EduCom Minutes 2018-09-17

Meeting details

Monday, 17th September 2018, 7:30 - 8:30 CT

Welcome

• Participants

• Jürgen Brandstätter
• Stefan Sauermann
• Alexander Ihls
• Elliot Sloane
• John Moehrke
• Rene Spronk
• Vladimir Quintero
• Oren Pollak (as guest)
• Kinson Ho (as guest)

• Review and Approve Agenda

• Approved

Introduction into IHE Certified Professional

• Current status

• Slide about the stakeholder structure GASQ/FHTW/IHE Services/Education Committee/IHE International has been presented

• Discussion:

• Elliot: Issue with "Education Committee", this might be not according to ISO 17025. The standard requires the strict separation of the "Exam related committee" from e.g. the training. Recommendation: Rename the committee. Finally the acting persons must be distinct. Every particating person has to decide, if he/she wants to be part of "exams" or "training"
• Jürgen: This group is dedicated exam only. There might be to less persons to divide, but compliance with the standard is important. We have to check whether it's enough to form a distinct sub-committee within the current Education Committee OR if we need to fully separate and limit the scope of this committee to exams only.
• Action item: Clarify this question until next meeting (Stefan, Werner)

• After that: decision according to outcome of clarification (rename or forming a sub-committee)

• see "IHE Certified Professional Foundation Level" (ICP Foundation Level)
• see summaries and references to material on current work and history.

• Discussion on the Business Outcomes and Learning Outcomes, different amendments have been named

• Decision: Business Outcomes and Learning Objectives shall be reviewed/commented/amended by the committee until next meeting
• Action item: Create a Google-Working Document and send out to the group for review/commenting/amending (Stefan)

• Number of questions: 50 for the exan, 50 in the pool in the beginning, up to 500-1000 later, which then can be published in advance

• Alexander: We should have at least 100 questions from the beginning on. Common agreement to that.
• Jürgen: How do we share exam questions for review? They should not be public at the FTP, because we have too few yet to give out examples

• Decision: Exam questions will not be shared on the FTP
• Action item: Work-out a process for secret review by the group (Stefan)

• Schedule and Milestone dates
  • to be discussed:
    • Vote on development processes: Early October 2018
    • Vote on exam structure and all processes: End October 2018
    • Trial exams within the group, to generate feedback: November 2018
    • Vote on learning objectives and exam: End November 2018
    • Vote on Syllabus: Mid January 2019

• Proposal accepted, identified as ambitious, we will try our best to hold the milestones

Certification Scheme

• Kick-Off: Creation of syllabus and exam materials, processes, certification mark, etc.

• Review first draft of IHE Education release process
• see ISTQB certified software testers as an example of where this is heading
• Skipped due to time

Any other business

• None

Next Meeting

• Biweekly as published on the wiki (every second Tuesday, 4-5pm Vienna time, starting with Oct 2nd)

• Decision: Approved with change that it will be held one hour later: 5-6pm Vienna time

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