Difference between revisions of "EduCom Minutes 2019-05-03"
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
(Created page with "= Agenda = == Welcome == * Participants :* Jürgen Brandstätter :* Alexander Ihls :* Jamie Dulkowski * Review and Approve Agenda :* Approved == Exam status update == * Re...") |
|||
(6 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown) | |||
Line 5: | Line 5: | ||
:* Jürgen Brandstätter | :* Jürgen Brandstätter | ||
:* Alexander Ihls | :* Alexander Ihls | ||
+ | :* Charles Parisot | ||
+ | :* Werner Henschelchen | ||
:* Jamie Dulkowski | :* Jamie Dulkowski | ||
Line 17: | Line 19: | ||
:::* Registration for the exam | :::* Registration for the exam | ||
::::* Process is complex and has gaps, several different websites (GASQ, ProctorU, Exam site) involved | ::::* Process is complex and has gaps, several different websites (GASQ, ProctorU, Exam site) involved | ||
+ | ::::* Since price is given as "netto" price (which cannot be changed), the registration process ends up with more money to be paid after taxes are applied -> this can be received as a bad surprise | ||
+ | :::::* '''Action item: Wording on ihe.net website and in registratino process shall be enhanced, so that there is no "bad surprise" effect''' | ||
:::* Exam itself | :::* Exam itself | ||
::::* Timing: 30min for Charles out of 1 hour -> seems to be ok | ::::* Timing: 30min for Charles out of 1 hour -> seems to be ok | ||
Line 37: | Line 41: | ||
* Feedback loop | * Feedback loop | ||
:* A feedback look is required to debug the exam | :* A feedback look is required to debug the exam | ||
− | :* | + | :* Certain experts could be asked for sitting the exam and give feedback |
+ | ::* They shall be given instructions, how to provide the feedback | ||
+ | :* '''Action item: Education Committee shall search and ask experts (Jürgen)''' | ||
== Logo == | == Logo == | ||
− | * [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Logo | + | * General FTP folder: [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Logo Logo] |
− | * Formal decision on logo | + | * Formal decision on logo colors: [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Logo/Drafts/IHE%20CPP%20logo%20colors.png Logo colors] |
− | : | ||
:* '''Decision: Based on the offline voting between blue and red, the final logo is the "blue" one''' | :* '''Decision: Based on the offline voting between blue and red, the final logo is the "blue" one''' | ||
:* '''Action item: Finalize logo (web version, print version, etc.) (Chris)''' | :* '''Action item: Finalize logo (web version, print version, etc.) (Chris)''' | ||
+ | ::* including putting logo on website and transfer logo to Werner for finalization of certificate | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | == Certificate == | ||
+ | * General FTP folder: [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Certificates Certificates] | ||
+ | * [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Certificates/IHE%20Certified%20Professional/Drafts/IHE%20Sample%20Cert.pdf First draft version of certifiate] | ||
+ | :* Logo and feedback on Exam certificate has been/will be provided to Werner | ||
+ | * '''Action item: Provide second version of certificate based on logo and input given so far (Werner)''' | ||
== Processes Document == | == Processes Document == | ||
− | * [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Processes | + | * General FTP folder: [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Processes Processes] |
:* Status and review of additions | :* Status and review of additions | ||
::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Processes/Draft/IHE_ICP_Processes_V00.18_jb2.docx Version 0.18_jb] | ::* [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Processes/Draft/IHE_ICP_Processes_V00.18_jb2.docx Version 0.18_jb] | ||
+ | :* Clarification on the question: Who is the highest authority on the certificate? | ||
+ | ::* Option 1: GASQ (or any equivalent exam provider) is the highest authority for issuing certificates, which are all equivalent according the the agreed scheme of IHE | ||
+ | ::* Option 2: IHE is the highest authority for issuing certificates, and the exam providers are "just" the fulfillers and delivery of the certificate to the person | ||
+ | :* Answer: According the ISO Standards it's option 1 | ||
+ | ::* If you have an issue with your current exam, the exam provider is responsible for all issues (but acting on behalf of IHE) | ||
+ | :::* That's why the certificate is branded with the exam provider | ||
+ | ::* Even includes that in case of re-certification at another exam provider instead of the first one, this is seamless possible and does not break the "certified since ..." chain | ||
+ | * Most recent version: [ftp://ftp.ihe.net/EducationCommittee/yr01_2018-2019/Processes/Draft/IHE_ICP_Processes_V00.18_jb3.docx Version 0.18_JB3] | ||
+ | :* '''Action item: Provide next version of process document based on comments given (Werner)''' | ||
Line 59: | Line 81: | ||
:* University of Applied Sciences, Austria | :* University of Applied Sciences, Austria | ||
:* ZTG, Germany | :* ZTG, Germany | ||
+ | * No action possible, because waiting for process to be finished | ||
== Any other business == | == Any other business == | ||
+ | * None | ||
== Next call == | == Next call == | ||
− | * | + | * Thursday, May 16, 8am - 9am CT (15:00 - 16:00 Vienna time) |
Latest revision as of 07:26, 16 May 2019
Agenda
Welcome
- Participants
- Jürgen Brandstätter
- Alexander Ihls
- Charles Parisot
- Werner Henschelchen
- Jamie Dulkowski
- Review and Approve Agenda
- Approved
Exam status update
- Report on operation, # of exam takers, issues, etc. (Jürgen, Werner)
- So far one exam passed: Charles Parisot is the first :) (consent given for publication in these minutes)
- Charles's feedback:
- Registration for the exam
- Process is complex and has gaps, several different websites (GASQ, ProctorU, Exam site) involved
- Since price is given as "netto" price (which cannot be changed), the registration process ends up with more money to be paid after taxes are applied -> this can be received as a bad surprise
- Action item: Wording on ihe.net website and in registratino process shall be enhanced, so that there is no "bad surprise" effect
- Exam itself
- Timing: 30min for Charles out of 1 hour -> seems to be ok
- Out of 40 questions:
- 14 questions needed deeper analysis
- Question/answers were unclear, ambiguous or mulitple answers could work or answers were not clear
- Comments were given in the exam as comments
- Only 4 out of the 5 sections of the Syllabus were covered by the exam questions
- Alexander: Questions for all sections are available, must be a randomizing or structuring issue in the exam
- Issue resolution
- Issue received about "Pin", which is asked, but not given. Reason was bad wording in GASQ registration email, reported to be fixed now
- Fixed
- Issue not fixed yet: There are things to do on the GASQ website, which have to be done first (registering and paying) in order to do the exam -> instructions are not complete
- Action item: GASQ to review the instructions by following the instructions (starting from the IHE website) and remove all gaps (Werner)
- Refer to Charles's emails from April 30, 23:25 and the ones resent on May 3rd, 15:25 and May 3rd, 15:28
- Feedback given on exam (see above)
- Action item: Process feedback on exam (Werner, Exam question group)
- Feedback loop
- A feedback look is required to debug the exam
- Certain experts could be asked for sitting the exam and give feedback
- They shall be given instructions, how to provide the feedback
- Action item: Education Committee shall search and ask experts (Jürgen)
Logo
- General FTP folder: Logo
- Formal decision on logo colors: Logo colors
- Decision: Based on the offline voting between blue and red, the final logo is the "blue" one
- Action item: Finalize logo (web version, print version, etc.) (Chris)
- including putting logo on website and transfer logo to Werner for finalization of certificate
Certificate
- General FTP folder: Certificates
- First draft version of certifiate
- Logo and feedback on Exam certificate has been/will be provided to Werner
- Action item: Provide second version of certificate based on logo and input given so far (Werner)
Processes Document
- General FTP folder: Processes
- Status and review of additions
- Clarification on the question: Who is the highest authority on the certificate?
- Option 1: GASQ (or any equivalent exam provider) is the highest authority for issuing certificates, which are all equivalent according the the agreed scheme of IHE
- Option 2: IHE is the highest authority for issuing certificates, and the exam providers are "just" the fulfillers and delivery of the certificate to the person
- Answer: According the ISO Standards it's option 1
- If you have an issue with your current exam, the exam provider is responsible for all issues (but acting on behalf of IHE)
- That's why the certificate is branded with the exam provider
- Even includes that in case of re-certification at another exam provider instead of the first one, this is seamless possible and does not break the "certified since ..." chain
- Most recent version: Version 0.18_JB3
- Action item: Provide next version of process document based on comments given (Werner)
Accreditation of training providers
- Status and next steps
- Interested:
- University of Applied Sciences, Austria
- ZTG, Germany
- No action possible, because waiting for process to be finished
Any other business
- None
Next call
- Thursday, May 16, 8am - 9am CT (15:00 - 16:00 Vienna time)