IHE Domain Coordination Committee 2008-03-28 HL7 Versioning Work Group Teleconference Minutes

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Participants

Yongjian Bao John Donnelly Floyd Eisenberg Lynn Felhofer Cynthia Levy Steve Moore Kevin O'Donnell Vassil Peytchev Paul Seifert Karen Witting


Minutes

- 1998: Radiology defines scheduled workflow based on HL7 2.3.1--then current

  • Patient Management and Order Management are the primary HL7 components used
  • Pieces reused by RO, Eye Care, Lab, and Cardio
  • Radiology polled vendors about moving to 2.5 and found that there was no support for moving there with current product base

- 2002: ITI defines PAM to address ADT feeds for registration messages based on HL7 2.5

  • 2.5 explicitly disallows some PID segments defined in 2.3.1
  • Non-radiology vendors do not usually claim conformance to a specific version of HL7; mix and match segments as needed
  • HL7 2.4 introduced the concept of message profiles; includes messaging workbench toolkit

- Should all domains reissue their order and patient management issues using HL7 message profiles and workbench?

  • Would this invalidate currently compliants systems? No change in implementation semantics
  • Make upgrade paths based on profiles rather than HL7 versions

- Is it possible to make a simple CP to "unlock" the version number segment?

  • If a radiology system receives a v. 2.5 message it should be able to parse the elements it needs and ignore any superfluous elements
  • CP to unlock version number in patient mgt and order mgt messages in Radiology and derivative domains
  • Start a page of HL7 versioning procedures across domains--ITI and radiology have appendixes that will provide some useful source material
  • Should radiology go back and revise existing profiles?

- Conflicting requirements and prohibitions between domains

  • Conflicting segments should be in different messages, but can still cause failures
  • An example of the problem: PID fields defined in 2.3.1 are replaced in PAM by a repeating PID segment in v. 2.5
  • 2.3.1 is no longer an ANSI standard; it was not resubmitted to ANSI for reapproval
  • In profile writers guideline: avoid prohibiting fields; instead?

- Establish standards-based review cmtes: eg, HL7 Review

  • Make issue of resolving conflicts between PAM and SWF the initial issue of HL7 cross-domain coordination

- Use HL7 Profile Mechanism and Messaging Workbench

  • An issue to be addressed on the HL7 Cookbook page
  • Start Wiki stub forking off of Process page; drop in key items from today's discussion

- Mapping to inappropriate fields and overloading inappropriately

  • Radiology SWF used fields inappropriately because it was using the best solutions available
  • Need to determine whether overloading causes interoperability problems
  • Internal issue for Radiology