phone
- bill-vol1-folders.doc
- Discussion deferred as Bill was not on the phone
- CP-ITI-formatCode-doc
- Accepted - assign CP number 739 to John; discussion deferred as John was not on the phone
- CP-ITI-GL-DeprecateSignByReplacement.doc
- Accepted - assign CP number 738 to Rob; further discussion - Rob expressed initial objections
(4) Upcoming Agenda Items
- Bill Majurski incoming CPs that were deferred
- John Moehrke move to cancel CPs that were deferred
- Rob Horn - CP-ITI-699
- Karen noted that additional discussion was needed on the HPD-related CPs (approved by HPD Implementors list)
- Karen will not be available on next call or F2F but a time will be determined to ensure Eric and Karen will be in attendance